Here is an article at fivedoves that gives some good reasons that the true Pentecost should fall this coming weekend, which is a 50 day count after we celebrated Pentecost. He gives several reasons why it is a good possible watch date for the rapture. I would think also since this is supposed to be a shemitah year. http://www.fivedoves.com/letters/jul2022/luisv717-1.htm https://www.chabad.org/library/article_cdo/aid/562077/jewish/What-Is-Shemitah.htm Here is the passage in Acts that supports the idea that Pentecost happened during the Feast of New Wine, as the apostles were mocked for being drunk on new wine when they spoke in tongues: Acts 2 New King James Version Coming of the Holy Spirit The Crowd’s Response 13 Others mocking said, “They are full of new wine.” When you put this together with Jesus saying...."do you not say four months and then the harvest? I say the fields are ripe and white already" Of course he is talking about people ready to hear the Word for salvation but also using the analogy of the wheat harvest. This time period at the end of July would be the end of four months and I believe the new moon is supposed to be on July 28th which would start the 5th month. Of course at this point, everyday is a high watch day....but if we entertain the possibility that this is a possible Pentecost date; I think it could be. If it is figured seven sabbaths plus 50 days then it would be the 24th of July......with a hopeful watchful but albeit cautious eye, come Lord Jesus :prayer-hands: Thanks for your response, Churchgal. I just thought of something else about Pentecost; the dispensation seems to change at that time. As God came down to Mt. Sinai to change the times to Law, and the Holy Spirit came to the disciples at Pentecost to change the dispensation to Grace, what if Jesus, the second Person of God came down at Pentecost in the rapture and it changed the dispensation back to law? From the article above: "Mount Sinai Mount Moriah Mount Zion According the the torah calender the 24th of Tammuz is also the 24th of July which would be the day of Pentecost if using this particular day count. Very exciting times with all that is going on in the middle east as well. Wonder if the rapture could happen on this late day Pentecost and then the attempt to attack Israel is on the 9th of Av......then the Lord steps in and lays waste of the enemy and the covenant gets worked up just in time for the fall feasts. I also thought of something else interesting. It would make sense to me if the midpoint of the trib was around Passover....scripture says that the AC will cause sacrifices to cease and there are many more sacrifices that are to happen in the spring feasts than in the fall. Soooo close, we know it is so close! :flyup: A couple more things I thought to address, the Bible verse where adding the 50 days to what we celebrate as Pentecost is here: Leviticus 23:15-16 The Feast of Weeks Second thing I found is an interesting sign in the sky that happens just after this weekend. Venus which represents Christ as the morningstar is in close proximity with the moon which represents the church (the moon has no light of her own but reflects the light of the sun). This happens in the constellation Gemini which represents the two comings of Christ, as shown in "Witness of the Stars". https://skyandtelescope.org/astronomy-news/observing-news/this-weeks-sky-at-a-glance-july-22-30/ https://www.gutenberg.org/files/49018/49018-h/49018-h.html#toc81 It could be an assumption on my part, but maybe this is a sign in the sky. If nothing happens in the next week, I guess I'll be watching Rosh Hoshanah; if nothing happens then hopefully the assumption that this is the shemitah year is incorrect, because I'd hate to wait 7 years for another one! Plus it seems we are on the verge right now of prophetic happenings. Just waiting for the Angels cry! I wonder if he can be bribed’ ? TR Speaking about Pentecost … I just saw this posted on another forum … Hosea 6:2 "After two days will he revive us: in the third day he will raise us up, and we shall live in his sight." 2023 Pentecost is my guess also. - Fair Use - I’m still clinging though we leave this year … by September at the latest to align with the Shemitah Cycle. But if not … perhaps this calculation theory above is correct? :unsure: At least time/days are flying … I don't usually add extra days onto a high watch day as some means of being dogmatic about the day; however in this case, if Nisan 1 wasn't on April 1st the way that the Jewish calendar says but instead a day or two later because of the actual sighting of the moon then this watch day could be a day or two off....and it could be a week off if it threw it after a Sabbath day.......we are close either way, just food for thought Happy birthday Enoch!!! TR
2 When the Day of Pentecost had fully come, they were all with one accord in one place. 2 And suddenly there came a sound from heaven, as of a rushing mighty wind, and it filled the whole house where they were sitting. 3 Then there appeared to them divided tongues, as of fire, and one sat upon each of them. 4 And they were all filled with the Holy Spirit and began to speak with other tongues, as the Spirit gave them utterance.
5 And there were dwelling in Jerusalem Jews, devout men, from every nation under heaven. 6 And when this sound occurred, the multitude came together, and were confused, because everyone heard them speak in his own language. 7 Then they were all amazed and marveled, saying to one another, “Look, are not all these who speak Galileans? 8 And how is it that we hear, each in our own language in which we were born? 9 Parthians and Medes and Elamites, those dwelling in Mesopotamia, Judea and Cappadocia, Pontus and Asia, 10 Phrygia and Pamphylia, Egypt and the parts of Libya adjoining Cyrene, visitors from Rome, both Jews and proselytes, 11 Cretans and Arabs—we hear them speaking in our own tongues the wonderful works of God.” 12 So they were all amazed and perplexed, saying to one another, “Whatever could this mean?”
1-The 1st was the Pentecost of Mount Sinai wherein, Moses came down with the 10 Commandments. Israel entered into the Dispensation of the Law. One is still of the interpretation that the True Count of Pentecost is corroborated by Exodus 32. Aaron declared a Festival to be on Tammuz 24, the 4th Month. It was the day Moses came down with the original 10 Commandments. This was the Day, the Israelites set-up the Golden Calf and 3000 Died. On Pentecost of Acts, the Holy Spirit came down and 3000 got Saved.
2-Then there was the Pentecost of Mount Moriah, wherein the Disciples gathered at the House of YHVH, that the Temple Precinct, as was there custom, on the 99th Day since Passover of 32 AD, they were endowed by the Indwelling of the Holy Spirit. This constituted the change in Dispensation from the Law of Moses to the Age of Grace, i.e., the Church Age, etc.
3-But then the 3rd Pentecost that is to come will be the occasion where the Age of Grace reverberates back to the Age of Law. Why? This is to complete the Interrupted and Intermission of Daniel’s 70th Week. And this, to occur in the 70th Year of the Sabbath Cycle for Israel, since it returned to the Promised Land and was ‘Birthed’ in 1948. However, the 1st Sabbath Year in the Count occurred in 1952. This is the true 70 Year Countdown to Daniel’s 70the Year, etc. "
New King James Version
15 ‘And you shall count for yourselves from the day after the Sabbath, from the day that you brought the sheaf of the wave offering: seven Sabbaths shall be completed. 16 Count fifty days to the day after the seventh Sabbath; then you shall offer a new grain offering to the Lord.
30AD (?) (Jesus's presentation as Lamb of God to Israel)+ 2,000 years (2 days) = 2030AD - start of third day - (minus 7 years tribulation)= 2023AD rapture.
IF Jewish and Gentile calendars today are correct.
