Interesting thing about the 12th, think Rev 12 and Psalm 12. NIV Psalm 12:1 Help, LORD, for no one is faithful anymore; those who are loyal have vanished from the human race. 12:7 You, LORD, will keep the needy safe and will protect us forever from the wicked, 12:8 who freely strut about when what is vile is honored by the human race. Rev 12:4 Its tail swept a third of the stars out of the sky and flung them to the earth. The dragon stood in front of the woman who was about to give birth, so that it might devour her child the moment he was born. 12:5 She gave birth to a son, a male child, who "will rule all the nations with an iron scepter." And her child was snatched up to God and to his throne. Agree - I’ll bring the Angel Food cake smothered in Strawberries :yahoo: Trust his timing here is your birthday song — hope you enjoy the fun! Todd — you are just a few months older than I — So that makes you a big brother :mdrmdr: :mdrmdr: Wow! So, the middle finger will end religion, huh? Well, these poor saps have never driven through NYC apparently. If it were true, religion would have ended a looooooong time ago. I visited their site via Kolleen's link. How very sad it is. My soul cries for them. Hmmm … well that must have been Mets fans that showed their rudeness. Yankees fans for the most part are angels and always willing to help. B-) My California brother was visiting and needed help in what subway line to take to see a certain tourist landmark … and the guy he asked was a Yankee fan and he said I will gladly give you that info … but you first need to take off that cap. He was wearing an Oakland A’s :mdrmdr: My favorite car is a 57 Chevy and my Dad actually bought one for me two years before I could drive and then my stupid cousin totaled it after we had worked for 6 months to get it restored to a pristine condition. :calvin So here is a dilemma or oxymoron—- if the atheist are going to give God the finger to end Christianity on Thursday - how can they be atheist? True atheist don’t believe God exist, but if you are giving Him a finger, you are acknowledging that He does indeed exist. So, therefore, they are not atheist but apotheotheism. Atheist deny that God exist; Apotheotheism believes God exist but are in defiance of God, stating they will depose God and are in evolving to become like gods the end result of evolution as proposed by Nietzsche and Aleister Crowley who gave an end result to Darwin’s evolution and survival of the fittest theory. Very bad place to be in this earthly life and eternity will reveal the lie they have swallowed, but it will be too late —- sad and heartbreaking. 
