Very Fascinating New Timeline: If It's Right, We are Going Home Soon

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    Watchman35
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    I came across a couple of videos that I watched over the past couple of days related to the potential timing of the rapture. The videos are from someone I know nothing about and have not heard of before. I believe his YouTube channel is called Heavenly Sign 2017. Again, I have not spent a bunch of time researching this, so please use wisdom and discernment if you choose to watch these. As always, test, test, test everything. Also, be forewarned, he is not the most dynamic presenter you will ever hear. If you do listen, focus on substance over style. :Hi:

    The first video talks about the timeline he has developed from his study of the scriptures, with a particularly interesting application of Daniel 12:10. Rather than try to explain it myself, I will encourage those who have the time to listen and see what you think. The bottom line of his timeline for we watchers is that he believes the rapture occurs somewhere in the two-day period of the Feast of Trumpets 2017, immediately prior to the Revelation 12 sign in the heavens.

    The second video focuses on how so many generations before us thought THEY were the generation that would see the Lord’s return, but that our generation is very different than any that have come before us. If you take the time to watch this one, don’t bail out at the midpoint when it sort of seems like it is over. What then follows is a very dramatic, impacting depiction of many verses from the Book of Revelation, from what I believe is intended to be from the perspective of what John is seeing. How horrific life on earth will be for those left behind to experience Daniel’s 70th week. Abba, use us to help spare others, according to Your plan and purposes.

    Fair use for educational and discussion purposes.

    John 14:1-3 “Let not your heart be troubled; you believe in God, believe also in Me. In My Father’s house are many mansions; if it were not so, I would have told you. I go to prepare a place for you. And if I go and prepare a place for you, I will come again and receive you to Myself; that where I am, there you may be also."

    #129011
    rbmomof4
    rbmomof4
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    I listened with fascination to both of these videos.

    You know, I’ve always thought I wanted to KNOW, without a doubt, the date of the Rapture.
    Now…I’m not so sure that’s such a good idea.

    Let me explain…

    Let’s say I put on FB or other social media that there’s positive proof that Christ is coming during Rosh Hoshanna this year. Now, someone who is not a Christian could say: “Oh, I have more time. I’m going to live it up. I’ll make a change right before the Rapture so I can go to Heaven.” That may work…but what if they get killed or die or are in a coma and can’t make that decision before the Rapture happens.

    Granted, someone could right then and there make a change and put their trust in Christ as their Savior because they want to be assured they’ll go to Heaven when the Rapture happens.That would be wonderful.

    I’m just saying: KNOWING the exact date may NOT make someone change if they have several months more to make the change, as would be the case where with us knowing…FOR SURE…that the Rapture is happening at Rosh Hoshanna.

    I would pray that Christ would come TODAY…waiting another six months seems like six YEARS to me. I’m not bashing the guy who made the video. I guess I’m saying that this is a new revelation for me.

    [For we know that all things work together for those who love God, for those who are called according to His purpose. Romans 8:28]


    #129019
    humblehorse
    humblehorse
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    I think the guy fudges the 1290 days!!

    My understanding is that Daniel says that the 1290 days occurs after the Abomination of Desolation, whereas he’s stuck it in the first half of the tribulation! Which will throw the day counts out…

    Also I see no logical reason for the rapture to occur two days before the Revelation 12 sign…

    Just some thoughts! B-)

    ....Peace, Love, Rock 'n Roll. X


    #129030

    Watchman35
    Participant

    I think the guy fudges the 1290 days!!

    My understanding is that Daniel says that the 1290 days occurs after the Abomination of Desolation, whereas he’s stuck it in the first half of the tribulation! Which will throw the day counts out…

    Also I see no logical reason for the rapture to occur two days before the Revelation 12 sign…

    Just some thoughts! B-)

    At this point, I am not arguing for or against what this man is saying. Just contemplating it. If you have taken time to dig into the word study on Daniel 12:10 that he references in his video, and arrived at a place where you reject his conclusion, then your response makes sense to me. If, however, you have reached that conclusion before making that in-depth analysis of the words of Daniel 12:10, then it seems to me that your response may be missing his points.

    1) He is arguing for a completely different interpretation, based on the actual original language of Daniel 12:10, rather than the more widely accepted view you allude to, which is that the 1290 days come after the Abomination of Desolation. Not saying you have to agree with him (not even saying I do), but he has a different take than what I think most of us have believed. He thinks the literal meaning of the words of Daniel 12:10 argue for the 1290 coming in the first half of Daniel’s 70th week, with a 30-day gap between the rapture and the start of the 70th week (1260 +30 = 1290). He believes the wording of Daniel 12:10 argues for a 1290 day count leading up to the abomination.
    2) My understanding is that the “logical” reasons (at least from his point of understanding) for the rapture to occur 2 days in front of the Rev 12 sign is that a) that places it in the Feast of Trumpets window, when no man knows the day and hour that the new moon will be observed, and 2) by placing it there, the rest of his timeline “fits” in the theory he is putting forth. That includes the 30-day gap between the rapture and the start of the 70th week, the 1260 from the start of the week to the AOD, and then the 1335 from the AOD to the Yom Kippur return.

    All very interesting to contemplate! Maranatha, Lord Jesus!!! Watching, praying, and longing to be in Your presence.

    John 14:1-3 “Let not your heart be troubled; you believe in God, believe also in Me. In My Father’s house are many mansions; if it were not so, I would have told you. I go to prepare a place for you. And if I go and prepare a place for you, I will come again and receive you to Myself; that where I am, there you may be also."

    #129031
    Tender Reed
    Tender Reed
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    I’m sure the Lord is well pleased that we all anticipate our redemption and being reunited with Him. That we watch, pray and study also surely pleases Him.

    Whether we will be given the knowledge of that day with any measure of assurance, who knows? But we can be assured that day will happen!

    I am also sure that He longs for that day as well. I agree, for the time being, that the day of Rapture remain unsettled. For surely, it still takes faith to be pleasing in His sight. We as children certainly like to push the boundaries, no doubt.

    Should that day become evident and or declared by Him beforehand it will be in accordance with His perfect will!

    He who created the principle and administration of the prophetic, is sovereign.

    TR


    #129032

    waragoodwarfare
    Participant

    Hi,

    My wife and I found his videos well worth watching.
    He seems very credible.

    Dave

    #129033
    waiting on him
    waiting on him
    Participant

    Im thinking Pentecost either this year or next..

    #129038
    Heather R
    Heather R
    Participant

    The Feast of Trumpets is a memorial of the giving of the law on Pentecost. I understand why people favor a FoT rapture. I don’t personally think that way, but I understand the thought. Just for curiosity’s sake, why favor the day of remembrance over the day of the actual event? Not that either one has to be “the day”.

    Romans1:16 For I am not ashamed of the gospel of Christ: for it is the power of God unto salvation to every one that believeth; to the Jew first, and also to the Greek. 17 For therein is the righteousness of God revealed from faith to faith: as it is written, The just shall live by faith.
    #129058
    Melissa
    Melissa
    Participant

    I thought the videos were interesting and don’t see why the rapture couldn’t happen on a spring date and then the trib start on this man’s timeline?! I still favor Ascension day :yes: I would caution though about 100 percent claims of a rapture date. :rose:

    It is better to trust in the Lord than to put confidence in man. Psalm 118:8


    #129068

    Watchman35
    Participant

    I would caution though about 100 percent claims of a rapture date. :rose:

    Agree 100% with your caution about 100%. :good:

    John 14:1-3 “Let not your heart be troubled; you believe in God, believe also in Me. In My Father’s house are many mansions; if it were not so, I would have told you. I go to prepare a place for you. And if I go and prepare a place for you, I will come again and receive you to Myself; that where I am, there you may be also."

    #129073

    Leroy
    Participant

    Viewed the vids.
    However I still think its going to be a springtime rapture. Always have. I do think hes right about the trib beginning in Sept. Not sure about him re arranging the 30 day wait or gap. I thought the 30 days gap or delay or whatever it is is the time between jesus actual physical return to sit in judgement over all in regards if those who remain alive to be allowed into the millenia kingdom or not.
    I think a springtime rapture or at latest pentacost time allows enough time for the psalm 83 war and isiah 17 war destruction of Demascus and for gaza to be destroyed. Not sure if ezek 38 war takes place then or if its the second horse. Then in the months that fallow the rapture, in wars aftermath the temple gets rebuilt then dedicated, treaty with the many made strong by the ac by time of jewish new years starting the 7 years trib…360 days x 7 plus whatever wait time be for millennia kingdom.

    #129107
    Tender Reed
    Tender Reed
    Participant

    Even so Lord, come. We’re burning daylight here! All we can do is anticipate and then eliminate those days that have passed into the next possible moment.

    May our understanding and our heart meet in the day of His sovereignty!

    TR


    #129135
    gobyebye
    gobyebye
    Participant

    I will buy it, thought the Rapture was supposed to happen in 2015.
    The Bride has made herself ready, and is beginning to get a little bitter about being kept waiting,

    #129138

    waragoodwarfare
    Participant

    Hi,

    My wife are ready anytime.
    But now is better than later.

    Dave

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