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    Terry
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    Over 30 years ago, before I became a strong Christian, well, I may have been a Christian, but not a strong Christian apparently, or maybe not a true Christian, I guess because I was stressed, and was suffering in one or more ways, and was tired of suffering, I was angry with God for allowing me to suffer, and I cursed God, and cursed the Holy Spirit. (Holy Ghost).

    In Matthew 12:31,32 Jesus says: “Wherefore I say unto you, All manner of sin and blasphemy shall be forgiven unto men: but the blasphemy against the Holy Ghost shall not be forgiven unto men. And whosoever speaketh a word against the Son of man, it shall be forgiven him: but whosoever speaketh against the Holy Ghost, it shall not be forgiven him, neither in this world, neither in the world to come”.

    I have, in the past, had a Bible study on this topic, and I watched more than one Youtube video on this topic: “Blasphemy Against the Holy Spirit”, which gave me an understanding, and some comfort that I can still be forgiven, and still be saved, but I want to make sure, that I have been forgiven, and saved, by checking with you guys here at Ritanow, and get your take, to find out what your understanding and belief is, if I can be forgiven, and have been forgiven, and if I can still be saved.

    Can I truly be forgiven? And can I truly be saved? Or is there no hope for me? :unsure: 😥 The Bible says that the blood of Christ cleanses us from all sin, doesn’t that also mean the sin of blasphemy against the Holy Spirit (Holy Ghost)? Doesn’t “all” mean “all”?

    From time to time I wonder if I am truly saved. Also, from time to time as an adult, even nowadays, blasphemous thoughts pop into my mind. If I have a blasphemous thought pop into my mind, does God blame me for having it, or does he blame Satan, or one of his demons for putting that thought in my mind? In other words, every time I have a blasphemous thought pop into my mind, am I supposed to ask God for forgiveness, if Satan, or one of his demons may have put that thought in my mind? :unsure:

    #131801
    Regina
    Regina
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    Hello Terry, I encourage you to talk with your pastor.
    Dr Andy Woods talks about this passage in one of his lessons about the coming Kingdom. The passage is not talking about swear words or a believer being angry at God.
    Dr Woods explains that the context is Jesus speaking to the Jewish leaders about their rejection of his offering the kingdom—He came fulfilling prophecy and requirements, the king chosen by God–see Deut 17:14-20 about how God had told Israel to accept the king that He chose.
    When the Jewish leaders could not deny the miracles Jesus did, they attributed those miracles to demonic source.
    This is what Jesus replied to. The Jewish leaders who accused Jesus of this were never saved, they were not believers.
    You are saved by grace through faith, not of works. You were saved, when you first trusted Christ. You are in a growing progressive time known as sanctification, becoming more like the Lord, more pleasing to God and overcoming sin as the Holy Spirit grows you-this is you presently being saved each day. You are saved eternally, even sin nature gone in the future when you go to be with the Lord–either at the rapture or if you die.
    Jesus said that no-one can take His own from Him. Satan is not able to steal the saved. They can lose rewards–John 10:27-30, 1 Cor 3: 11-15

    Jack Kelley also taught about this:
    https://gracethrufaith.com/ask-a-bible-teacher/have-i-committed-the-unpardonable-sin

    Dr. Andy Woods teaching below:
    Audio here: https://slbc.org/sermon/the-coming-kingdom-011
    Transcript: https://slbc.org/sermon/the-coming-kingdom-011/#transcriptlink

    Some of the salvation series you may find helpful to know you do have eternal life:
    https://slbc.org/series-event/soteriology-the-doctrine-of-salvation/page/7

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    Judah, you are he whom your brothers shall praise: your hand shall be in the neck of your enemies; your father's children shall bow down before you. Judah is a lion's whelp: from the prey, my son, you are gone up: he stooped down, he couched as a lion, and as an old lion; who shall rouse him up? The scepter shall not depart from Judah, nor a lawgiver from between his feet, until Shiloh come; and to him shall the gathering of the people be. Gen 49

    #131802

    Barry
    Participant

    Andy Woods is one of my favorite teachers. Doctrinally sound, and interesting to listen to.

    John 6:67 Then said Jesus unto the twelve, Will ye also go away? 68 Then Simon Peter answered him, Lord, to whom shall we go? thou hast the words of eternal life. 69 And we believe and are sure that thou art that Christ, the Son of the living God.

    #131804

    Terry
    Participant

    Thank you for sharing the information about this passage in one of Dr Andy Wood’s lessons. I appreciate it! 🙂 And I also appreciate the links. This all so very helpful. 😉

    Andy Woods is one of my favorite teachers. Doctrinally sound, and interesting to listen to.

    Yes, Andy Woods seems like a good teacher.

    #131807
    Savedat33
    Savedat33
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    Romans 8:38-39

    37 No, in all these things we are more than conquerors through him who loved us. 38 For I am convinced that neither death nor life, neither angels nor demons, neither the present nor the future, nor any powers, 39 neither height nor depth, nor anything else in all creation, will be able to separate us from the love of God that is in Christ Jesus our Lord.

    There is only one sin that is unforgivable and that is rejecting Jesus as Lord and Savior.

    Once we are saved, we can never be “unsaved”. If we could be, it goes against literally everything God promised those who would believe during the Age of Grace.

    Even during the Tribulation, the only thing that makes a person “unsavable” is taking the Mark of the Beast…again, rejecting God.

    Did you ever get mad at your human parents growing up? Or got angry and said things you didn’t mean to someone you loved? The Lord knows what we are made of, He made us. He knows our weaknesses and He gives us strength. He is the Good Father. A good father understands His kids have bad days and stress. You haven’t committed a sin that is unforgivable and you aren’t “not saved” or “not a true Christian” because if you were those things – then you wouldn’t be worried about what happened when you got upset :rose:

    You are worried because you are His child and just like when we get into an argument down here with others and you regret saying something and apologize – do the same with the Lord. Confess it to Him, apologize and have all the faith in the world that you are forgiven, because you are :rose:

    #131808
    No Other Rock
    No Other Rock
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    unpardonable sin, unforgivable sin
    Question: “What is the unpardonable sin / unforgivable sin?”

    Answer: The unpardonable/unforgivable sin or “blasphemy of the Holy Spirit” is mentioned in Mark 3:22–30 and Matthew 12:22–32. Jesus said, “Truly I tell you, people can be forgiven all their sins and every slander they utter” (Mark 3:28), but then He gives one exception: “Whoever blasphemes against the Holy Spirit will never be forgiven; they are guilty of an eternal sin” (verse 29).

    According to Jesus, the unpardonable or unforgivable sin is unique. It is the one iniquity that will never be forgiven (“never” is the meaning of “either in this age or in the age to come” in Matthew 12:32). The unforgivable sin is blasphemy (“defiant irreverence”) of the Holy Spirit in the context of the Spirit’s work in the world through Christ. In other words, the particular case of blasphemy seen in Matthew 12 and Mark 3 is unique. The guilty party, a group of Pharisees, had witnessed irrefutable evidence that Jesus was working miracles in the power of the Holy Spirit, yet they claimed that He was possessed by the prince of demons, Beelzebul (Matthew 12:24; Mark 3:30).

    The Jewish leaders of Jesus’ day committed the unpardonable sin by accusing Jesus Christ (in person, on earth) of being demon-possessed. They had no excuse for such an action. They were not speaking out of ignorance or misunderstanding. The Pharisees knew that Jesus was the Messiah sent by God to save Israel. They knew the prophecies were being fulfilled. They saw Jesus’ wonderful works, and they heard His clear presentation of truth. Yet they deliberately chose to deny the truth and slander the Holy Spirit. Standing before the Light of the World, bathed in His glory, they defiantly closed their eyes and became willfully blind. Jesus pronounced that sin to be unforgivable.

    The blasphemy against the Holy Spirit, specific as it was to the Pharisees’ situation, cannot be duplicated today. Jesus Christ is not on earth, and no one can personally see Jesus perform a miracle and then attribute that power to Satan instead of the Spirit. The only unpardonable sin today is that of continued unbelief. There is no pardon for a person who dies in his rejection of Christ. The Holy Spirit is at work in the world, convicting the unsaved of sin, righteousness, and judgment (John 16:8). If a person resists that conviction and remains unrepentant, then he is choosing hell over heaven. “Without faith it is impossible to please God” (Hebrews 11:6), and the object of faith is Jesus (Acts 16:31). There is no forgiveness for someone who dies without faith in Christ.

    God has provided for our salvation in His Son (John 3:16). Forgiveness is found exclusively in Jesus (John 14:6). To reject the only Savior is to be left with no means of salvation; to reject the only pardon is, obviously, unpardonable.

    Many people fear they have committed some sin that God cannot or will not forgive, and they feel there is no hope for them, no matter what they do. Satan would like nothing more than to keep people laboring under that misconception. God gives encouragement to the sinner who is convicted of his sin: “Come near to God and he will come near to you” (James 4:8). “Where sin increased, grace increased all the more” (Romans 5:20). And the testimony of Paul is proof positive that God can and will save anyone who comes to Him in faith (1 Timothy 1:12–17). If you are suffering under a load of guilt today, rest assured that you have not committed the unpardonable sin. God is waiting with open arms. Jesus’ promise is that “he is able to save completely those who come to God through him” (Hebrews 7:25). Our Lord will never fail. “Surely God is my salvation; I will trust and not be afraid. The LORD, the LORD himself, is my strength and my defense; he has become my salvation” (Isaiah 12:2).

    https://www.gotquestions.org/unpardonable-sin.html
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    What is the “Unforgivable Sin?”
    Andy Rau
    Senior manager of content for Bible Gateway.

    In one memorable New Testament scene, Jesus’ critics accuse him of being in league with the devil himself. In answering his critics, Jesus refers to something that has troubled Christians ever since: the so-called “unforgivable sin.”

    Here are Jesus’ words:

    “I promise you that any of the sinful things you say or do can be forgiven, no matter how terrible those things are. But if you speak against the Holy Spirit, you can never be forgiven. That sin will be held against you forever.” — Mark 3:28-29 (CEV)

    Different Bible translations word this differently; some use the phrase “eternal sin” or “unforgivable sin.” In some, the sin is to “blaspheme against” or “curse the Holy Spirit.” Whatever the wording, what troubles many readers is the suggestion that there is a type of sin that God will not forgive. Doesn’t this contradict verses like 1 John 1:9, which state that God will forgive all of our wrongdoing? What exactly is the sin that can’t be forgiven—and is it possible that you’ve committed it, even unintentionally?

    These are serious questions. For an answer, I turned to author and apologist Lee Strobel’s Investigating Faith newsletter, where earlier this year he published a thoughtful reflection on a difficult Bible passage. Here’s Lee’s response to the question.
    What is the unforgivable sin, and how do I know I haven’t committed it?

    “If you’re worried that you may be guilty of the unforgivable sin, you almost certainly are not,” Rick Cornish aptly points out in his book Five Minute Theologian. “Concern about committing it reveals the opposite attitude of what the sin is. Those who might be guilty wouldn’t care because they have no distress or remorse over the possibility.”

    Jesus talked about the unforgivable sin in Matthew 12:31-32: “And I tell you, every sin and blasphemy will be forgiven men, but the blasphemy against the Spirit will not be forgiven. Anyone who speaks a word against the Son of Man will be forgiven, but anyone who speaks against the Holy Spirit will not be forgiven, either in this age or in the age to come.”

    Let’s face it – that’s a very sobering teaching! But let’s put it into context. Note that Jesus didn’t address his comments to his disciples or a mere crowd. He was talking specifically to Pharisees who had personally witnessed his miracle of completely and instantly healing a blind and mute demon-possessed man (Matthew 12:22). Rather than acknowledging the obvious fact that Jesus was exercising divine powers, the Pharisees were so spiritually depraved that they attributed his power to Satan (v. 24).

    “Their problem was not blind ignorance, but willful rejection,” pointed out Cornish. “That deliberate refusal to believe, even though knowing the truth, seems to be what Jesus called the unforgivable sin.”

    As the Quest Study Bible puts it, “Jesus gave the solemn warning in these verses to people whose hard-heartedness placed them on the brink of disaster. Blasphemy against the Spirit evidently is not just a one-time offense; rather, it is an ongoing attitude of rebellion – a stubborn way of life that continually resists, rejects and insults the Holy Spirit. This is what makes it, in effect, an eternal sin (Mark 3:29). Blasphemy against the Spirit is not unforgivable because of something done unintentionally in the past, but because of something being done deliberately and unrelentingly in the present.”

    So if you’re an authentic Christian, don’t spend time fretting over whether you have accidentally committed this unforgivable offense. “There is no biblical evidence that a genuine Christian can commit this (unforgivable) sin,” says the Apologetics Study Bible. “Fear that one has done so is probably a good sign that one hasn’t, for full-fledged apostasy is a defiant rejection of everything Christian and lacks the tender conscience that would be worried about such an action.” — Lee Strobel

    What is the “Unforgivable Sin”?


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    Q: What is the unpardonable sin? I am afraid I may have committed it.

    A: Many Christians have heard that there is an unpardonable sin and live in dread that something grave they have done before or after conversion might be that sin.

    Their fears are unfounded. While there is an unforgivable sin, it is not one that a true believer in Jesus Christ can commit.

    The one sin which God cannot forgive is mentioned in Mark 3:28-30 and Matthew 12:31-32. Jesus had been performing miracles, including driving demons out of people by the power of the Holy Spirit. Instead of recognizing the source of Jesus’ power and accepting Him as God’s Son, the religious leaders accused Him of being possessed by the devil and driving demons out in the power of the devil.

    Jesus responded by saying, “I tell you the truth, all the sins and blasphemies of men will be forgiven them. But whoever blasphemes against the Holy Spirit will never be forgiven; he is guilty of an eternal sin.”

    The sin of the religious leaders, blasphemy against the Holy Spirit, was a refusal to accept the witness of the Holy Spirit to who Jesus was and what He had come to do, and then submit their lives to Him. Jesus said concerning the Holy Spirit, “When he comes, he will convict the world of guilt in regard to sin and righteousness and judgment” (John 16:8). They chose rather to reject the Spirit’s witness to their sin and to Jesus, and accused Him of being demon possessed!

    The point for us is that if we have received Jesus as our Savior and Lord, we have not blasphemed the Holy Spirit; we have accepted His witness. One study Bible explains it as follows: “To commit this sin one must consciously, persistently, deliberately, and maliciously reject the testimony of the Spirit to the deity and saving power of the Lord Jesus.” If a person keeps doing that until death, there is no hope of forgiveness and eternal life in heaven.

    Once again, the unpardonable sin is not some particularly grievous sin committed by a Christian before or after accepting Christ, nor is it thinking or saying something terrible about the Holy Spirit. Rather, it is deliberately resisting the Holy Spirit’s witness and invitation to turn to Jesus until death ends all opportunity.

    In order to experience God’s peace, we must come to Him, trusting His promises. Isaiah 1:18 says, “Come now, let us reason together, says the Lord. Though your sins are like scarlet, they shall be as white as snow.” In 1 John 1:9 we read: “If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness.”

    Jesus Himself assures us, “Whoever comes to me I will never drive away” (John 6:37). Our God is a compassionate and merciful God. He desires that no one should be lost, but that all should come to salvation through repentance and personal faith in Jesus as Savior and Lord (2 Peter 3:9; Acts 2:21).

    What is the unpardonable sin? I am afraid I may have committed it.


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    I Am the Lord! Besides Me there is no Savior. For there is no other name under Heaven given among men by which we must be saved. For God so loved the world that He gave His only begotten Son, that whoever believes in Him should not perish but have everlasting life. If you confess with your mouth that Jesus is Lord and believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead, you will be saved!...For in him we live, and move, and have our being!

    #131809
    No Other Rock
    No Other Rock
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    If I have a blasphemous thought pop into my mind, does God blame me for having it, or does he blame Satan,

    Terry, those thoughts that rise up are planted by the enemy. I believe he has an inroad to to so, because you have not firmly understood yet, that you have not committed the unpardonable sin. You had times of cursing God and the Holy Spirit which was sin, but not the unpardonable sin. But because you have never been sure, the enemy is toying with you, condemning you, and tormenting you in this area. You need to once and for all see and accept the difference between the two, and before God accept that you are not guilty of that unforgivable sin.

    When you finally have that settled within you, those blasphemous thoughts may fade away with your new found understanding, but if and when satan tries to suggest them to you, renounce/resist those thoughts he sends, and then replace them every time with scriptural truth. In that way, you are casting out what the enemy is tormenting you with, and replacing it with God-thoughts which overpower the lie’s, and I might say, torment satan!

    It is said that what enters the mind, can/will go down to the heart, where it can then be acted on – for good or evil. So you want to catch those thoughts from the enemy as he attempts to harass you with them, and stop them right at the mind level. Replacing the enemies thoughts immediately with the Word. It will set you free.

    I Am the Lord! Besides Me there is no Savior. For there is no other name under Heaven given among men by which we must be saved. For God so loved the world that He gave His only begotten Son, that whoever believes in Him should not perish but have everlasting life. If you confess with your mouth that Jesus is Lord and believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead, you will be saved!...For in him we live, and move, and have our being!

    #131815
    gobyebye
    gobyebye
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    Piece of apple, anyone?

    You mean I am not god?

    I cursed at God just the other week. I am in my late sixties, and receiving so much grace that i should be embarrassed!
    It helps me to picture myself as a horribly burned infant in the loving hands of the Great I Am Doctor. When I wail in pain, God doesn’t turn from me … Jesus is saving me! God is true!
    Unlike that clown offering you an apple.

    #131816

    Terry
    Participant

    Savedat33 and No Other Rock, you are so right in everything you said, very wise words, excellent responses from both of you! These words really helped me, thank you so much! This means so much to me! :rose: :heart: 🙂 I am so glad to know that I am definitely forgiven, and that I am saved, thanks to all of your responses in this thread. :yahoo:

    #131817
    No Other Rock
    No Other Rock
    Moderator

    Amen Terry!!

    I Am the Lord! Besides Me there is no Savior. For there is no other name under Heaven given among men by which we must be saved. For God so loved the world that He gave His only begotten Son, that whoever believes in Him should not perish but have everlasting life. If you confess with your mouth that Jesus is Lord and believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead, you will be saved!...For in him we live, and move, and have our being!

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