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Rapture was never immanent -until now? Signs Jesus commanded us to watch for

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Signs Jesus commanded us to watch for have to be fulfilled first. Have they been? (yes, it’s all pre-trib)

* First sign we were told would start the clock ticking, Israel becoming a nation again, 1948, the fig tree parable.

Another generation shall not pass to see all the signs fulfilled. A generation according to Psalms is 70 to 80 yrs. Rapture could NOT happen BEFORE Israel turned 70.

* Wars & rumors of wars, earthquakes, insane weather, famine, pestilence, persecution of Christians, brother against brother, etc. The ‘birth pangs’, where all the above happen in greater frequency and intensity.

The above seems to have gone super mode 1-01-11 when the birds fell dead from the sky in Beebe Arkansas.

*Then we had the Arab spring where brother was fighting against brother.

*The Japan 9.0 EQ and tsunami (radiation from Fukushima nuclear reactors melting is still 24/7 spreading poison across the world air in Pacific Ocean).

Today, we see 5.0+ EQs weekly somewhere on the planet, record breaking floods; pestilence, droughts, sink holes, hurricane like storms on dry lands, tornadoes, giants & massive amounts of hail, snow in the dessert, volcanoes active at one time and freakish animal/mammal kills. When these are reported as ‘record breaking’, we don’t even notice anymore, it’s our new normal.

What other signs -Jesus commanded us to watch for- had to happen before the rapture?

* Christians being slaughtered, oppressed, silenced.

In 2011 when the Arab spring started, who were the main targets?

Christians and Christian historical/Biblical sites.

Today the persecution/murder of Christians in the ME is at an all-time high and has moved into the west. We’re seeing Christians being sued, silenced/censored/mocked, churches burned, vandalized. The western cultures are being destroyed & islamicized, by design.

Could the rapture have happened in 2014? Nope. There were still more ‘signs’ to be fulfilled. My opinion is; the four Blood moon tetrads (2014-2015) were telling us just that.

Enter in Candidate Trump announcing 2015, his run for US President.

Let’s see scripture signs first and tie in President Trump; always remembering, God is in charge of Kings/Presidents/Leaders over nations.

Scripture says (Luke 12:2): “Beware of the yeast of the Pharisees, which is hypocrisy. For there is nothing covered, that shall not be revealed; neither hid, that shall not be known. Therefore whatsoever ye have spoken in darkness shall be heard in the light; and that which ye have spoken in the ear in closets shall be proclaimed upon the housetop.

When Candidate Trump announced his run for presidency, the west went wild & after his election win and still in full force insanity.

The propaganda media exposed itself for the communist-Marxist machines they are; University, primary schools, Big Corp, Social Media (censoring-deplatforming), Hollywood (not really new), the money changers (banking-shutting off conserves/Christians businesses from making electronic transactions), DEMOCRATS (and RINOs) dropped their masks exposing the wicked-evil-vile people they really are.

Another sign we’re told would happen-division (Luke 12:52):

Suppose ye that I am come to give peace on earth? I tell you, Nay; but rather division: For from henceforth there shall be five in one house divided, three against two, and two against three. The father shall be divided against the son, and the son against the father; the mother against the daughter, and the daughter against the mother; the mother in law against her daughter in law, and the daughter in law against her mother in law.

The above, since President Trump was elected, has indeed divided houses; families, churches, social gathering, etc. NOT president Trump himself has done this, but the wicked ones who’ve exposed themselves- fighting him unjustly, tooth and nail.

Is there still another sign? Yup

Evil vs Good and so obvious one has to be blind not to see it.

(For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places.)

2 Tim 3:2:

This know also, that in the last days perilous times shall come. For men shall be lovers of their own selves, covetous, boasters, proud, blasphemers, disobedient to parents, unthankful, unholy, Without natural affection, trucebreakers, false accusers, incontinent, fierce, despisers of those that are good, traitors, heady, high-minded, lovers of pleasures more than lovers of God; Having a form of godliness, but denying the power thereof: from such turn away. For of this sort are they which creep into houses, and lead captive silly women laden with sins, led away with divers lusts, Ever learning, and never able to come to the knowledge of the truth.

The wicked are bringing in Satan’s kingdom…do they realize it?

* The apostate church, don’t need to go into this one; we’re all seeing it in every denomination.  Another sign that had to be fulfilled.

I’m not sure how much worse it’s going to get before Jesus returns, but we’ve met all the above signs.

Have I missed any signs Jesus said to watch for before he returns for his bride? :unsure:


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:amen:  Back in the 1980’s and 1990’s I kept hearing the rapture is imminent.  I don’t think the preachers knew how bad things would really get and that Israel is our timepiece to gauge where we are.   Now that we are seeing  it all converging and how ready Israel is for wanting their temple to be built and their enemies are parked at the borders ... its exciting to know the church is about to do a big disappearing act!

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Some of the events posted are tribulation events, and not pre-rapture necessities.  I do agree that their present appearance tells us we must be really close.  But the only one I can really say is required is Israel being a nation and in control of Jerusalem.


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I often ponder this passage here ... if this is pertaining only to the tribulation saints or could it be for both the church right now as well?  After each blood moon I have literally seen time speeding up on my clocks and can’t get the things done in the day that I use to.  I’ve even asked others ... saved as well as the unsaved and they are saying the same thing - they feel the days and months are flying by quickly.  Could it be something supernaturally is happening behind the scenes?

 

Matt 24:22-24

22 And except those days should be shortened, there should no flesh be saved: but for the elect's sake those days shall be shortened.

23 Then if any man shall say unto you, Lo, here is Christ, or there; believe it not.

24 For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect.


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The doctrine of imminency for me is this:  God said it would happen so it is imminent.  However, the Resurrection/Rapture event is an "appointed time" and will take place on the Feast of Pentecost, on that day, as only known to God, probably in May or early June maybe in 2019 if God is using a 70-year countdown from 1949 to Daniel's 70th week.


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