Tongues & groanings, a gift or a sign?

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    Tender Reed
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    My question is, is speaking in tongues a gift or a sign?! The bible also makes mention of deep groanings of the spirit. Would this also include heartfelt strains of sighs?! But whether the gift of tongues which I have never experienced, or an heavenly language, it does seem to me that Satan always tries to imitate the things of God!

    For as long as I have been a Christian, I have always vacillated between desiring to have an heavenly language or not. The gift of tongues is known and discernible language, albeit divinely inspired and manifested. Heavenly language however is indiscernible! Till date, I have been given but one phrase in an unknown language.

    Let me try to put to pen what that phrase sounds like. (Shelem da molokai, no pito com)! This phrase is used when I am under demonic attack and seems to serve me well in dissuading demonic oppression!

    Aside from this singular phrase, I have over the years been exposed to those demonstrating their own heavenly language. Most of the time I have I have been turned off not sensing the Spirit’s annointing. I am also aware that many simply learn their “tongue” from someone else, many times also mimicking speech they have heard spoken by others.

    I have also resoundingly rejected the politics of some denominations who have taught that “heavenly language” is proof of infilling and salvation! That said, there have been a few occasions when I have been in the presence of an heavenly language and been blessed and encouraged on a spirit level. Rather than intellectually or by simply the hearing of such language.

    I do understand the premise of an heavenly language, but then again as Paul has taught, I would rather speak with but a few words with intellectual understanding, than with a flood of indiscernible language.

    So then I conclude, that “tongues” is a manifestation from God for edification. Is simply one of many miracles that are in His quiver. Heavenly language, seems to me to be uniquely personal expressions to be sounded upon our beds or in our prayer closets. And groanings of spirit are for when we communicate directly to the Holy Spirit!

    What say ye??? And if someone has the gift of interpretation, perhaps they can interpret the one phrase I have been given. Thank you kindly!

    TR


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    Watchman35
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    Here are my thoughts, TR.

    Essentially, I agree with your assessment. The gift of tongues, like any other gift, is always for the edification of someone other than the one exercising the gift. The gift flows through the one exercising the gift to benefit the one whom the Lord desires to benefit from the gift. So, if one is praying in another tongue in a public setting and no one has any idea what is being said, it is not a gift to those hearing. There must be an interpretation for edification to take place. Otherwise, it creates confusion, which tells you immediately it is not of the Lord.

    That said, the private exercise of a heavenly prayer language IS intended to edify the one praying as the Holy Spirit leads one to pray beyond our own finite understanding. I pray in the spirit, although not nearly as much as I ought to. In 1 Cor 13, Paul said he thanked God he prayed more in the spirit than all to whom he was writing, but then immediately went on to say that he would rather speak five words with his mind, when in the church, than ten thousand words in a tongue that was not understandable to the hearers. As you indicated, TR, one of the common uses of a personal prayer language is for us to use it when we are overwhelmed and/or uncertain how we should pray about a matter.

    One final observation. People often make the mistake of elevating the God-given ability to pray in a heavenly language as some sort of spiritual badge or indication of spiritual maturity. In my experience, such a correlation not only does not always exist, but often is completely the opposite, where an immature or carnal believer may have a personal prayer language. Even worse, and more harmful to the Body of Christ, are those who insist that praying in the spirit is some sort of required evidence for salvation, which then becomes a kind of informal litmus test. This unscriptural viewpoint has caused great harm and division within the Body of Yeshua.

    As for your utterance, sorry but I have no interpretation. But then, that’s the beauty of praying privately in the spirit. God knows exactly what it means.

    John 14:1-3 “Let not your heart be troubled; you believe in God, believe also in Me. In My Father’s house are many mansions; if it were not so, I would have told you. I go to prepare a place for you. And if I go and prepare a place for you, I will come again and receive you to Myself; that where I am, there you may be also."

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    Tender Reed
    Tender Reed
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    Thanks for your thoughts and insights. Indeed, being born again has not and cannot be formulatic. I am still anxious to see if any on this site can exercise the gift of interpretation!

    TR


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