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Yohanan
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Nope! He is wrong. Angels are not a part of the rapture. Jesus Himself comes for His bride, not angels. "The angels shall gather the elect" is referring to Israel. Also, Matt 24 is dealing with the time of the Tribulation and the Church will already be gone.

The Abomination of Desolation occurs BEFORE Matthew 24:31 so we'd better hope this guy is wrong or it means we will have to go through the Trib and we know that is not so.


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So when the angels gather the elect (Israel) is that to the wedding?

Then there is 2 in the field and one is taken and the other left, Two women shall be grinding at the mill; the one shall be taken, and the other left.… those taken are the unsaved and those left get to enter the millennium, right?   And different event from angels gathering the elect or is it the same event?


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The ministering angels will guide them to the land of Palestine where they will meet their Messiah.

And yes, that is the Sheep and Goat Judgement, not the Rapture. It has commonly been mistaken as the Rapture event but it cannot be because of the context in which it is provided; Matthew chapter 24. Those left will enter the Millennial Kingdom, the others will be swept away to judgement.


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I just had a different picture of this scenario ..  I was thinking the 1/3 chosen Jews will all be safely in Petra Jordan in that hideout area.   But part of that remnant will be scattered across the globe too and miraculously make it thru the entire tribulation?


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It is just speculation but I have read a scenario that completely eliminates Petra as the hiding place for the Jews during the Trib. While it is true that the narrow canyon at Petra is reminiscent of Thermopylae (where Leonidas defeated Xerxes 300,000+ man army with only 300 Spartans in 480 BC)  the problem is that we now have missiles, drones, and aircraft capable of delivering devastating payloads of explosives. The AC will be bending all his might to the extermination of the Jews at that time and will have a terrible arsenal at his disposal. Petra would be little help. Perhaps it will be Petra. Only God knows. But given modern technologies it is not the sure fire solution it was always thought to be.


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