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    • #119214
      Yohanan
      Moderator

        Carry on!

        Previous thread here.

      • #119172
        Blue
        Member

          Here is more encouragement from Hourly Watch:

          -Fair Use-

           

        • #119176
          Todd Tomlinson
          Member

            I was walking through Costco on Monday and was singing this song (in my head) – but, I wanted to belt it out for everyone around me to hear.   I guess its one of those former worship leader syndrome issues — breaking out in spontaneous worship :-).   But this song is at the top of my internal play list these days — Jesus is Coming Back!  With the announcement coming out of the middle east within the next 24 hours – we’re closer than ever.

             

          • #119177
            KolleenWStone
            Moderator

              Sounds really good to me Jesus! :amen:
              Let’s do it soon Ok!? :rose: :bible :heart:

               

               

            • #119178
              Kent
              Member

                Great song Todd!  I am living in anticipation and excitement of being gone soon. You have to ask yourself “What are the chances?” concerning prophecy and world events. When these things begin to pass….  As far as I can tell after 53 years of watching, we are there. Not even nearly, but there.

              • #119196
                Tammie
                Member

                  The chorus “the King is coming has been stuck in my head for weeks now and this version from George Beverly shea is my favorite next to the Gaiter’s singing the same song

                • #119234
                  Geri9
                  Member

                    Keep looking up our redemption draws near :popcorn :popcorn :popcorn :popcorn :popcorn :popcorn :popcorn :popcorn

                     

                    Per Craig Bong

                    November 3rd
                    40 days until sudden destruction ….

                    The final countdown to the tribulation and the confirming of the Paris Agreement has begun. The fuse was lit on October 7th. The world will meet to confirm the Paris Agreement, November 30th through December 12th. Prophetically, the next several weeks should then bring about major events including the rapture of the church, :whistle: the prophecy against Damascus, the end of Iran’s nuclear capabilities, and the destruction of the Gog and Magog alliance beginning to build now. The world is about to enter a journey in a time never seen before.

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                    – Fair Use –

                     

                  • #119236
                    Geri9
                    Member

                      Someone asked how are the calendars off?

                       

                      Craig’s response

                      Constantine hated Passover and wanted the true Passover far from his beloved Easter celebration and by adjusting the Hebrew calendar by 3 months, it was impossible for those two dates to ever come close ever again. The calendar is off by three months. Josephus acknowledges in his Antiquities of the Jews, that Sukkot was inside their homes that time of year as it was winter and Leviticus 23:39 states that all harvests had to have been completed, aka winter.

                      – Fair Use –

                    • #119275
                      KolleenWStone
                      Moderator

                        Ret US Army Col Douglas Macgregor doesn’t believe we will have a 2024 election & Banks Close For Weeks. November 4, 2023

                        In this short clip, Col. Douglas MacGregor PBD and Tom discuss Donald Trump and the 2024 election.

                         

                      • #119294
                        Patricia N.
                        Member

                          I heard on the radio news or maybe an advertisement today that banks can close your account for basically any reason they want to.  It said, “Read the fine print!”

                        • #119298
                          Geri9
                          Member

                            21 minute clip .. its pretty informative update … worth your while to watch this one.

                            Non-Christian Watchmen Report that Aliens are on their Way to Save the Earth from Nuclear War!

                             

                            – Fair Use –

                          • #119301
                            Todd Tomlinson
                            Member

                              I had the opportunity to catch up face-to-face with a friend of mine from Kenya who is the pastor over 36 churches.  I quizzed him on pre-trib, mid-trib, and post-trib and his comment was that he doesn’t believe we will see the rapture in our lifetimes due to Matthew 24:14

                              And the Good News about the Kingdom will be preached throughout the whole world, so that all nations will hear it; and then the end will come. 14 All during this time, the good news – the Message of the kingdom – will be preached all over the world, a witness staked out in every country. And then the end will come.

                              His comments were that every person has to be given the opportunity to hear the Word and to make that conscious decision – but I don’t see that in that verse – thoughts?    Some believe that this verse is focused on the tribulation due to the last sentence “And then the end will come.”

                              • #119314
                                Tammie
                                Member

                                  How sad Todd that as a “preacher” over 36 churches he does not even understand the book of Roman’s and particularly Romans 1:20 “For his invisible attributes, namely, his eternal power and divine nature, have been clearly perceived, ever since the creation of the world, in the things that have been made. So they are without excuse.”

                                  For every human is without excuse of the Word of God, it is written in the stars (the wisemen saw it and followed it), it is written in the very fabric of our DNA, it is written in the entire creation. Many tribal folks have prayed to the God of Heaven knowing He is creator.

                                  What the truth is for this man and many others, they refuse to acknowledge God in His eternal power and Divine nature and they live for themselves — serving only as it is convenient for their life.

                                  Matthew 24 will occur during the tribulation, as Yohanan mentions below. I am sad for your friend who leads others. May God open His blind eyes, so true there are many kinds of blindness …. :prayer-hands:

                              • #119303
                                Yohanan
                                Moderator

                                  His comments were that every person has to be given the opportunity to hear the Word and to make that conscious decision
                                  His idea falls short when you consider how many multitudes of people throughout the world over the past 2000 years never had a Christian deliver the Word of God to them. God does not need man to deliver His Word. He chooses to use man for His purpose but that is not exclusive.

                                  Some believe that this verse is focused on the tribulation due to the last sentence “And then the end will come.”
                                  I agree with that. Matthew chapter 24 is not for the Church Age. It is for the Tribulation Age.

                                • #119306
                                  KolleenWStone
                                  Moderator

                                    16 Proofs of a Pre-Tribulation Rapture
                                    By Kent Crockett

                                    Proof #1: Revelation 19:11-21 doesn’t mention a resurrection.

                                    The rapture is a resurrection of those “in Christ” (1 Thess. 4:13-18). Isn’t it a little bit odd that in Rev. 19:11-21, which is the clearest picture of the second coming of Christ, there is no mention of a resurrection? The rapture will be the biggest event since the resurrection of Jesus where hundreds of millions of Christians will be resurrected and translated, yet there isn’t any mention here. Don’t you think it deserves at least one verse? The rapture isn’t mentioned because it doesn’t happen at the second coming.

                                    Proof #2: Zechariah 14:1-15 doesn’t mention a resurrection.

                                    This is an Old Testament picture of Jesus returning to earth at the second coming. Again, no mention of a resurrection.

                                    Proof #3: Two different pictures are painted.

                                    In the Old Testament, there were two different pictures painted of the Messiah-one suffering (Isa. 53:2-10, Ps. 22:6-8, 11-18) and one reigning as King (Ps. 2:6-12, Zech. 14:9,16). As we look back on these scriptures, we see they predicted two separate comings of the Messiah-the 1st coming as a suffering Messiah and the 2nd coming (still future) as a reigning King.

                                    In the New Testament, we have another picture added. Again, we have two pictures painted which don’t look the same. These two different descriptions of Jesus’ coming point to two separate events we call “the rapture” and “the second coming.”

                                    Proof #4: The Known Day and the Unknown Day

                                    Concerning the return of Jesus, the Bible presents a day we can’t know and a day we can know. Matthew 25:13 says Jesus will return at an unknown time, while Revelation 12:6 says the Jews will have to wait 1,260 days for the Lord to return. The 1,260 days begins when the Antichrist stands in the Temple and declares himself to be God (Matt. 24:15-21, 2 Thess. 2:4) This event will take place at the mid-point of the seven year Tribulation (Dan 9:27). The Antichrist has authority to rule for 42 months, which is 1,260 days (Rev. 13:4) and will be destroyed by Jesus at His second coming (Rev. 19:20, 2 Thess. 2:8). The known and unknown days must happen at different times, meaning they are two separate events.

                                    Proof #5: A door open in heaven (Revelation 4:1)

                                    The door in heaven is opened to let John into heaven. We believe John’s call into heaven is prophetic of the church being caught up at the rapture (see proof #6). In Revelation 19:11, heaven is opened again, this time to let the armies which are already in heaven out. This is the Church, which has been raptured at a previous time, following Jesus out of heaven at the second coming.

                                    Proof #6: “Come up here.” (Revelation 4:1)

                                    A voice called for the apostle John to “Come up here,” and immediately he was in heaven. This could be a prophetic reference to the rapture of the Church. The words “Come up here” are spoken to the two witnesses who are killed in the middle of the Tribulation, who are resurrected and ascend into heaven (Rev. 11:12). Therefore, the phrase “Come up here” could mean the church is raptured in Rev. 4:1. The word “church” is mentioned 22 times in Rev. 1-3, but is not mentioned again until Rev. 22:17.

                                    Proof #7: The 24 elders have their crowns.

                                    After John is called up into heaven, he sees the 24 elders with their crowns (Rev. 4:4-10). We know that Christians will receive their rewards (crowns) at the rapture (2 Tim. 4:8, 1 Pet. 5:4). We will be repaid at the resurrection of the righteous (Luke 14:14). The elders couldn’t receive their crowns unless the resurrection (rapture) has taken place.

                                    Proof #8: Holy ones are already with Jesus in heaven (Zech. 14:5, Rev. 19:14)

                                    The armies in heaven, clothed in fine linen, follow Jesus out of heaven at His second coming (Rev. 19:14, Zech. 14:5, Col. 3:4). These are not angels because Rev. 19:8 tells us the fine linen is the righteousness of the saints. In order to come out of heaven we first have to go in, indicating a previous rapture.

                                    Proof #9: Kept from the hour of testing (Rev. 3:10)

                                    Revelation 3:10 says we will be kept out of the hour of testing which will come upon the whole earth (the Tribulation). Some have wrongly believed “keep” means to keep through, or protect through the Tribulation. Suppose you approach a high voltage area with a sign that says, “Keep Out.” Does that mean you can enter and be protected? No, it means you are forbidden from entering the area. But this verse also says He will keep us from the hour of testing. It is not just the testing, but the time period. If a student is excused from a test, he still may have to sit in the class while others take the test. But if he is excused from the hour of testing, he can go home. The Church will be called home before the hour of testing.

                                    Proof #10: Angels don’t resurrect people when they gather them for judgment.

                                    When the angels are sent forth to gather the elect at the second coming (Matt. 24:29-31), some have wrongly interpreted this as the rapture. There is one huge problem with this interpretation. If we are resurrected at this time, why would we need angels to gather us? In the resurrection, we will be like the angels (Matt. 22:30), able to travel in the air at will. Obviously, these people who are gathered are not resurrected, therefore it can’t be the rapture. No one would claim the wicked are raptured at this time, yet Matthew 13:39-41, 49 says the angels will not only gather the elect, but also the wicked. This gathering is not a resurrection.

                                    Proof #11: Both the wicked and the righteous can’t be taken first.

                                    First Thessalonians 4:13-17 says the righteous are taken and the wicked are left behind. Matthew 13:30, 49 says the wicked are taken first and righteous are left behind. This points to two separate events, the rapture and the second coming.

                                    Proof #12: Jesus returns from the wedding.

                                    When Jesus returns to earth at the second coming, He will return from a wedding (Luke 12:36). At the rapture, Jesus is married to His bride, the Church. After the wedding, He will return to earth.

                                    Proof #13: Jesus will receive us to Himself, not us to receive Him (John 14:2-3).

                                    Jesus said He would prepare a place for the Church in heaven, then He would come again to receive us to Himself. Why would Jesus prepare a place for us in heaven and then not take us there? At the rapture, He will come to receive us to Himself, “that where I am (heaven), there you may be also.” If the rapture occurred at the same time as the second coming, we would go up to the clouds and then immediately come back to earth. That would contradict John 14:2-3.

                                    Proof #14: The one who restrains is taken out of the way.

                                    In 2 Thess. 2:6-7, Paul says “the one who restrains will be taken out of the way” before the Antichrist can be revealed. We believe this refers to the rapture because the Church is clearly the biggest obstacle to the Antichrist becoming a world ruler.

                                    Proof #15: The separation of the sheep and goats (Matt. 25:31-46)

                                    If the rapture occurred at the second coming, why would the sheep and the goats need to be separated immediately after the second coming? A rapture at the second coming would have already separated the sheep and the goats. With a Pre-Tribulation rapture, the people saved after the rapture will need to be separated after the second coming.

                                    Proof #16: Who will populate the Millennium?

                                    If the rapture occurs at the second coming and the wicked are cast into hell at that time, who will be left to populate the millennium? Only people in their natural (non-resurrected) bodies will be able to have children (Matt. 22:30). With a Pre-Tribulation rapture, the people saved after the rapture who are alive at the second coming will populate the earth during the Millennium.

                                    The Bible commands us to “WATCH.” Titus 2:13, “Looking for that blessed hope, and the glorious appearing of the great God and our Saviour Jesus Christ;”

                                    https://www.jesusisprecious.org/prophecy/watch.htm

                                    • #119309
                                      Todd Tomlinson
                                      Member

                                        Love that Kolleen….  My pastor friend and I went back and forth for an hour on the topic — I’m sticking with what I was raised on and believe it truth – pre-trib rapture. With all that is happening right now, the time is now – not decades from now.   And agree Yohanan!    I do however believe that every nation has heard!

                                    • #119308
                                      Geri9
                                      Member

                                        16 minutes

                                        Child Comet Positioning Sign of the Rapture Resurrection! Q&A With Robert Breaker!

                                        – Fair Use –

                                      • #119320
                                        Paul R
                                        Member

                                          This is probably nothing — but it might be something…

                                          During my quiet time with the Lord this morning, a song popped up in my head and I actually sang it. It’s and old classic rock ‘n roll ditty called Forty Days by Cliff Richard. The words are: “I’m gonna give you 40 days to get back…” and “I’m gonna see that you be back home in 40 days…“.

                                          I haven’t heard or even thought about this song for decades. I’m not claiming it to be prophetic, but the Lord has given me truthful insights in this way many times before, so I’m not discounting it. It might not even be about going to our real home, but what else can it be? I’m in my earthly home now.

                                          Today is November 7, so by my reckoning 40 days later is Sunday, December 17. Just thought I should share it with y’all.

                                          • #119339
                                            Tammie
                                            Member

                                              Paul — I will take it and today or tomorrow or the next day or the day after that day :mdrmdr:

                                              I hear ya! I have often gotten those little nudges from the Lord – so thankful our Heavenly Father loves His children…. :prayer-hands:

                                          • #119321
                                            Yohanan
                                            Moderator

                                              December 17th is a very good day to go home! Today would be better but if it’s the 17th I won’t complain. ;-) :yes:

                                            • #119326
                                              Yohanan
                                              Moderator

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                                              • #119330
                                                KolleenWStone
                                                Moderator

                                                  Now just add huge tears and it will be perfect!! ;-)

                                                   

                                                   

                                                • #119333
                                                  Geri9
                                                  Member

                                                    Short clip from Aaron

                                                     

                                                    I Found A Piano 🎹 In The City! Let’s Play When The Saints Go Marching In! Imprompt

                                                    – Fair Use –

                                                  • #119344
                                                    Lee Giblin
                                                    Member

                                                      A choir friend shared today she had a dream/vision of Jesus calling her Home last night!

                                                      My rapture dates are 11/9, 11/11, and 11/13 for now.   I hope we are gone before 12/21 Winter.

                                                      Hope to see y’all soon!

                                                    • #119345
                                                      Rick Jones
                                                      Member

                                                        Craig Bong posted a detailed article about King Charles. It’s titled “A LOOK AT BIBLICAL PROPHECY AND ITS FULFILLMENT IN THE RISE OF KING CHARLES”

                                                        You can view the article if you’ve friended Craig on Facebook. I will add a link to Craig’s profile. If you don’t want to join his profile, I downloaded a text copy of the article. I could create a pdf file copy. I don’t know if I can upload a file. Perhaps Yohanan can let me know if it’s possible. It’s a very long article so I don’t know if it would fit in a Ritan window.

                                                        https://www.facebook.com/craig.bong.39

                                                      • #119346
                                                        KolleenWStone
                                                        Moderator

                                                          2. Please do not try to name the Anti-Christ.
                                                          (Click “About Us” at the top of the page)

                                                          This is one of the Rita Now rules Rick, and why it wouldn’t be allowed to bring said Article to our site, either here or at our RN Facebook site.

                                                          You gave the link here to Craig Bongs Facebook site where members are welcome to go to read the article.

                                                          They can also Subscribe to him on YouTube, if they haven’t done so already.

                                                          Feel free to share links only here though, to any of his or others articles or video’s, if or when they mention or suggest who the AC may be, or likely is.

                                                           

                                                        • #119350
                                                          Paul R
                                                          Member

                                                            If you ask me nicely, I will reveal to you who is the Anti-antichrist… :heart:

                                                             

                                                          • #119370
                                                            Rick Jones
                                                            Member

                                                              Thanks Kolleen, I was not aware of the rule.

                                                            • #119374
                                                              Geri9
                                                              Member

                                                                Starts @ 3:31 – 19:00

                                                                Nuclear War Drums are Beating High Watch for this Sat Nov 11th! 11/11!

                                                                – Fair Use –

                                                              • #119397
                                                                Geri9
                                                                Member

                                                                  And another high watch date to add :mail:  December 8th (first day of Hanukkah) 

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                                                                • #119417
                                                                  Lee Giblin
                                                                  Member

                                                                    One of my big considerations for a possible rapture date is the New Moon.

                                                                    A ‘thief in the night’ would be more hidden without the moon’s light.  Nov 13 and Dec 12 are on my calendar and the Dec New Moon is during Hanukkah.

                                                                    This world is getting more evil especially after Tues elections for abortions in many states.

                                                                    Hope to meet you all soon. :flyup:

                                                                  • #119426
                                                                    Kent
                                                                    Member

                                                                      It sure seems that we are in the Rapture Waiting Room, and we are about to be delivered out of this chaotic world. One thing for certain, we are sure feeling like strangers here as things get more bizarre daily. This is not our home. The “world” won’t realize the stability and cohesiveness that the Church provided until we are gone. Then it’s ALL theirs. They can “Have at it.”

                                                                    • #119427
                                                                      Kent
                                                                      Member

                                                                        As was mentioned in a recent Uptime video posted by Geri, in the meantime we must keep on the whole armor of God.

                                                                      • #119428
                                                                        Kent
                                                                        Member

                                                                          And furthermore, in my opinion 😊, we must be engaging in prayer, praise, reading the Word, and fellowship when we can. Rita is one great place for that. Keep looking up!

                                                                        • #119429
                                                                          Tiffany Scheuerman
                                                                          Member

                                                                            I wake up each day wondering if this will be the day, however then I remember the verse in Peter that says He is not slow in keeping His promise… He is patient not wanting anyone perish. As the world gets darker and darker I keep thinking this is the year! … especially because of the verse in Luke 17 that states people are eating and drinking and marrying right up to the day Noah entered the ark. Things will be somewhat normal when the rapture happens. Please Yeshua come quickly and help us occupy and love you and others well and tell others about You until you come! Please come on Saturday or Monday when the new moon happens! :yahoo: :yahoo: :yahoo: :yahoo:

                                                                          • #119433
                                                                            Tiffany Scheuerman
                                                                            Member

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                                                                            • #119472
                                                                              Geri9
                                                                              Member

                                                                                From Aaron

                                                                                Hidden In Daniel 9:26 2520 Days Mentioned Before Daniel’s 70th Week Rapture Soon!

                                                                                 

                                                                                – Fair Use –

                                                                              • #119477
                                                                                Geri9
                                                                                Member

                                                                                  Short 2:22 clip from Makaio

                                                                                  666 already On Their foreheads and hands!   Is THIS the Mark of the Beast?

                                                                                   

                                                                                  – Fair Use –

                                                                                   

                                                                                  Keep in mind the AC embraces the muslim/Jewish/catholic faith …  aka “Chrislam”

                                                                                • #119483
                                                                                  Patricia N.
                                                                                  Member

                                                                                    Thousands Line Up for the Chance to Get Elon Musk’s Neuralink Chip Installed in Their Brain:

                                                                                    Thousands of people have reportedly shown interest in participating in the FDA-approved human trials of the brain-computer interface developed by Elon Musk’s Neuralink. Test participants will have a computer chip installed in their brain, and can only hope for better results than Musk’s test monkeys, many of which suffered a gruesome fate.

                                                                                    Neuralink’s ambitious project aims to create a symbiosis between humans and machines, allowing for direct communication and control via thought. While the initial focus is on aiding individuals with neurological disorders, such as those with paralysis due to spinal cord injuries or amyotrophic lateral sclerosis (ALS), the long-term vision extends to broader applications including message sending or game playing using only thoughts.

                                                                                    The process involves a craniectomy — the removal of a portion of the skull — followed by the insertion of the brain chip and an ultra-thin array of about 64 threads by a robot. These threads, thinner than a strand of human hair, would then interface with the brain. The chip, designed to sit behind the ear, would replace the portion of the skull that is removed during the operation.

                                                                                    Despite Musk’s interest in rushing into an era of brain chips for humans, major red flags have been raised throughout Neuralink’s animal testing. As Breitbart News previously reported:

                                                                                    Ryan Merkley, the director of research advocacy for a medical ethics committee focusing on animal rights, has expressed grave concerns regarding the safety of Neuralink’s device. “Patients should have serious concerns about the safety of Neuralink’s device,” Merkley warns, highlighting well-documented reports of hasty and careless experiments conducted on animals. The committee, which boasts over 17,000 doctor members, has urged potential Neuralink volunteers to reconsider their applications seriously.

                                                                                    The U.S. Food and Drug Administration (FDA) had previously echoed these concerns, denying Neuralink’s requests to commence human clinical trials. The concerns were primarily centered around the potential migration of the implant’s electrodes within the brain and complications arising from the removal of the device, potentially causing irreversible brain damage. Despite these initial reservations, FDA approval was eventually granted in May 2023.

                                                                                    https://www.breitbart.com/tech/2023/11/11/thousands-line-up-for-the-chance-to-get-elon-musks-neuralink-chip-installed-in-their-brain/

                                                                                    • #119484
                                                                                      Sonya
                                                                                      Member

                                                                                        Yeah Patricia I heard about that.. Why would anybody cut off half their brain to insert anything in it?! That’s so creepy!!

                                                                                    • #119493
                                                                                      Blue
                                                                                      Member

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                                                                                      • #119495
                                                                                        Blue
                                                                                        Member

                                                                                          That didn’t work!  I tried to copy text from Craig Bong’s Facebook page and just got gibberish.  Craig announced King Charles is to have peace talks with Arab leaders later this month!!!  WooHoo!  Can anyone get it to copy?  Thanks!

                                                                                        • #119497
                                                                                          Blue
                                                                                          Member

                                                                                            Craig says read more here: https://www.pressreader.com/uk/the-mail-on-sunday/20231112/281715504336932

                                                                                            -Fair Use-

                                                                                            • #119498
                                                                                              Geri9
                                                                                              Member

                                                                                                Nice find, Blue! :good:

                                                                                                The Pressreader link wanted me to down load an app.  I didn’t want to do that so I was able to find the Daily Mail article.  Here it is …

                                                                                                 

                                                                                                Daily Mail
                                                                                                Nov 12, 2023
                                                                                                By Natasha Livingstone  Royal Correspondent

                                                                                                 

                                                                                                King Charles will hold talks with Arabs leaders this month to discuss a road map for peace in Gaza, The Mail on Sunday can reveal.

                                                                                                He is hoping his close working and personal ties to Arab royals might boost diplomatic initiatives and is holding bilateral discussions, according to sources.  It is understood the meetings will take place in Dubai ahead of the COP28 climate summit, beginning on November 30, where Charles will deliver an opening address on December 1.

                                                                                                Sources told the MOS that Charles will use the visit to hold talks with regional leaders to “promote interfaith harmony and dialogue”.

                                                                                                Experts think he will try to “nudge diplomacy efforts forward” by discussing the release of Israeli hostages and more humanitarian aid.

                                                                                                Charles will act as a respected global statesman.  He has long been profoundly interested in the Arab world.  It is known he believes the West only stands a chance of winning the war on terror by dealing with the Israeli-Palestine question, which he refers to as “the real toxin” infecting the whole world.

                                                                                                The king is well respected in the Gulf States and Middle East, not least for his sympathetic speeches about Islam.  He has studied the Koran and has even learnt Arabic.

                                                                                                The Royal Family also maintain relationships with rules in the Middle East through horse racing.  Last summer Charles and Camilla were pictures at Royal Ascot with the Crown Prince of Dubai, Sheikh Hamadan bin Mohammed.

                                                                                                The conflict in Gaza disrupted a US-brokered deal between Israel and Saudi Arabia that would have normalized relations between the countries, bringing Saudi Arabia more firmly into the US security fold and eliciting Israeli commitments on the Palestinian issue.

                                                                                                The MoS understands that while Charles may not meeting directly with Saudi Arabia’s Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman (MBS) he could communicate with him by proxy through the King of Bahrain and the Sultan of Oman.  In August, it was reported the Saudi Prince was set to officially visit the UK later this year, when King Charles would entertain him.

                                                                                                A source said, The King is very concerned about the issue and, while he is in the Middle East, he is taking the chance to have bilateral talks.  Is the purpose of COP to sort out the Middle East crisis? No.  But it’s a chance to continue listening and attempting to promote as much interfaith and inter community harmony and dialogue as he can in the shared ambition for a peaceful outcome.

                                                                                                Last week Buckingham Palace confirmed the King would have meeting with regional leaders ahead of COP28 but did not reveal the topics they would discuss. Palace aides said they hoped the King’s unique ability to bring people together will help find solutions.  Charles also has a strong relationship with the British Jewish community and in 2020 became the most senior Royal to pay an official visit to Israel and the occupied Palestinian Territories.

                                                                                                Professor Yossi Mekelberg, an associate fellow at Chatham House, said “King Charles will do his best to nudge diplomacy efforts forward and bring shades of grey into the discussion that is tainted by complete polarization.”

                                                                                                “While he cannot overstep the UK Government line, he can emphasize the need to release the Israeli hostages and push for ensuring more humanitarian aid enters Gaza”.

                                                                                                Prof Mekelberg added the King will encourage discussion about the bigger picture by talking about the need to end the conflict through an agreement based on a two-state solution.  He added “we have to be realistic about how much difference King Charles can make, but his words are powerful as monarch of an important member of the UN Security Council”.

                                                                                                The meetings will continue Charles’s efforts on home soil.  Four days after the October 7 Hamas attacks, which he condemned as “barbaric acts of terrorism”, the King spoke to Israeli President Isaac Herzog and Jordan’s King Abdullah to express his concerns for those who were suffering.  The next day he met Britain’s Chief Rabbi at Buckingham Palace to discuss the impact of the attacks on the UK’s Jewish population.

                                                                                                During his Mansion House address on October 18, the King stressed the importance of “tolerance and civility” at times “of global turmoil and heartbreaking loss of life”.  Two weeks later he had a private meeting with the Crown Prince of Kuwait, where they also discussed the Israel-Gaza conflict.

                                                                                                Last night Buckingham Palace declined to comment.

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                                                                                                • #119518
                                                                                                  Patricia N.
                                                                                                  Member

                                                                                                    Last night my husband and I were watching a taped version of “60 Minutes.”

                                                                                                    There was a segment about a famous motorcycle race on the Isle of Man located between Ireland and Britain where they close down all the streets to regular traffic and the bikes run through the roads and towns.

                                                                                                    They happened to mention that one of Charles’ titles is “The King of Man.”

                                                                                                    Creepy!

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                                                                                                Geri9
                                                                                                Member

                                                                                                  3 minute “watchers pep rally” with Aaron

                                                                                                  Jesus Style Old Time Rock & Roll Bob Seger With A Pre-trib Rendezvous! Cover Lyrics Andrew Wissman

                                                                                                  – Fair Use –

                                                                                                  So when do we fly away? :mail:    Today is November 12th we got exactly 1 month before the peace accords gets signed/confirmed on December 12th :whistle:

                                                                                                   

                                                                                                • #119504
                                                                                                  Rick Jones
                                                                                                  Member

                                                                                                    December seems like a good month. December 12 is the darkest night of the month, it fits the thief in the night message. It’s the day the evil ones will present their plan of bondage.

                                                                                                    December 12

                                                                                                    • #119505
                                                                                                      Geri9
                                                                                                      Member

                                                                                                        Makes perfect sense with the “the thief in the night December theme”  and holleyweird has been giving us a heads up /cluing us for years with “How the Grinch Stole Christmas” :yes:

                                                                                                        But we are watching and ready! :popcorn :popcorn :popcorn :popcorn :popcorn :popcorn

                                                                                                    • #119506
                                                                                                      Rick Jones
                                                                                                      Member

                                                                                                        December 12 is the 6th day of Hanukkah, I suppose if the Church was removed from the Earth in the middle of Hanukkah, Israel would feel very alone.

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                                                                                                        Rick Jones
                                                                                                        Member

                                                                                                          Sorry, I was off by one day, December 12 is the 5th day of Hanukkah. The exciting thing about that is the fifth lamp represents Feast of Trumpets.

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                                                                                                          Yohanan
                                                                                                          Moderator

                                                                                                            The exciting thing about that is the fifth lamp represents Feast of Trumpets.

                                                                                                            Interesting point, Rick!

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                                                                                                            Geri9
                                                                                                            Member

                                                                                                              About 28 minute clip

                                                                                                              Days Shortened for the Tribulation! No One Knows the Day & Hour Taken out of Context!

                                                                                                              – Fair Use –

                                                                                                               

                                                                                                            • #119548
                                                                                                              dave dave
                                                                                                              Member

                                                                                                                I like November 19, 2023 as a rapture high watch date.  11/19/23 is very similar to Lisa’s Vision of 11192

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                                                                                                                churchgal
                                                                                                                Member

                                                                                                                  Okay, here’s a thought. We have always assumed that Jesus will return in the second coming at feast or trumpets or day of atonement……but it will be very hard to see new moons when the sun and moon are darkened after the bowl judgments…..and in truth, Jesus has fulfilled atonement as His sacrifice is our atonement and the cross and resurrection are complete. Maybe it is near that time that the Jews that find the truth and weep for Him begin to say “Blessed is He Who comes in the name of the Lord” and then (just my guestimate) Jesus returns with us to tabernacle with them in person…..First I believe that the Lord does not have to return on a feast day, not at all. However looking at what is going on in the world at the present moment does make me want to do a little math… :mdrmdr:   If Jesus returns on the first day of tabernacles in 2030 which will be Oct 12th, or the last day of assembly which would be Oct 20th ( I did make sure this was after fall equinox in Israel for those nerds like me who wonder these things…lol) This would indicate that the covenant would start anywhere from Nov. 18th- Nov. 26th…..so there’s that; and while I love some good math and numbers….nothing and I mean nothing is giving me more hope of Jesus coming soon then the signs of the soon coming tribulation all around us. Let it be today Lord :prayer-hands:

                                                                                                                • #119571
                                                                                                                  Geri9
                                                                                                                  Member

                                                                                                                    I hope we do leave any day now …

                                                                                                                    but if … still here after Nov 26th … well we still have this on the horizon:

                                                                                                                     

                                                                                                                    COP28 – the UN climate change conference – in Dubai  begins November 30th.  The confirming of the Paris 7 year Agreement is scheduled to occur on December 11-12, 2023.  (Dec 12th is the new moon)

                                                                                                                     

                                                                                                                    So with Lisa’s vision numbers 11192 … unscramble them …

                                                                                                                    12/11 … and the 9  I’m not sure what to do with that number … perhaps the signing of the agreement happens on the 9th hour?  And then I saw this intriguing comment … perhaps it represents  this? :unsure:

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                                                                                                                    One watcher posted …

                                                                                                                    I was reading Jeremiah today where this prophet is trying to get thru to the King and God tells him to have his scribe write a scroll and deliver it to Jeconiah (may have the wrong king or spelling here). Anyway, the king is warming himself by the fire in the 9th month and he end up using a pen knife to cut the Word of God up and burns it in the fire. So I looked up the 9th month on the Jewish calendar and it’s Kislev or our November-December. Wikipedia further tells us the sign of Kislev is the centaur (horse/man) drawing a bow with an arrow. That took my breath away. Is this the first horseman with the bow bringing peace? –  Fair Use –

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                                                                                                                      Sonya
                                                                                                                      Member

                                                                                                                        “Geri says, God tells him to have his scribe write a scroll and deliver it to Jeconiah (may have the wrong king or spelling here).”

                                                                                                                        Yeah they may have, because I never heard of Jeconiah! ROFL!

                                                                                                                    • #119573
                                                                                                                      Rick Jones
                                                                                                                      Member

                                                                                                                        I think Geri was referring to Jeremiah 36 where Jehoiakim burns Jeremiah’s scroll. Jer 36:22 “Now the king was sitting in the winter house in the ninth month, with a fire burning in the brazier before him.” Looks like Jehoiakim didn’t like the message about the king of Babylon coming to destroy his land, so he burned the scroll up. That put Jehoiakim on God’s naughty list which then made him jeconiah the unknown.

                                                                                                                        • #119579
                                                                                                                          Geri9
                                                                                                                          Member

                                                                                                                            Yep … to be frank I just quoted another watcher about the disgrace, King Jeconiah (of Judah) .. he was only king of Judah for 3 months and 10 days. Must of been the shortest reign ever?

                                                                                                                             

                                                                                                                            According to Wikipedia … he had a few nicknames …

                                                                                                                            Jeconiahalso known as Coniah and as Jehoiachin was the nineteenth  king of Judah who was dethroned by the King of Babylon, Nebuchadnezzar.  He only reigned for 3 months and 10 days. 

                                                                                                                             

                                                                                                                            The curse 

                                                                                                                            Jeremiah (22:28–30) cursed Jeconiah that none of his descendants would ever sit on the throne of Israel:

                                                                                                                            This is what the LORD says: ‘Record this man as if childless, a man who will not prosper in his lifetime, for none of his offspring will prosper, none will sit on the throne of David or rule anymore in Judah. (Jeremiah 22:30)
                                                                                                                            Chapter 1, verses 11–12 of the Gospel of Matthew lists Jeconiah in the lineage of Jesus Christ, through Joseph.  If Joseph was the biological father of Jesus, then Jesus could not rightfully claim to be the Messiah as the curse of Jeconiah would apply to Him. – per Wikipedia

                                                                                                                             

                                                                                                                            But we know Jesus had God’s blood. :whistle:

                                                                                                                             

                                                                                                                             

                                                                                                                            Matthew 1

                                                                                                                            1 The book of the generation of Jesus Christ, the son of David, the son of Abraham.

                                                                                                                            2 Abraham begat Isaac; and Isaac begat Jacob; and Jacob begat Judas and his brethren;

                                                                                                                            3 And Judas begat Phares and Zara of Thamar; and Phares begat Esrom; and Esrom begat Aram;

                                                                                                                            4 And Aram begat Aminadab; and Aminadab begat Naasson; and Naasson begat Salmon;

                                                                                                                            5 And Salmon begat Booz of Rachab; and Booz begat Obed of Ruth; and Obed begat Jesse;

                                                                                                                            6 And Jesse begat David the king; and David the king begat Solomon of her that had been the wife of Urias;

                                                                                                                            7 And Solomon begat Roboam; and Roboam begat Abia; and Abia begat Asa;

                                                                                                                            8 And Asa begat Josaphat; and Josaphat begat Joram; and Joram begat Ozias;

                                                                                                                            9 And Ozias begat Joatham; and Joatham begat Achaz; and Achaz begat Ezekias;

                                                                                                                            10 And Ezekias begat Manasses; and Manasses begat Amon; and Amon begat Josias;

                                                                                                                            11 And Josias begat Jechonias and his brethren, about the time they were carried away to Babylon: ;-)  

                                                                                                                            12 And after they were brought to Babylon, Jechonias begat Salathiel; and Salathiel begat Zorobabel;

                                                                                                                            13 And Zorobabel begat Abiud; and Abiud begat Eliakim; and Eliakim begat Azor;

                                                                                                                            14 And Azor begat Sadoc; and Sadoc begat Achim; and Achim begat Eliud;

                                                                                                                            15 And Eliud begat Eleazar; and Eleazar begat Matthan; and Matthan begat Jacob;

                                                                                                                            16 And Jacob begat Joseph the husband of Mary, of whom was born Jesus, who is called Christ.

                                                                                                                            17 So all the generations from Abraham to David are fourteen generations; and from David until the carrying away into Babylon are fourteen generations; and from the carrying away into Babylon unto Christ are fourteen generations.

                                                                                                                             

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                                                                                                                          Yohanan
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                                                                                                                            Greg
                                                                                                                            Member

                                                                                                                              On Jeconiah –I’ve read this article from Chuck Missler several times and really enjoy it, especially the imagery of God saying to His angels watch this:  https://www.khouse.org/articles/1998/73/

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                                                                                                                              Geri9
                                                                                                                              Member

                                                                                                                                I think we are seeing the fulfillment of this prophecy …  Matthew 24:4-5 And Jesus answered and said unto them, Take heed that no man deceive you. For many shall come in my name, saying, I am Christ; and shall deceive many.

                                                                                                                                I immediately thought of that warning after reading this article …

                                                                                                                                 

                                                                                                                                NTEB

                                                                                                                                by Geoffrey Grider

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                                                                                                                                The TikTok profile Daily Believer has 70 videos with a computer-generated AI Jesus looking directly at the viewer, beseeching them to stop scrolling and watch the next minute’s worth of content.

                                                                                                                                Everywhere you look, you see lost people preparing themselves to receive Antichrist, and this is perhaps no more evident anywhere in the world than it is on the Communist Chinese social media propaganda platform knowns as TikTok. The last 100 years could aptly be called the ‘technology century’, but when you throw AI into the mix, progress quickly becomes revolution. A TikTok channel called Daily Believerwants you to ‘believe’ in the AI Jesus, and ‘receive his message’. Don’t.

                                                                                                                                “Lest Satan should get an advantage of us: for we are not ignorant of his devices.” 2 Corinthians 2:11

                                                                                                                                You can ‘welcome Jesus into your home’, light candles, pray to the saints, recite positive affirmations and even post scripture, but none of this prevents you from going to Hell when you die if you haven’t believed the gospel of the kingdom of God that Paul preached. Roman Catholics put bumper stickers on their cars with an image of the eucharist monstrance and the words ‘I Believe’ referring to the monstrance. You won’t find that anywhere in your Bible, any Bible, in either Testament. What this lost world wants is goodness without the God of the Bible, and salvation without scripture. AI Jesus may have millions of views, but you’ll never hear even one verse of scripture. That’s the Devil.

                                                                                                                                From STUDY FINDS: All these Jesuses are long-haired and bearded, recalling artist Warner Sallman’s ubiquitous 1940 painting “Head of Christ.” Some wear the crown of thorns, some look alarmingly like the actor Jared Leto. Nearly all promise a surprise or “good news soon” in exchange for the viewer liking, commenting “Amen” or sharing it with their friends and family. With this digital outreach, the Daily Believer has gained, as of Nov. 13, 2023, 813,200 followers and over 9.2 million likes.

                                                                                                                                “Welcome Jesus into Your Home” is among the Daily Believer’s most popular videos, with over 22.2 million subscribers. According to the computer-generated Jesus, if the viewer believes in God, they must share this video with their friends and family and comment “I believe.”

                                                                                                                                If they do, they will receive a blessing within an hour. If they do not, computer-generated Jesus issues a thinly veiled threat of damnation by quoting Matthew 3:10, which has John the Baptist saying, “Even now the ax is lying at the root of the trees; every tree therefore that does not bear good fruit is cut down and thrown into the fire.”

                                                                                                                                – Fair Use –

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                                                                                                                                Earthangel
                                                                                                                                Member

                                                                                                                                  Here are some reasons to consider Hanukah as the time of the rapture:

                                                                                                                                  https://www.fivedoves.com/letters/nov2021/lisat1128.htm

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                                                                                                                                  Tiffany Scheuerman
                                                                                                                                  Member

                                                                                                                                    The full moon this month on November 27th is called a beaver moon (last full moon before winter) and last year’s beaver moon was on November 11th and it was a blood moon lunar eclipse full moon – 🤔 not sure if there’s much significance here but wouldn’t it be incredible if it is truly our designated time to see our Savior?? prayer-hands: :prayer-hands:

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                                                                                                                                    Yohanan
                                                                                                                                    Moderator

                                                                                                                                      COP28 11/30/23- 12/12/23! Utopia on Earth! Kick off to Tribulation?

                                                                                                                                      9 minutes

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                                                                                                                                      Geri9
                                                                                                                                      Member

                                                                                                                                        Yeehaw!   Excellent  9 Minute clip! :good:   Only the wise watcher can see our time is literally about up! :whistle:

                                                                                                                                        And we are not giving up on leaving in 2023 … :popcorn :popcorn :popcorn :popcorn

                                                                                                                                        Love this meme …

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                                                                                                                                        – Fair Use –

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                                                                                                                                        Yohanan
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