GratefulforGrace, I used to work for the Police Dept. and I know they do take kidnappings, abusive situations VERY seriously so they will get that search warrant if you do decide to inform them. And its best to go in person to the Police Dept. vs. calling 911 over the phone line. Can you tell if the occupiers are young, middle age … ? If they are banging on the walls, etc. I can just imagine what they are destroying. Duplexes, condos, townhouses have strict guidelines and suppose to have a firewall from basement all the way up to the attic (with either cement or brick) that separates the units … plus it cuts down on the noise. Praying for your protection and deliverance …. just came back to say that when my husband came up our walk to our "front" door, the "normal" neighbor family that our main door faces their door and 2 windows face their 2, one of them went into one of the rooms with a window, flipped on a light and talked and my hubby said it was like he was standing right next to him- he could hear him like he was having a conversation with him...so, the other house on the other side who has a "front" (it's on the side) door & 2 windows right across from our scary other half neighbors, so they must hear all the yelling very very clearly and can probably tell more of what is going on than we can- they should be able to tell exactly what is being said because i feel like i almost can a couple times...my husband thinks it's 2 women and children living there (in the other house- not the scary one)...i almost went over there today becuz the scary house garage door was open again with no cars, but I didn't have a peace from God about it and thankful I didn't becuz i could hear that the scary one came home soon after and they may've seen me and heard anything i would've been saying cuz i'd have been standing right across from their door (although they prob went in thru garage)...see, i wasn't gonna come ramble more, but i wanted to say God helped me through encouragement listening to Charles Stanley about God having a plan for us individually no matter what stage of life we are in and surrendering fully to Him...I know He is doing good in us and will through us in the ways He knows is best...I prayed in our Savior's Name about the spiritual realm under our own roof which includes our side and theirs- for God to send demons away not to return...I think we need to talk w/ that other house and maybe make 2 separate police calls at some point...but, Geri- we did go to the police station- and were just told it sounds like domestic situation and we can call 911 but that they will not bust open the door or anything like that (and she has to want to leave or something like that)...btw there is no basement & these are brand new and probably not made like good old buildings, but if the wall between us isn't even that thin, than it must be extremely loud when there's distressed lady crying out from the other side of the house away from our wall- like this evening briefly- where the windows face the other house's windows...and i hubby says he thinks they may be in their 20s...i'm sorry y'all, i really wasn't going to do all these details- wasn't even gonna get back on here, but hubby had a phone call, so jumped on...feel like i'm hogging attention though & giving back nothing, and i don't like that...please all just keep praying - God restored me today after I felt like i was going to fall apart and never be ok again- He helped me focus on Him and He chased away the constant fear and inability to even really function....also, just going to add how surprised i am but that i've seen many places online where help organizations are saying to those who want to help that we aren't to "fix" or "rescue"- which of course is our instinct to want to...and we are to respect the abused's choice to stay in the situation (& only help them make a safety plan if they want to)...these aren't Christian organizations though...hubby listened today to James Dobson & I just started to about a woman who'd been abused growing up and how redeemed and beautiful her life is now in Christ...Godly counsel can be very different than worldly wisdom...i may call a Christian family services place for info/guidance...pray God won't let us act on our own emotions or lean on our own understanding...thankful hubby will be home all day saturday & sunday...monday we have to leave daughter here though while we go to his mri...again, thanks for prayers...maranatha!!! :thankyou :flyup: gratefulforgrace, while this forum is primarily a rapture watch forum we are also a Christian family and a safe place. You needed a place to express the very difficult scenario that you are facing and we are here for you. I’m glad you chose to be detailed because it helps us understand what is going on and that could help another member in offering counsel or advice. We will continue to pray for your situation. Please let us know how it turns out. thank you, yohanan when i was outside just a little bit ago i think i heard a child crying loudly sounded like they were outside too, but there was nobody where i could see in the back, so maybe it was at their front door...i'd heard a siren before that but didn't think it was really nearby...maybe the cops came and maybe they knew a kid was there and were getting them out...i really have no idea- i feel like i'm in a nightmare and i can't process it or react...if there is a kid in that house, it's "a whole nother ball game!" i know we thought maybe a few weeks ago or something, but i'd decided it was an adult female sound only...i think the other neighbors would know by now who is in there and a lot more about what is going on...i think tomorrow i'm going to find about child protective services checking- i think they have to look into it if i call them with concerns...please pray for any child possibly there and anything that could be going on- maybe the police were there...the music stopped right after i heard that...i swear i thought i heard no, mommy, no! i was scared she's hurting her kid...it's eerily quiet now, so i pray it's that they took a child away...we were going to be foster parents before we found out how much our daughter was struggling with inside...she's got horror movies running through her thoughts and mind when in absolutely wonderfully safe and blessed surroundings all her life other than when very young her mom died of cancer, but she's always been loved and cared for...now we are sort of witnessing real terror and danger for others and us and she has seemed to after initial concerns and clearly anxious to have gone to not bothered by it or scared and just concerned that we are stressed and not feeling well and upset...hubby is exhausted from 10 hours driving & not a lot of sleep lately with all this added stress and financial concerns and is in pain often now including at night- he fell asleep on couch hour or so ago...it's very quiet- no music at all no noise...maybe the other house heard the yells clearly enough earlier - maybe she cried "help" so they knew to call cops? please do keep praying...i can't believe how horrible people are without fearing the Lord or asking for His help or realizing He knows and sees all and cares about all of our choices...please pray God will rescue all the children soon up out of this Earth- evil is getting more and more bold...i think i've smelled weird smells couple times too...we could just blow right up if they've set up a meth lab or something...all this in the nice new part of town with very high rent!! evil knows no bounds of income or location..."peace & safety" without the Lord is satan's lie...it's still quiet...that may be a good sign...faith not fear...i gotta let go...He will tell us what to do and if and when...thank y'all so much...God is loosening our grip on comfort and self centered-ness and on this world in general...we have to be willing to do the work He wants to do through us until we leave...trust and obey...gonna go read the verses from earlier today and try sleep...i love my brothers and sisters in Christ! Agree Yohanan. Grateful, praying the Lord brings those in to the situation who are well equipped for just such things, to deal with whatever the situation is. We'll keep lifting her up for the Lord to intervene and overtake on their behalf, for their salvation, and your safety. Thank you, Kolleen! the kicking walls sound started right after i wrote last time and lasted until 12:30AM but no yelling...i laid in bed shaking with my eyes open and every muscle tensed up while in a ball saying please help, God in my heart over & over...after it stopped i fell asleep for 4 hours before hubby woke up...we are going to buy a camera or 2... if i can get a little more sleep at some point today, i will probably call or go to the local family services shelter place... hubby isn't scared of this guy breaking into our home since we are well armed, but i am...he figures something will at least be done to our vehicles if cops come, but maybe we could get it on video...(we have too much stuff stored in garage to put cars in)... we just want to do what God leads us too and still aren't sure what that is so don't feel right to act yet...i really think the neighbor house across from these people must see and hear so very much that it would be undeniable...i think we will end up calling 911 at some point when we are both here...wish we'd already gone to a church and then could talk w/ pastor and maybe there would be members with good connections/info who could help us thank you all, may our good Father bless each of you for your kindness shown to us ps i recommend listening to that program my hubby heard on radio yesterday- i listened to the rest this morning- there is always hope in Christ Jesus! did an online chat with an advocate at a family crisis center in town and they asked if I'd talked with the abused about the situation, when i said i hadn't even met her they said to call 911 if i think she or we are in danger. last nite i did not do what i said i was going to- i did not read the scriptures God had lead me to the day before...i didn't spend time in His word this morning either...i have become so focused on the problem that fear was getting it's grip tighter and tighter on me...i tried multiple times to go to sleep today, but a huge tractor was right behind our house and extremely loud and no matter how incredibly exhausted i was i couldn't fall asleep...after talking with hubby on phone briefly this evening and praying specifically for sleep i was able for about an hour...i listened to C. Stanley tonite about the Holy Spirit is our Helper and then about our obligation to share the gospel...i think God is telling me that i'm too quick to lose focus on Him and fall easily into anxiety as well as that i had my priorities quickly changed from thinking of this move as an adventure with Him that would include ministering to the lost in some way and being a light in darkness and being involved in what God is doing -to concerns for our own comfort- first with house hunting turning into such disappointments and then with all of this craziness after deciding to be content of the blessing of this place...But through all of this, He is stirring a desire in me to love and serve Him by helping & loving others- there are shelters and children's home etc here that I think He may lead me to volunteer with...maybe not until after we move somewhere else, but He has sparked a passion in my heart! I'd confessed recently my lack of love for fellow Believers- (not wanting to go to church and get to know people and feeling the disappointments of never feeling like really connecting with anyone in past town we lived in - even in churches- and not feeling much for anybody the most recent times we'd gone.) I was very recently convicted by the verse in John about the love of God not being in us if we don't love each other put the fear of God in me, but then I felt like He helped me understand that it's not something we muster up and do, it's something that He does through us- to me it makes more sense that if the love of God is not in us, we won't be able to love each other with real love because it's His love- unconditional, supernatural- it's Him in us! We just have to abide in Him, take a step of obedience in trust and He will help us...anyway, He has restored my desire to share other Believers' burdens in prayer and comfort in friendship/listening/just being there with them! ...but the desire that was not there even after acknowledging the need/responsibility to really be involved with other true Christ followers, came through remembering y'all and all I have loved about the fellowship here I've had off and on for years and all of the support from "listening" people here, encouragement and prayers from genuine lovers of our Lord and His love I've experienced through y'all! I'm excited that God is with me always and I do not need to fear next steps, just be still and know that He is God, I am His and He will provide all I need to do and be anything He desires of me to do with Him for His glory, the good of others and my own good. Please continue to pray for us to know God's wisdom and have His courage to act on it in this terrible situation...i'm going to pray about reporting to child/adult protective services- their website says this: "When a report of child abuse or neglect is made, an initial assessment is made to determine if Child Protective Services should become involved. If the report meets the criteria for agency involvement, the case is investigated by a social worker or special investigator. Law enforcement may also investigate if a joint investigation is warranted. If it is determined that a child is unsafe, then a recommendation is made by Child Protective Services or law enforcement to the court regarding what action should be taken regarding the child's safety." And it has the same phone number for reporting for vulnerable adults in potential abuse- which may not apply here (i think it's more like mentally ill or elderly?) but anyway- they could tell us if they can help and just handle it all for us or if they need us to just call the police during an episode. God bless each of you who have taken time and energy to read my ramblings and say a prayer for our family and these people near us who are suffering &/or spiritually dead and destined for hell. We are to love even our enemies while still hating evil and the wicked ways of humans acting on their lusts of the flesh. That doesn't mean we ignore or stick our heads in the sand and pretend all is well...we stand firm in our faith and occupy in whatever way the Lord leads by His strength. it’s something that He does through us- I think we will be astonished at the Bema Seat Judgement at how much we are rewarded for what HE did through us! It sounds like God is using this situation to mold you into the person He wants you to be. God uses difficult circumstances to create change in us. We do not change willingly. Blessings I can see are, that whatever is going on there is being exposed, and out of that God has moved on your heart toward new ministry. He does not want any woman or child - or husband - to be in any abusive threatening destructive situation. And if this is some sort of child abuse, aren't our hearts breaking for children today for the attacks now on their very lives from so many directions! If you are led to minister to children especially in these evil days, just to help some would mean so much. They are so innocent and helpless. It is so hard to see what they are experiencing in life today, and I wonder where the parents are who should have their childrens protection as their highest priorities. Instead too often we are seeing children being handed over to such immorality. May the Lord lead you to just where He wants you to be! :rose: Agree with every prayer that has been prayed in this situation! Indeed we must remember that in the time of the flood even the children perished! Believing the Lord will accommodate the young and innocent in heaven! I still don't fully understand what the Lord sometimes allows, except to present an indictment against those who chase after evil and wickedness! Yet living in the age of grace may the Lord be gracious!!! TR
Continued prayers for your family and a resolution to this situation.
