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An Interesting NDE - Remember Natan and Rabbi Levy?

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David W. Roche
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His message about entering heaven is one of doing good works to offset the bad things we have done.  You must know the Law, and observe it.  He speaks of visiting Gehenna, as well as a lower level of Gan Eden (the Garden of Eden).  His description of the coming Messiah and the last days is in stark contrast to what Jesus Christ says about it.  Therefore, I can't accept it as authentic.  That could also be said for the roller coaster lady's visions.


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LOL ... I’m afraid to ask ... “who is the roller coaster lady’s visions?”

Here are my 2 cents ... I also got a problem with Natan saying he went thru a tunnel of light before reaching Gan Eden (Garden of Eden).  I don’t know of any born again believer who had a NDE ever say that.  My sister was in a horrific car crash and was stuck in a few hospitals and various rehab facilities to learn how to walk and use her arms again ... at least 1 year to recover and was told she could never have any more kids since her pelvic bone was broken in 3 places plus right knee and leg.  But by God’s grace, she was able to have 2 more kids ... she missed the first year of her 6 week old boy life.  His car seat was broken in pieces but he was ok and still sound asleep.  Her husband was driving and he was ok and their friend was sitting in the passenger front seat but he experienced 3 broken ribs because my sister’s knee went thru the seat and injured him.  She was pinned down in the car for a couple of hours and needed the fire dept to remove all the scrap metal.  As soon as they reached the ER they did emergency surgery on her.  The surgeon said we lost her for a few moments.  Her heart stopped because she lost so much blood.  My sister remembers being carried by her guardian angel and taking flight into the heavens. Flying past the sun, moon and stars.  She did not go through any tunnel.  Then she heard a male voice (see didn’t see Jesus but she heard his voice and claims it was Him) and He said “its not your time yet, you have a husband and young baby to take care of”.  She was astonished to hear all this ... it was removed from her memory at that point.  She was upset in a way because she preferred being in heaven.  Then they had a heartbeat once more.  After the surgery ... she had swelling of the brain so they put her in a coma.  She was stuck in that state for months.  But each time we visited even though she couldn’t communicate to us she heard our conversations!  She remembers them all.  So if you have a loved one in a coma, keep talking to them because I believe they do hear. :whistle:    She fully recovered and is a walking miracle.   Had many surgeries though and if she flies she warns them ahead of time about all the metal parts in her leg region because it will set off their scanner device. :wacko:


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Kat Kerr - Heaven like a mystical Disney land with roller coasters !

You can look it up, Geri, but I'd rather not post it here.


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Yes, that's her. And I agree. I would not like to see it here.


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Oh yeah ... I see what you mean.  I could only watch the first 20 minutes worth of the 1:08:40 youtube. :wacko:   Didn’t even get to the Disney roller coaster rides.  I had the shivers just listening to her voice and her laughter ... I hate to say it but she seems demon possessed.  She also seems to be pushing Kingdom Now and the Joel Olsteen dogma “you can have the best life now” yada yada as well.


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