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  • #130663
    gobyebye
    gobyebye
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    I really didn’t see this coming.
    I expected the Rapture to be completed by 2015. I noticed my Xmas celebrations were getting sketchy. But this year’s run up to Easter has been a spiritual assault of ” where is the promise of His coming?”
    I don’t ever remember experiencing such bitterness in my life. I am salt that has lost its savor. I am Church that has lost its ability.
    I still look for the Rapture, but I don’t expect it.
    I look into the tomb, and He is not there because He is risen. What I see is absence of the Light.

    #130668
    Tender Reed
    Tender Reed
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    Seems to me that the worst Easter ever would be the one that finds us left behind. There is nothing but life in Hope!

    TR


    #130669

    Denise
    Participant

    We are living in incredible times….prophecy is unfolding before our eyes. We are also living in times where evil is abounding. The onslaught is external, with evil spirits everywhere, and demonic strongholds of mountain size. Our souls (mind, will and emotions) are overrun with viewing the world from a “worldview” perspective. The word of Yahweh, says we are to renew our souls, with the word of God, breaking down strongholds of thought, that is contrary to the word of Yahweh. It is our responsibility to renew our souls. To develop a throne room perspective, as that is where we are seated in the spirit….on a throne with Yahweh.

    As for the evil which assaults us externally we are to use our mountain moving faith and the sword of the spirit. Silence the “voices” with praise to the Most High One. This is a battle already won, it is yours to enforce by the words of your mouth and the meditations of your heart. Trust me, we are all “feeling” the evil, but the word of Yahweh, and his promises, are a much higher place. My guess is you have some important things on your path that were put there before time began by our Beloved, things only you can do/fullfill. If you were not a believer, with a path lit by the Holy Spirit, you would not “feel” the battle. Time to put on your warrior equipment, renew your mind, and embody a throne room perspective. Accomplish those things on your path…..they will be refined as gold to lay at our Yeshuas feet. The word of God triumphs your “feelings”. That is why our language with the Yahweh is called faith.

    #130670

    Watchman35
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    Hi Gobyebye. Don’t want to pretend to know or understand the circumstances that have brought you to where you are spiritually today nor the depth of your struggle. Don’t want to offer trite answers or a “know-it-all” attitude, because looking at my life, clearly I do not. I have prayed and asked the Lord to strengthen your faith in Him. At the same time, the analogy that I believe the Lord brought to my mind was a very sick patient in need of an I-V. Faith comes by hearing, and hearing by the Word of God Maybe you are already doing this, but if not, I want to encourage you to begin to play things (Bible audio recordings, Bible teachings, worship music etc.) out loud that feed your soul like an I-V of the Word of God. Use a site like Bible Gateway to play free audio Bibles. Access biblical teaching programs through apps like the Bott Radio Network or other options. Pick your programs carefully–and, as always, test everything. If you are watching what I call “crap TV” or listening to radio programs that do not edify and encourage, I urge you to remove them from the diet of your soul. The Word of God is like the medicine that the Great Physician has prescribed for you. You are being asked to be faithful to take that medicine daily. It sounds like you are in a serious battle. What you choose to let in via your eyes and ears is absolutely critical in this fight. The battle is too big for you to win, but not for God. God knows what we are able to and what we are not. Be faithful to do what you can, even as you cry out for His help. Take the medicine of His Word however you can as frequently as you can. Don’t give up Gobyebye. Even without the rapture, which I personally believe is very close, our lives here on earth are just a drop in the ocean of eternity. I pray that He continues to be the object of your hope, even as you struggle. He who promised is faithful.

    John 14:1-3 “Let not your heart be troubled; you believe in God, believe also in Me. 2 In My Father’s house are many mansions; if it were not so, I would have told you. I go to prepare a place for you. 3 And if I go and prepare a place for you, I will come again and receive you to Myself; that where I am, there you may be also.”

    God is not a man, that He should lie. Shalom to your heart.

    John 14:1-3 “Let not your heart be troubled; you believe in God, believe also in Me. In My Father’s house are many mansions; if it were not so, I would have told you. I go to prepare a place for you. And if I go and prepare a place for you, I will come again and receive you to Myself; that where I am, there you may be also."

    #130676

    Terry
    Participant

    I believed in a very slim possibility that the Rapture would occur on Easter. But I knew that millions of people were expecting the Rapture to occur on Easter because Easter is the celebration of Jesus’ resurrection, and Jesus’ resurrection is a picture of the Rapture.

    So, being that it was much too obvious a day for the Rapture to occur, I hardly had any expectation of the Rapture occurring today, Easter Sunday.

    Consider these verses in Hebrews 10:36-39. “For ye have need of patience, that, after ye have done the will of God, ye might receive the promise. For yet a little while, and he that shall come will come, and will not tarry. Now the just shall live by faith: but if any man draw back, my soul shall have no pleasure in him. But we are not of them who draw back unto perdition; but of them that believe to the saving of the soul”.

    #130679
    Scipius
    Scipius
    Participant

    Gobyebye:

    I wish you could understand how honest I am being when I say this, I have been where you are. I have endured crises of faith many times. I know it isn’t easy and it is lonely. Somewhere along the way you have lost Jesus, but you need to know he hasn’t lost sight of you. When we suffer, He suffers with us. When we feel lost, He is still with us. I can’t begin to know the circumstances of your life or how they are impacting you, but I can tell you I have struggled in life more than anybody should have to. I have suffered greatly, I have even tried ending the fight, but I have always endured. I only came to know Jesus about fourteen years ago, after years in the occult. From a bad relationship with a critical and unloving father, I feared the God was always angry, disappointed and annoyed with me. I had a picture of a hateful God who laughed when I failed and was dangling me over the fires of hell waiting to drop me in for any failure. It was hard for me to accept that Yahovah loved me, wanted to hear from me, and rejoiced when I learned from my mistakes. I had to accept that my tears, even the ones I couldn’t cry, were so precious to Him that He holds them in His hands.

    I have been bullied, abused, abandoned, rejected, criticized judged, mocked and ridiculed. I have been beaten down, pressed to my breaking point, stripped of everything and forsaken by the people who should have loved me. Every time, for reasons I didn’t understand, I was picked up, made to stand, and driven to fight again. I have gotten so weary in life it has been hard to even keep breathing. I have so many times just wanted rest. Yet along the way, I have found my God faithful. He has put Godly in decent men in my life at just the right times, men of character and wisdom. They have filled the gaps my father has left. I have been taught to live with honor and faith, to live in in dignity. They made me feel purpose and worth, they accepted me. They taught me that God is like them, loving and accepting. They taught me that what others did to me intending for evil, God has used for good.

    I was bullied, I became a soldier and learned to fight so I could defend the innocent and weak among us. I wasn’t shown fatherly love, so I love my sons with the kind of love that only God can place ina human heart. I wasn’t led to worship and pray by my father, but a pastor and dear friend got me to lead prayer, administer communion, anoint people with oil, and preach from the pulpit. My first sermon is on YouTube, out there for the world to judge me, all 33 who have watched it. I learned in spite of past, to love anywYs, help the ungrateful, forgive the unrepentant, and to never surrender. I am soldier, and I will carry out my orders till I am properly relieved of my post.

    I have gone through the dark night of the soul. I have cried out to Jesus, “where are you, Dont you care about me?” I have prayed to the ceiling just to go through the motions. I have lost Jesus a few times, but when I stopped running from Him, He found me. Every time I felt hopelessly lost, I found my way back to where I first met him. In doing so, He has always faithfully been there waiting with arms wide open. Somehow when I found Him again, He let me know He was with me every step of the way. I may have lost Jesus, but He never lost me.

    When I have hound myself surrounded by darkness, I looked for the darkest spot I could find. The deepest dark is a we can find is the shadow we cast. When we see it, we need only turn around to see the light. The darkness helps us to find the light, we just need to look for it.

    I will pray for you. My savior is faithful, He hasn’t lost you. He will never abandon or forsake you. You are not an orphan and He is not stuck with you, He chose you. And you my friend, even in doubt, will never let Him down, you aren’t the one holding Him up, He holds you up. You can never disappoint Him, He knows the end from the beginning, you can’t take Him by surprise.

    His faithful love endures forever. I will pray for you, my friend.

    Romans 8:38 For I am convinced that neither death, nor life, nor angels, nor heavenly rulers, nor things that are present, nor things to come, nor powers, 8:39 nor height, nor depth, nor anything else in creation will be able to separate us from the love of God in Christ Jesus our Lord.



    #130682

    Mike Mc
    Participant

    But I knew that millions of people were expecting the Rapture to occur on Easter because Easter is the celebration of Jesus’ resurrection, and Jesus’ resurrection is a picture of the Rapture. So, being that it was much too obvious a day for the Rapture to occur, I hardly had any expectation of the Rapture occurring today, Easter Sunday.

    As did I, Hopeful that it might, but now we can move on to the next watch time, as each day passes we get closer.

    ~

    #130690

    Barry
    Participant

    I pray your bitterness will subside, GBB. I know exactly what you mean.

    Look at it this way: we all want to finish strong. That’s on my mind every day. We don’t want to go into the kingdom having quit our race before the finish line. Set out to do at least one thing for Jesus today and eventually that bitterness will recede.

    God bless.

    John 6:67 Then said Jesus unto the twelve, Will ye also go away? 68 Then Simon Peter answered him, Lord, to whom shall we go? thou hast the words of eternal life. 69 And we believe and are sure that thou art that Christ, the Son of the living God.

    #130692
    David R
    David R
    Moderator

    I look into the tomb, and He is not there because He is risen. What I see is absence of the Light.

    He has made everything beautiful in its time. He has also set eternity in the human heart; yet no one can fathom what God has done from beginning to end. Ecclesiastes 3:11 (NIV)

    He hath made every thing beautiful in his time: also he hath set the world in their heart, so that no man can find out the work that God maketh from the beginning to the end. Ecclesiastes 3:11 (KJV)

    God has made everything fit beautifully in its appropriate time, but he has also placed ignorance in the human heart so that people cannot discover what God has ordained, from the beginning to the end of their lives. Ecclesiastes 3:11 (NET Bible)

    You will notice the translation differences in the three versions above. God has set something in the heart, but what is it exactly?

    I started my response with a remembrance of the version which says, “eternity.” My thought was that we had been told somewhere that God gives us a longing to understand eternity, and that should help us to wait on things which seem to take forever.

    But I wanted to check and see if my interpretation of that was legitimate, so I read more. This is what I found: The word used doesn’t mean what I supposed, and yet it may be helpful in the discussion.

    There is more at the link:

    But, given this article, maybe just the opposite is true. Those early events, and a number of them since, demonstrate that I am completely incapable of grasping the eternal. Perhaps the ability to be intrigued by the eternal is in my heart, but I certainly don’t have the ability to comprehend it.

    Gault isn’t motivated by our odd infatuation with infinity so much as he is interested in a passage that is more complex than we think. Apparently there are no less than ten popular interpretations of the word eternity in this passage. The most common is found in Richardson’s book, where it means “a sense of eternity,” “a longing for eternity,” or “a quest for eternal matters.” This translation would be settled except Ecclesiastes isn’t interested in life after death. Its basic theology is “all come from dust, and to dust all return” (3:20). Its main interest is present life “under the sun” and not our musings about eternity.

    The translation Gault prefers is darkness or ignorance rather than eternity, and he is not alone in his choice. To get this he must change the vowels of the Hebrew word, which is permissible because the original text was written only in consonants with vowels being added centuries after the text was completed.

    Here is the entire verse (NIV):
    He has made everything beautiful in its time. He has also set eternity in the hearts of men; yet they cannot fathom what God has done from beginning to end.

    A paraphrase reflecting Gault’s preferred translation might read like this:
    God has made everything appropriate in its time. He has placed darkness in the human heart so that people cannot discover all God has done. (Gault p.53)

    This gives a very different conclusion. In times of difficulty, we are tempted to ask, “What is God doing?” or even “How could He have allowed this to happen?” The revised text offers this answer.

    While God has created all the “times” of life (Ecclesiastes 3:2-8), each appropriate in its time (v.10), He has obscured humanity’s knowledge, placing darkness in their hearts, so that they cannot discover His divine program (v.11). But why? Because God wants humanity to enjoy the work He has given them (vv.12-13), to trust in His sovereignty and fear Him (v.14). (Gault p.57)

    Focus on your task at hand; trust God for the future. That would be the message of the verse, and it fits the message of the larger book. It is simple and wise advice.

    Run with this for a bit. Consider what you might do with this translation. For example, it means that our ignorance of the details of God’s plan is not a curse. It is simply the way we were created. In other words, it is a good thing that we are not in on the specifics.

    https://www.ccef.org/resources/blog/eternity-our-hearts-ecclesiastes-311-revisited

    Fair Use For Educational or Discussion Purposes

    The short version is that we don’t need to know everything; we only need to trust God.

    My soul yearns, even faints, for the courts of the Lord;
    my heart and my flesh cry out for the living God. Psalm 84:2


    #130693
    Donna
    Donna
    Participant

    But I knew that millions of people were expecting the Rapture to occur on Easter because Easter is the celebration of Jesus’ resurrection, and Jesus’ resurrection is a picture of the Rapture. So, being that it was much too obvious a day for the Rapture to occur, I hardly had any expectation of the Rapture occurring today, Easter Sunday.

    As did I, Hopeful that it might, but now we can move on to the next watch time, as each day passes we get closer.
    ~

    Jesus cried out to His own Father, “Father, IF it be thy will, let this cup pass from Me” . . Father’s answer to His own Son of Whom He was WELL pleased? . . ‘No” . .

    and to the millions (and I’ve no doubt millions interceded yesterday to our Father for Christ’s return) Abba Father’s answer? “No” . . don’t ya just know dear sibs, how precious our prayers are to the Living God ~~. . . . ” to Whom can we go to but Thee, oh God” ~~ . . . . ~~ ~ we’re tired, ~ ~ STILL Jesus promised He shall lose none, and rightly, supremely, and with all His Heart He loves us! . . . . no matter the circumstances, Christ’s Power moves the faithful IN HIM because of His Spirit abiding ~~ God said it, that’s it ~~ Praise our LORD RISEN ~


    #130694
    Tender Reed
    Tender Reed
    Participant

    I can’t imagine that the Lord would discount even an “obvious” day for the Rapture because it was. But rather He has chosen THE Day before the foundations of the world.

    I wonder if it will obvious to us when it does happen, or if it will need to be explained to us?!

    TR


    #130695

    Mike Mc
    Participant

    He has chosen THE Day before the foundations of the world.

    obvious

    synonyms: clear · crystal clear · plain · plain to see · evident · apparent · manifest · patent · conspicuous · pronounced · transparent · palpable · prominent · marked · decided · distinct · noticeable · unmissable · perceptible · visible · discernible · unmistakable · indisputable · self-evident · incontrovertible · incontestable · undeniable · beyond doubt · beyond question · as clear as day · staring someone in the face

    We will be Jumping for Joy My Friend, and I am absolutely sure we will know, kind a like Enoch and God Took Us…

    ~

    #130696
    gobyebye
    gobyebye
    Participant

    I never really know how people will respond to a post. Thank you to all who replied to this thread.
    I put the post up as a report on my experience of life being a believer, waiting on the Rapture. Some readers lament that they have no church to worship at. I attended two churches. Lovely services; no Joy of the Spirit. I wasn’t expecting the Rapture, but these days I am often looking for a Rapture that I am not really expecting to occur. I seem to be becoming a/the Church in the world that can no longer be about the Father’s business.
    Today is the Monday after the joyless Easter 2017. I feel like I am hungover; too much alcohol, too much bitterness, too much poison. The glory of God in this day is in no way diminished because I am having a bad day. I will return to my prayers and faith. If recent events are any predictor, God will grant me enough Grace to get through the days.

    #130697
    waiting on him
    waiting on him
    Participant

    GBB, as like others I can relate.. Don’t know what issues you are dealing with, but mine is at the age of 60 taking care of my wife who over 3 years ago had a stroke and cant walk or even talk right now. Also have our 30 year old son at home trying to help him get off drugs. And Im quite sure others are dealing with worse. Yea we who believe want to go home. But so have millions of others over the past 2000 years! So Im looking less and less for the rapture and await death. Why do people get upset when I say that? Are we not saved? don’t we go to heaven even if we don’t look for the rapture? Yes told to look, but more important,, do our jobs! I figure if things are that bad and someone cant wait then they have an option.. Once saved, always saved.. I would rather wait till im older to die. There are good days and bad days, we deal with the bad as best we can KNOWING some day we will be in HEAVEN!!! Thank you Jesus!!

    #130699

    Terry
    Participant

    I wonder if it will obvious to us when it does happen, or if it will need to be explained to us?!

    b

    I believe the day of the Rapture will be obvious to us! For 1 Thessalonians 5:4 says: “But ye, brethren, are not in darkness, that that day should overtake you as a thief”. And when Jesus said: “But of that day and hour knoweth no man”, he could not have meant that we would have no idea what day the Rapture would occur, or else 1 Thessalonians 5:4 which I quoted, wouldn’t be true.
    So, nobody knowing the day or the hour, cannot mean that we would not have an idea what day the Rapture would be on, but that we wouldn’t be able to say that: “without a doubt, this certain date right here is definitely the date of the Rapture, no if’s, ands, or but’s”.

    So the day of the Rapture, WILL be obvious to us. We just won’t know for sure if it’s the day.

    don’t we go to heaven even if we don’t look for the rapture?

    According to Perry Stone, if we don’t believe in the Rapture, we will not be raptured. I’ve wondered if this is true! Makes me glad that I believe in the Rapture, and that I am looking for it.

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