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  • #130736
    Boulder95
    Boulder95
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    Its easy to get busy and caught up with every day living but the world has not seen global troop movement on North Korea since WWII.

    1. Russian Troops to the Border
    2. South Korean and American Troops to the North Korea Border
    3. American Marines sent to Australia
    4. Japan goes on heightened alert. Troops are on high alert.
    5. Japan sends ships to the China Sea
    6. Russia and China send ships to the China Sea
    7. Russian Bombers fly by Japan, England and Alaska
    8. Russia Sends S300 to North Korean Border

    I’m at lunch I will update tonight. People War is coming soon. At least my subconscious is is telling me so. I think my spirit is as well. Its never to late to prepare for outages should something happen shortly.

    #130739
    TxThom
    TxThom
    Keymaster

    Perhaps you’ve not watched MASH, about the Korean War? In fact that war continues to this day. There was an armistice, not a peace treaty. Quoting Wikipedia: “An armistice is a formal agreement of warring parties to stop fighting. It is not necessarily the end of a war, since it may constitute only a cessation of hostilities while an attempt is made to negotiate a lasting peace.”

    We’ve been in a time out in Korea between the UN troops (including a lot of Americans) and North Korea / China since 5 years after the rebirth of Israel.

    I am convinced of this, that the One who began a good action among you will bring it to completion by the Day of the Messiah Jesus. Philippians 1:6



    #130740
    MyWhiteStone
    MyWhiteStone
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    Nothing new under the sun, Scott. Baby Moses was living in de Nile in a box… :yes: :whistle:

    I know that my Redeemer lives, and that in the end He will stand upon the earth. And after my skin has been destroyed, yet in my flesh I will see God; I myself will see Him with my own eyes -- I, and not another. How my heart yearns within me! Job19:25-27



    #130742
    waiting on him
    waiting on him
    Participant

    Any kind of time frame? You know America will be attacked when this starts… I have no problem dying, just pray no EMP.. People will Kill and loot like crazy..

    #130751

    Watchman35
    Participant

    My thought is similar to My White Stone’s: Egypt ain’t the only place where De-Nial runs deep. Abba, please hurry and save all those who will come, and then, um, how can I pray this eloquently: “Please get us out of here!!!”

    John 14:1-3 “Let not your heart be troubled; you believe in God, believe also in Me. In My Father’s house are many mansions; if it were not so, I would have told you. I go to prepare a place for you. And if I go and prepare a place for you, I will come again and receive you to Myself; that where I am, there you may be also."

    #130755
    Goldenknight
    Goldenknight
    Participant

    When we go boom-boom so we can zoom-zoom to Papa’s house?

    Jeremiah 29:11

    #130760
    kmdickinson
    kmdickinson
    Participant

    As a chain reaction, I can see India and Pakistan going nuclear with each other. China would roll into Taiwan.

    The players in the Middle East would quickly exert themselves in whatever area they are fighting in that day (it still puzzles me how sides will fight each other but then be allies in a different theater!).

    So yeah, I can easily agree with your surmise that war is inevitable. But I think there is something that happens right before (or in conjunction with) the start of this war…hmmmm, let me think…Oh I forget what it’s called…something about “meeting the Lord in the air” and “harpazo”. :mail:

    #130762

    2ndcoming
    Participant

    The war between North Korea and South Korea is inevitable. But concerning the timing of this event,I see the likelihood of being when the second seal is opened,when peace is taken away from earth. 1/4 of the earth shall plunge into wars and sword according to the fourth seal.

    If I were Trump and the South Korea president, I would rather do it now because when tribulation begins,it shall become very awkward for them to go in to North Korea when US is crippled by rapture. US can’t lend any help and support to South Korea amid themselves in big trouble and chaos. But this could be God’s judgment to South Korea because South Korea has been living in a very cozy and prosperous state since 1953. They have forgotten and neglected the suffering and persecution of their brothers in the north,especially when Jesus’ name has been shut out for many years in the north.I heard that close to half of South Koreans are Christians, but what about their brothers in the north? I don’t think God is happy with this situation and South Koreans. Judgment indeed is coming to these two brothers.

    #130772
    Boulder95
    Boulder95
    Spectator

    I Feel Sick, Because The U.S. Is On The Verge Of Making An Extremely Costly Mistake

    All day long I have just felt sick. Right at this moment, we are closer to war with North Korea than we have been at any point since the Korean War ended in 1953. If Donald Trump decides to launch a military strike against North Korea’s nuclear facilities, the consequences could be absolutely catastrophic. The North Koreans have already promised to launch nukes at South Korea and at U.S. military bases in the region in return, and they also have vast stockpiles of chemical and biological weapons that they could use as well. To get an idea of the chaos that just a handful of North Korean agents armed with biological weapons could unleash inside the United States, just see this article. A military strike on North Korea could be the spark that sets off a global war in which millions of people die, and so we need to do all that we can to prevent this from happening. My hope is that if people make enough noise that Trump will back down and decide not to attack.

    Earlier today, I was sent the following piece of intel. I was told that I could share it with all of my readers as long as I kept the name of the individual that sent it to me out of it. According to this source, it certainly looks as though an attack is being prepared…

    An O-5 silver maple leaf Air Force puke says the bomb buses in Guam are maximum loaded, fully fueled and reserves are topped off. ‎ Reserves are only topped off just before the buses go airborne.

    Kunsan has everything pointed north and ALL gates are closed…no traffic in or out.

    7 air wings have been moved into the area and an augmented Carl Vinson CVN-70 (not alone) (per CMC x 2 and an O-5) has also moved into the area.

    An O-5 barker and an O-6 Marine says all Easter leave has been cancelled with ALL‎ loaded up, geared up and warming up in several theaters.

    Castle is locked and loaded.

    Seoul is moving essential government and military personnel, as is true for U.S. Command Components and Personnel located at Yongsan‎, further south to Daegu.

    AND…Red Cloud is ready to go on the war path with nobody sleeping in the wigwams, all the arrows have been taken from the box.

    For those that don’t know, “Kunsan” refers to a U.S. Air Force base that is located at Gunsan Airport on the west coast of the Korean peninsula.

    But just because these preparations are being made does not mean that a strike will actually happen. In fact, there are some signs that indicate that we will not see a U.S. attack over the next several days.

    For one thing, Vice President Mike Pence is scheduled to be in South Korea on Sunday and Monday. So it would seem that it would be quite unlikely that anything would happen during that time.

    In addition, Fox News is reporting that the Trump administration has come to the conclusion that military force should not be used against North Korea…

    But a U.S. military official, who requested anonymity to discuss planning, said the U.S. doesn’t intend to use military force against North Korea in response to either a nuclear test or a missile launch. The official said plans could change in the unlikely event a North Korean missile targets South Korea, Japan or U.S. territory.

    But of course things seem to shift hour to hour with the Trump administration. On Thursday, NBC News was reporting that the U.S. military was poised “to launch a preemptive strike with conventional weapons against North Korea” if it looked like the North Koreans were about to conduct a nuclear weapons test…

    The U.S. is prepared to launch a preemptive strike with conventional weapons against North Korea should officials become convinced that North Korea is about to follow through with a nuclear weapons test, multiple senior U.S. intelligence officials told NBC News.

    North Korea has warned that a “big event” is near, and U.S. officials say signs point to a nuclear test that could come as early as this weekend.

    So I don’t know what is going to happen. But without a doubt we are very close to war with North Korea at this moment, and I am going to join with millions of others to do whatever we can to prevent that from happening.

    A war with North Korea would be far different from the wars that the U.S. military has been fighting in the Middle East. An ideology known as “Juche” is essentially the national religion of North Korea. In Juche, the people are put at the center of everything, and “the leader” is considered to be at the center of the people. In other words, “the leader” is almost put at the level of a deity.

    It is a very sick and twisted philosophy, but here in the western world we need to understand that when we openly talk about killing Kim Jong-Un on television and on the Internet, we are essentially threatening to kill their “god”.

    And the reason that is a problem is because Kim Jong-Un is surrounded by throngs of brainwashed supporters that will carry out any order that he gives them.

    Here in the western world, we consider it to be highly immoral to use chemical and biological weapons against innocent civilian populations, but the North Koreans do not share those moral values.

    The North Koreans consider the United States to be the great force for evil in the world, and if they feel like their way of life is being threatened by the U.S. they will not hesitate to use those sorts of weapons.

    And of course they are constantly threatening to use nuclear weapons against us. Just today I saw a report that talked about how the North Koreans are threatening to unleash “nuclear thunderbolts”, and in another report the North Koreans were quoted as saying they would “ruthlessly ravage” the United States if they are attacked…

    North Korea upped its warmongering with Donald Trump today in a series of menacing boasts threatening to ‘ravage’ US troops amid fears the two countries are heading for war.

    The secretive state vowed to ‘pulverize’ US bases and South Korean capital Seoul if it was threatened by the US military, which is carrying out drills on the Korean peninsula. A US aircraft carrier group is steaming towards the region.

    It claimed it would ‘ruthlessly ravage’ the US if Washington attacked.

    North Korea is one of the most wicked nations on the entire planet, and I would certainly greatly rejoice if their government were to fall.

    But I don’t see any way that a military strike on North Korea would be successful.

    If the North Koreans were able to fire even a single nuclear or chemical warhead at a major city such as Seoul or Tokyo it would be the worst foreign policy disaster in the history of the United States. The North Koreans would certainly be blamed, but the Trump administration would also be blamed for conducting such a reckless attack in the first place. Our relationships with our allies in the region would be permanently destroyed, and this would benefit China greatly.

    Without using nukes in an overwhelming first strike (which would be unthinkable), I don’t believe that there is any possible way that we could take out all of North Korea’s nukes before they had a chance to at least fire some of them off.

    And if North Korea did nuke Seoul or Tokyo or any U.S. military bases in the region, we would almost be forced to respond with nukes of our own, and that would have to be followed up by a massive ground invasion to topple the regime.

    So if Donald Trump is reading this, for the good of humanity I would like to strongly urge him not to conduct a military strike on North Korea at this time. The risk is just way too great, and if things go wrong we could easily be looking at a scenario in which millions of people end up dead.

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    I Feel Sick, Because The U.S. Is On The Verge Of Making An Extremely Costly Mistake

    #130773
    Boulder95
    Boulder95
    Spectator

    What A War With North Korea Would Probably Look Like

    Back in 2013 during the last major flare up between the U.S. and North Korea I wrote an extensive analysis on the North Korean wild card and how it could be used by globalists as a catalyst for international economic instability titled ‘Will Globalists Use North Korea To Trigger Catastrophe?’ As I have warned consistently over the years, like Syria, North Korea is a longstanding chaos box; a big red button that the elites can press any time they wish to instigate a chain of greater geopolitical tensions. The question has always been, will they actually use it?

    Well, it appears that under the Trump administration the establishment might go for broke. I have not seen U.S. war rhetoric so intense since the second invasion of Iraq, and all over missile tests which have been standard fare for North Korea for many years. With whispers by Trump aides of a possible 50,000 boots on the ground in Syria, and open discussion of preemptive strikes in North Korea, this time kinetic conflict is highly likely.

    Yes, we have see such military pressures before, but this time feels different. Why is an aimless quagmire war with massive potential global financial repercussions more likely under Trump? Because Trump ran under a nationalist conservative banner, and he will forever be labeled a nationalist conservative even if his behavior appears to be more globalist in nature. Rhetoric is often more psychologically powerful in the minds of the masses than action. Therefore, EVERYTHING Trump does from now on will also be labeled a product of the “nationalist conservative” ideology; including all of his screw-ups. And, with Trump in office the establishment is perfectly happy to pursue actions once considered taboo, because demonizing conservatives and liberty proponents is one of their primary objectives.

    When the real insanity starts, liberty movement activists will gnash their teeth and scream at the top of their lungs that Trump is “not acting like a conservative,” so how can conservative thinking be blamed by extension? But these people just don’t grasp the thought processes of the human mind. No matter how much we try to separate ourselves from the Trump-train if (or when) he goes full-bore globalist, our efforts will be futile. The mainstream media has spent considerable time and effort making sure that all of us are lumped in with the so-called “alt-right.” Remember, I tried to warn the movement about this long before Trump won the election.

    Currently, there are questions as to whether or not a naval task force is en route to North Korea. I would not trust the latest reports that all units are headed to Australia when Vice President Mike Pence is in Japan yesterday saying “the sword stands ready”. Could this be more posturing or a precursor to a strike scenario? I am reminded of the U.S.S. Maddox which was sent to patrol the waters off of Vietnam, the same destroyer that reported an attack by North Vietnamese torpedo boats which was used as justification for the initiation of the Vietnam War. As it turned out, no such attack actually occurred.

    The presence of a U.S. fleet off North Korea could only be intended to instigate further aggression, not defuse the situation.

    So, if war with North Korea is inevitable given the circumstances, what would such a war look like? Here are some elements I think are most important; elements that make the war almost unwinnable, if winning is even the purpose…

    North Korean Air Defense

    The North Koreans spent the better part of the last war with the U.S. being heavily battered by air bombardments. They have had plenty of time since then to consider this problem and prepare. Even the most gung-ho American military minds are forced to admit that using only air based attacks in North Korea is not practical. And where we have been spoiled by steady video streams of laser guided hell dropped on Iraqi and Afghani targets in the past, don’t expect things to go so easily in North Korea.

    While North Korea is still rife with economic problems (like every other communist and socialist nation), they still have an industrial base and produce many of their own arms. This includes and extensive missile net backed by a maze of radar systems. Their air force is by all accounts obsolete, but as I have mentioned in the past, advanced missile defense is the wave of the future. It’s cheaper and can render expensive enemy air force and naval units impotent.

    North Korea uses an indigenous built surface-to-air missile (SAM) system called the KN-06 which is as capable as some Russian SAM systems. They also field huge numbers of MANPAD (man-portable air defense) units against planes and helicopters attempting to dodge radar defenses at low altitudes. This is layered on top of a vast array of anti-aircraft artillery. And, most of this anti-air apparatus is either mobile or based underground.

    What this means is, a ground invasion is the ONLY way to attack North Korea effectively and make room for air units to strike interior targets.

    Underground Facilities

    The Pentagon estimates at least 6,000 to 8,000 underground military facilities in North Korea. New bases are being discovered all the time. While “bunker buster” bombs can possibly damage these facilities, it is unlikely that they would be completely destroyed or rendered ineffective. There is also an estimated 84 large tunnels through mountains on the southern border which would allow an immediate invasion by North Korean ground forces into South Korea. Only four of these tunnels exits have been found and blocked by South Korea.

    It is important to remember that underground infrastructure has always been the bane of the modern western military. These facilities will not be taken by air. They will have to be taken the hard way — with ground troops.

    North Korean Infantry

    In 2013 the Department of Defense reported North Korean ground forces at around 950,000. This, of course, does not count their nearly 8 million infantry reserves. They also boast over 200,000 highly trained paramilitary soldiers. North Korea has no means whatsoever to project these forces overseas against the U.S. or anyone else other than South Korea. The only way they can do damage to U.S. forces is if we show up on their doorstep.

    Since a ground invasion is the only way to proceed with what will obviously be “regime change” in North Korea, U.S. forces will be facing an endless mire of mountain warfare worse than Afghanistan with limited air support options. If it comes down to a war of attrition rather than superior technology, victory will be impossible in North Korea.

    The Nuclear Option

    The consensus view among military analysts is that North Korea will never attempt to use nukes offensively because the resulting retaliation by the U.S. would be devastating. But you often do not hear much discussion about NK using nukes defensively, and what that would mean for an invading army.

    I agree that though the mainstream media is bombarding us constantly with images of a psychotic dictatorship, North Korea is not insane enough to use nukes against the U.S. or its allies outright. If such an event did occur, I would immediately suspect the possibility of a false flag because there would be zero gain for North Korea. That said, in the event of a ground invasion into North Korea, the use of nuclear weapons becomes highly advantageous for Pyongyang.

    Consider this, with vast numbers of U.S. ground forces operating in the region, nuclear retaliation by the U.S. is simply not going to happen. A pullout of most troops would have to take place. North Korea needs only one nuke strike to destroy a U.S. fleet or hit a large civilian target in South Korea killing potential millions or hit a U.S. troop base in South Korea killing tens of thousands of American soldiers.

    Once we commit ground troops into the region, we make a nuclear attack USEFUL to North Korea, when it never would have been useful before. This is why the preemptive strike rhetoric based on a rational of stopping a “more nuclear capable” North Korea is either pure stupidity or an engineered crisis in the making.

    The Chinese Question

    Is China’s strange shift in support of tougher actions against North Korea legitimate? Well, if it is, then I think this would support my longtime assertion that China is NOT anti-globalist at all, but just another branch of the globalist cabal. Perhaps Trump’s refusal to label them currency manipulators is also evidence of this. That is a discussion for another time, though.

    China’s sudden softening of stance against U.S. pressures on North Korea seems to me to be the most blatant signal that an actual war is coming. If China refuses to present military or economic repercussions to act as a deterrent to invasion, then an invasion is likely to happen. This does not mean, though, that a future crisis between the U.S. and China is not scheduled.

    In fact, an invasion by America into North Korea opens numerous doors to all kinds of crisis events the establishment can exploit. For example, how many people are naive enough to expect that U.S. air maneuvers will respect Chinese air space restrictions? I hope not many. Having American military units in a war stance so close to the Chinese border is a recipe for disaster, and I am not necessarily referring to military disaster.

    War, contrary to popular belief, is not good for the economy. In fact, war is the perfect poison for economic trade and production. The U.S. in particular is utterly dependent on the international use of the dollar as the world reserve currency. Without this status, the American economy is dead in the water. China is a central pillar in global trade and could, with the help of a few other nations, kill the dollar’s reserve status very quickly.

    If you are curious as to why international financiers would be interested in undermining the U.S. economy in such a way, I suggest you read my article The Economic End Game Explained. The greater point is this — a war with North Korea would have nothing to do with North Korea. It would only be a means to a greater end. There are those people out there who claim to be “conservative” that always weasel out of the woodwork in times like these to pound the war fever drum. But if you think that forced regime change overseas is America’s job or duty you are not a conservative, you are a statist.

    I also cringe at the crowd of dupes that constantly bubbles to the surface claiming this time around, the invasion will be “easy”, parroting the party line. “Done in two months!”, they say. The delusion inherent in this thinking is astounding, and comes from the old-guard Republican/Neo-Con ideology. Remember how quick and cheap they said Iraq and Afghanistan would be? At bottom, there is little or nothing to be gained by Americans in this kind of conflagration. So we should be asking ourselves, who actually would gain from it?

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    #130778

    Larryb828
    Participant

    Something I came across the other day, mentioned that the gospel has not been preached in North Korea. Meaning that this would have to happen prior to the Lords return. So the stumbling block for me, with this in mind, is will there be a war and then a lasting enough peace for missionaries to enter into N Korea? If missionaries were able to enter into N Korea after said war, that would mean that the rapture had not yet taken place. So because we still need the gospel preached to N Korea and that the AC would surely rise out of WW3, heralding the trib, I’m thinking that N Korea, in this particular case, is more likely to be dealt with quietly. Un could possibly be assassinated and the remaining people in powerful positions could cave to the threat of additional force. The nation could be reformed and the gospel finally preached…But who knows 😀 just offering an alternative theory. Maranatha

    #130779
    Heather R
    Heather R
    Participant

    Something I came across the other day, mentioned that the gospel has not been preached in North Korea. Meaning that this would have to happen prior to the Lords return. So the stumbling block for me, with this in mind, is will there be a war and then a lasting enough peace for missionaries to enter into N Korea?

    Hi Larry :Hi:

    The preaching of the gospel to the whole world will occur at the midpoint of Daniel’s 70th Week, just before the flight of the remnant.

    Matthew 24:14 And this gospel of the kingdom shall be preached in all the world for a witness unto all nations; and then shall the end come. 15 When ye therefore shall see the abomination of desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet, stand in the holy place, (whoso readeth, let him understand:) 16 Then let them which be in Judaea flee into the mountains: 17 Let him which is on the housetop not come down to take any thing out of his house: 18 Neither let him which is in the field return back to take his clothes. 19 And woe unto them that are with child, and to them that give suck in those days! 20 But pray ye that your flight be not in the winter, neither on the sabbath day: 21 For then shall be great tribulation, such as was not since the beginning of the world to this time, no, nor ever shall be. 22 And except those days should be shortened, there should no flesh be saved: but for the elect’s sake those days shall be shortened.

    It’s preached by the angel in Revelation 14 who flies throughout the midst of the heavens.

    Revelation 14:6 And I saw another angel fly in the midst of heaven, having the everlasting gospel to preach unto them that dwell on the earth, and to every nation, and kindred, and tongue, and people, 7 Saying with a loud voice, Fear God, and give glory to him; for the hour of his judgment is come: and worship him that made heaven, and earth, and the sea, and the fountains of waters.

    Romans1:16 For I am not ashamed of the gospel of Christ: for it is the power of God unto salvation to every one that believeth; to the Jew first, and also to the Greek. 17 For therein is the righteousness of God revealed from faith to faith: as it is written, The just shall live by faith.
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