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September 20, 2023 at 10:25 am #116810
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September 20, 2023 at 10:25 am #116697
Terry
MemberOf course you’re all invited. And when my friend Sue fries chicken with her special recipe for all of us. She said she told God We need to go; I have to fry chicken!
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September 20, 2023 at 12:44 pm #116703
Terry
MemberThanks. I thought the lay-a-way analogy was pretty cool too.
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September 20, 2023 at 4:06 pm #116704
Kent
MemberThanks for all of the above info fellow Ritans . So…..
It looks like the Day of Atonement/Feast of Trumpets could be the Day of the Rapture. Jesus would be fulfilling two Feasts at once, leaving Tabernacle for the end of the Tribulation. I remember the ‘73 war. Seems like yesterday. If that truly was a Jubilee Year 50 years ago, and Leviticus says Trumpets is celebrated on Atonement during a Jubilee, and Atonement is a door opened (Revelation 4:1) and was the only time the priest could go into the Holy of Holies, then we could be airlifted outta here soon. And think about all of the other things occurring in the sky and on Earth. I almost want to just call it. 🙌🏻
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September 20, 2023 at 6:16 pm #116709
Geri9
MemberHigh Watch Through the Days of Awe till
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September 21, 2023 at 10:27 am #116744
Bill Joseph
MemberI spent some time on this video yesterday it is so amazing! I wrote on the screenshot so I could email it to some family members. It’s just so crazy how these asteroids & comets particular #’s identifies them with Biblical names via Strongs. I’m not a dentist so I don’t know how to pull teeth, but I’ll still send it out to them.
If it is possible to understand timing within a matter of days for the rapture, then this would have to be it.
I ask the Lord if He is going to take us out this year that He would please give me a rapture dream tonight (Last night) lo and behold, I had a rapture dream last night. In my dream I was looking at the Torah Calendar up close & one of the days had written on it the word Rapture.
I’m believing for it. Also, where God a Minute explains how the math adds up for Jesus to return in 2030. How can it not happen now?
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September 21, 2023 at 10:43 am #116748
Yohanan
ModeratorI don’t think any of us have ever seen so many signs that the rapture is upon us like we are seeing right now. It’s amazing how many choices we have between now and the end of the year. Goodness, just between now and the end of September!
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September 21, 2023 at 10:47 am #116749
Terry
MemberAnd if Gates, Fauci, and Schwab, and Harari, have their way, no flesh would survive, and soon!
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September 21, 2023 at 10:58 am #116750
Bill Joseph
MemberI just started watching this video, where Bob reads, we are justified not by works but by faith in Christ Jesus alone. Cannot be justified by works, amen & amen.
So many times, I’ve heard, & sure u guys have too, where someone says, what will the Lord find you doing at the time of the rapture? As if you better not be sinning! or else.
God showed me some time ago in a dream with two floating circles, and in those circles was multitudes of people, and up close in the 2nd circle was another neighbor that I haven’t talked about here before. And the narrator said to me, the people in this circle will go too.
The 1st circle was ppl that we all expect would go in the rapture and the 2nd one was the opposite but are believers, struggling with their sin operating in the flesh.
Often times I have like this voice talking to me explaining something that I’m looking at, sometimes it’s the Holy Spirit & other times it’s an angel & I just know which it is.
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September 21, 2023 at 11:05 am #116751
Yohanan
Moderatorwhat will the Lord find you doing at the time of the rapture? As if you better not be sinning! or else.
I know. That makes me crazy! “Better get all cleaned up or Jesus will disown you!”
We all sin every single day by thought, word, or deed. By the things we have done and the things we should have done but didn’t. The people who had better get right with God are those who have not accepted Jesus as their Savior, not those of us who already have.
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September 21, 2023 at 11:07 am #116752
Terry
MemberFrom Jack Kelley:
Ephesians 1:13-14 says that when we first heard the gospel and believed it, we were saved and the Holy Spirit was sealed within us, a deposit guaranteeing our inheritance. 2 Cor. 1:21-22 concurs, adding that it’s God who makes us stand, having set His seal of ownership on us. This happened before we had done anything good to earn it or anything bad to disqualify ourselves. If we were sincere in our belief, and intellectually mature enough to understand the issue, the work of salvation was finished for us at that moment.
Over and over the Bible compares us to sheep. Sheep are always wandering off and getting themselves into trouble. And it’s a known fact that they can’t find their own way back. That’s why they need a shepherd. It’s his job to find them and bring them back at the proper time. Our Shepherd is Jesus (John 10:11), and He does the same for us. When it’s time to go, He’ll round us all up and take us home. He’s promised that He’ll lose none of those who the Father has given to Him (John 6:39-40).
The partial Rapture theory is false doctrine. It’s an attempt to mix works with Grace, which is impossible. A person is either saved or not, and everyone saved goes in the Rapture.
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September 21, 2023 at 11:52 am #116753
Geri9
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Feast of Trumpets Ruled Out! Now We
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September 21, 2023 at 2:39 pm #116773
Bill Joseph
MemberI know, right. I used to think that way too.
We have three enemies to deal with every day in our walk. Our own heart, which is wicked, the world, which is wicked and Satan which obviously he’s wicked.
Sin is a constant battle, there’s days we win and days we don’t so much, but Gods Holy Spirit draws us back to walking more uprightly. Not for salvation but for freedom from bondage so we don’t dampen our joy.
The moment when I notice that I’ve been doing alright in my walk & start to be pleased with myself thats when I fall into some type of temptation where sin is now a struggle for me, then I yearn to get back where I was before but it’s a season until I’m back in good fellowship again. Those seasons of turbulence get shorter and shorter, the work of the Holy Spirit.
I personally guard myself against thinking I’m doing good. Thats the opposite of what the world teaches. Same with trading, the minute I think I’m good, the market humbles me, and it hurts.
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September 21, 2023 at 3:06 pm #116778
Yohanan
ModeratorYes! I couldn’t agree with you more. Especially “The moment when I notice that I’ve been doing alright in my walk & start to be pleased with myself that’s when I fall into some type of temptation” So true. Pride goes before destruction!
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September 22, 2023 at 12:50 pm #116891
Bill Joseph
MemberMost indeed. Haughty pride that is. Even when you are walking on solid ground, you still need to watch your step lest you fall. I also like:
1 Cor 10:12 Wherefore let him that thinketh he standeth take heed lest he fall.
Prov 3:26 For the LORD will be your confidence, And will keep your foot from being caught. (Caught in a snare)
I love listening to the Puritans, their sermons are read out loud from transcripts.
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Directions for a comfortable walk with God, abandon your beloved sin. By Puritan Robert Bolton.
“For as long as the power and mortification destroys your sinful affections and so long as you are un- faintly displeased with all sin and do mortify the deeds of the body by the Spirit, your case is the case of salvation.”
“A good conscience stands not with a purpose of sinning nor not with an irresolution against sin.”
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-nozNityCTQ
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September 22, 2023 at 1:16 pm #116892
Bill Joseph
MemberI like this one right here, #10
“In the darkness and discomforts of the night, if you are suddenly awakened with some dreadful thunder, lightning or terrible tempest, the guilt and accusations of your beloved sin or want to come into your mind in the first place and with the greatest terror.”
LOL thats good, if that aint the truth when you’ve been up to no good. I’ve been there, looking behind me because of the crowd I ran with. Not knowing if my # was up. These are deep sermons, boy.
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September 22, 2023 at 1:23 pm #116893
Yohanan
ModeratorI like that! Reminds me a little of A.W. Tozer. He didn’t mince words either. Lol!
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September 22, 2023 at 1:56 pm #116896
Bill Joseph
MemberA.W. Tozer? I’m going to go check him out. Thanks, my brother. I love heavy sermons. I listen over and over.
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September 22, 2023 at 1:51 pm #116895
Bill Joseph
MemberHere’s what we all go thru from time to time. This is good!
When we are drawn back into our beloved sin by the cunningness of Satan, and he abhors himself with dust and ashes & is exceedingly vile, cry’s more mightily to God in a day of humiliation for the return of his reconciled countenance.
If a pastor preaches like this today, he would be kicked out the back door so quick! lol
https://youtube.com/clip/UgkxTy-q16Qi9I7eo21P4ZqZbiO-pI0GR5eA?si=OHOd-377eJKkdrj1
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September 22, 2023 at 2:01 pm #116897
Yohanan
ModeratorYes, good solid Biblical teaching is very rare these days.
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September 21, 2023 at 6:21 pm #116809
Donna
MemberOh, blessed is our God and His Loving Compassion, through Jesus. Our Lord very much stirring our spirits for the catching away . . may it be today the RITAN call from you oh jesus our Adored God and Savior . .
Oh! Glory to our God we are His children ! ~ ~ Father, we are thankful how You made new, a creation in Christ Jesus belonging to our Most High God !. . . . . . . we desire to breathe in Your gifted Spirit of joy, grace and favor, oh Jesus, for saving us, for making a Heavenly Bride eternally kept in Your provision of mercies and lovingkindness. ~ ~
~ So unimaginable yet true, IS Your Glory and Power. . Thank You Lord, for reminding us You never let us go . . , we sense Your return so overwhelmingly and seriously near . . . . and even so, any second now, may we hear Your words : “Arise My fair one, enter into the glory of Your Father’s Heart and Home. . . ~ ~ oh, feeling stirred in Spirit, desirous to gaze on You, Jesus, hold us close ever within Christ’s Majestic Light, ar(rested) in the power of Your Holy Spirit’s indwelling . . .
. . We adore You, Mighty God, and the ways Your Glorious Heart is ever zealous to make known your Love and Shelter to us, in us, over us, through us . . We pray in the Spirit and In the Name of our Jesus ever keeping us in the Father’s Loving embrace . . . amen . . .
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September 22, 2023 at 9:41 am #116872
Geri9
MemberWell …both these wannabe dudes skipped the UN meetings in New York … Chucky’s travel itinerary was to visit Paris for some talks with Macron.
I can’t post the article because it goes against the RITA rules. But at least we know where Chucky was at … now the question is when will he make that visit to Israel … the articles I see state … he is considering an official visit to Israel some time in 2023 ….
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September 22, 2023 at 11:58 am #116890
Terry
MemberMacron’s Catholic, by choice, not upbringing. I’m hoping he’s just a set-up man with a job to do, and he’ll be going with us.
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September 22, 2023 at 1:31 pm #116894
Geri9
MemberAbout 24 minutes
Celestial Signs in 2030 Confirms Rapture Forecast for the Day of Atonement 2023!
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September 22, 2023 at 4:09 pm #116899
Geri9
Member4 minute short clip with more info…
The Hopeful 2023 Rapture & The Eclipses 6666
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September 23, 2023 at 2:36 pm #116951
MyWhiteStone
MemberI’m just sayin’ here, not nitpicking, but …
Last night I was puzzled about seeing Aaron’s (God A Minute?) video wherein he reported a comment containing a “6-6-6-6” (i,e,. years-months-weeks-days) series referring to the duration between the August 17, 2017 eclipse and the April 24, 2024 eclipse. I decided to look closer since those dates juxtaposed like that are odd, and a lot of ambiguity arises upon summing various combinations of those. So, upon checking timeanddate.com one finds 2,442 days between those two eclipses, and there is no way any combination of “6-6-6-6” or even the more usual “6-6-6” will come close to 2,442.
Regardless, I’m expecting the Rapture on Monday and it’s my 77th birthday! And 77 is a great number, no? Wouldn’t that be some kind of special?!
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September 22, 2023 at 8:37 pm #116916
Geri9
MemberShort 12 minute clip
JUBILEE YEAR CONFIRMED! Heads Up Saints! Documentation Confirms 2023 Jubilee Year!
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September 22, 2023 at 9:04 pm #116917
Terry
MemberThanks. We had watched the imbedded video earlier this afternoon. Bob said that guy did the work, but Bob Barber explained it more clearly.
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September 22, 2023 at 9:30 pm #116922
Terry
MemberI’ve heard Atonement is Sept. 24/25 or 27 or 29. Whichever one, it sounds like we could be out of here sometime next week. Woo hoo! Somebody give me a cheeseburger! (I’ve been basically living on cottage cheese since I broke a tooth.)
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September 22, 2023 at 11:13 pm #116925
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September 23, 2023 at 8:49 am #116937
Geri9
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Was anyone watching, as the leaders at the U.N., made a 7 year agreement for a single global agenda
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September 23, 2023 at 11:57 am #116940
Geri9
MemberCovenant with Many Now Ready! Rapture Resurrection Event Hand of Restraint Prevents Confirmation!
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September 23, 2023 at 1:04 pm #116943
Geri9
Member4 minute clip from Aaron
2023 Rapture | 6666 = Righteousness Judgement 2024
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September 23, 2023 at 1:15 pm #116944
Geri9
MemberInteresting Aaron doesn’t think it’s a Jubliee year … until the 2nd coming but that’s his personal view. Yet Bob Barber was showing on his clip he leans that it is a Jubliee year in 2023 ..
I just wonder when do we leave? Tomorrow, Sunday 9/23 for the start of Yom Kippur or later this week for Feast of Tabernacles?
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September 23, 2023 at 1:16 pm #116945
Yohanan
ModeratorI vote for tomorrow!
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September 23, 2023 at 2:13 pm #116947
Lee Giblin
MemberGeri, I’m looking at Mon 9/25 at dark in Jerusalem, so about 7pm.
The end of Yom Kippur when they blow the last trump.
That’s noontime east coast USA.
I’ve been wrong before and hope it works out this year.
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September 23, 2023 at 2:56 pm #116953
MyWhiteStone
MemberWow Lee! Wouldn’t that be noon on the east coast Sunday? Less than a day away? Let’s just keep hoping!
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September 23, 2023 at 3:59 pm #116956
churchgal
MemberOn the time and date calendar the new moon was seen in the early morning on Sept. 15th…..now whether or not that was with advanced technology or naked eye?? who knows? the day should start at sundown on the day following the sighting of the new moon so if we go by when it was actually seen, it should have been celebrated on Sept. 16th (nightfall on the 15th to nightfall on the 16th). I know some who say the signs in the heavens say the new moon had to be in Libra but that is Jewish tradition not Bible….but that day was the 19th….but either way if we are considering a home going on Yom Kippur then we can expect any day between tomorrow and the 30th basically- which means several high watch moments in the next week. I favor a midnight call as opposed to sundown (just a personal favorite considering the mention of the bridgegroom coming in scripture) and the day I am watching closest is Tuesday the 26th (sundown Mon- sundown Tuesday)……so those two factors together would suggest Monday at midnight or 5pm eastern standard time
……but seriously I am good anytime the Lord says Come up here!
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September 23, 2023 at 4:03 pm #116959
Dave
MemberI am hoping with all of you for 9-25, or 9-29, 100 years from 9-29-23 or even the Hebrew date for 9-29. But if we enter October, then my hope switches to another possibility.
One speaker says that the FOT cannot begin until after the fall equinox because how would they have known thousands of years ago when to look for the next new moon for FOT? I believe Hebcal currently uses the new moon closest to the fall equinox. Maybe because they do not want to tabernacle outside in the cold? That would have taken some guess work thousands of years ago.
So, if there is merit to this thought then we still have a chance between 10-14 and 10-16.
Unfortunately, if this date passes, then I am looking to spring/summer 2024, shortly after the solar eclipse warnings are completed.
But hoping you all are right.
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September 23, 2023 at 4:23 pm #116960
Terry
MemberAs everybody, I’m hoping we leave next week. My last ditch hope for this year is the COP 28 agreement being The Covenant. Not ready to think about next year yet. And don’t want to have to go through another winter with things the way they are.
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September 23, 2023 at 4:25 pm #116961
Yohanan
ModeratorI agree. There are too many times left in this year to start looking at 2024.
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September 23, 2023 at 4:35 pm #116962
MyWhiteStone
MemberOkay now, don’t get excited, don’t get discouraged, because there’s an explanation about the trumpets. The Feast of trumpets indeed happened immediately after the new moon, but consider that in a jubilee year trumpet is also blown 10 days later on Yom Kippur. So both are right, both trumpets, and in my opinion we will not be waiting past Monday. And I am fully expecting sometime tomorrow due to the fact that Israel is somewhere between 7 and 10 hours prior to USA time.
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September 23, 2023 at 7:11 pm #116971
Dave
MemberIf the second coming is in 2030, then 1260 and 1260 days prior could be around COP 28. And I am sure everything could deteriorate very quickly and still reach an agreement for the following verse by COP 28.
Ezekiel 39:9 “And they that dwell in the cities of Israel shall go forth, and shall set on fire and burn the weapons, both the shields and the bucklers, the bows and the arrows, and the javelins and the spears; and they shall burn them with fire seven years,
I truly believe that Ezekiel 38 war could start and end quickly, allowing the above verse to become reality for inclusion in COP 28 and keep 2030 a possibility. Has anyone seen much discussion on this from those pointing to 2030.
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September 24, 2023 at 12:23 pm #117008
Geri9
MemberAbout 16 minutes
Is Gods Jubilee Atonement Debt
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September 24, 2023 at 2:47 pm #117019
Tammie
MemberFor fun while we wait from Aaron and Krista on God a Minute – comic relief – only about 2 minutes
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September 24, 2023 at 3:25 pm #117021
Geri9
MemberDid you see this one? about 1 month ago …
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September 24, 2023 at 7:25 pm #117032
Greg
MemberDoes anyone recall reading a book named Angels on Assignment? It’s about a pastor who had a series of incredible angelic encounters in the late 70’s. Quite a claim and not something to be accepted lightly. Reading through the book, I found nothing that contradicts scripture, but a few things that may challenge details of some of the theology humans build from scripture and on which christians still argue about today. Anyway, the content seems sound to me and has even helped me resolve some of the questions or apparent contradictions people argue about with topics like osas, free will, etc. As always, if it doesn’t 100% agree with scripture, there’s something wrong.
To the current point, chapter 6 talks about God’s priorities and ties them to the feasts. What if we’ve gotten so busy searching out the minutiae that we’ve literally missed the forest for the trees on the big picture of what these days may represent? The book is freely available in it’s entirety online here (link is to the chapter I’m referring to): http://angelsonassignment.org/priorities.html This isn’t the only reason I’m far more hopeful about Tabernacles than any of the fall feasts. Nor do I think the Rapture has to be on one of God’s special days, although I do think it’s likely. Anyway, food for thought and a very quick and easy read.
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September 24, 2023 at 7:52 pm #117033
Yohanan
ModeratorThis book?
I’ll go back and reread chapter six.
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September 25, 2023 at 4:10 am #117048
Geri9
MemberYep, Greg … I see the strong case for the rapture happening on the “Feast of Tabernacles”
Lisa Taylor @ 5 Doves posted this article
And it’s the only feast that the millennium people are required to honor and travel to Jerusalem to observe and worship Jesus! Could very well be His birthday!
Zechariah 14:15-17
15 And so shall be the plague of the horse, of the mule, of the camel, and of the ass, and of all the beasts that shall be in these tents, as this plague.
16 And it shall come to pass, that every one that is left of all the nations which came against Jerusalem shall even go up from year to year to worship the King, the Lord of hosts, and to keep the feast of tabernacles.
17 And it shall be, that whoso will not come up of all the families of the earth unto Jerusalem to worship the King, the Lord of hosts, even upon them shall be no rain.
Oh and on this feast you got it a trumpet is blown! Lisa talks about it in her article.
“There’s Still Tabernacles”
Dear Doves,Well, this is my obligatory “but wait, there’s still the Feast of Tabernacles” post which I usually submit after the high watch period of Rosh Hashanah. Tabernacles is the last feast of the Levitical festival cycle, and it ain’t over until it’s over or the fat lady sings or until this fat lady posts another post about the Feast of Tabernacles …. And I think that there are some great reasons why the Feast of Tabernacles is well worth your consideration.
New Bodies or tabernacles
Because we are going to get new bodies at the Rapture/Resurrection, the Feast of Tabernacles could be significant since tabernacles in the Bible can also represent mortal or earthly bodies. If tabernacles can be bodies, then the Feast of Tabernacles is figuratively a festival of bodies. Wouldn’t it be fitting if our mortal bodies or tabernacles were transformed into immortal bodies on the Feast of Booths (or bodies)?
Yea, I think it meet, as long as I am in this tabernacle, to stir you up by putting you in remembrance; Knowing that shortly I must put off this my tabernacle, even as our Lord Jesus Christ hath shewed me. Moreover I will endeavour that ye may be able after my decease to have these things always in remembrance.” 2 Peter 1:13-15.
“For we know that if our earthly house of this tabernacle were dissolved, we have a building of God, an house not made with hands, eternal in the heavens.” 2 Corinthians 5:1.
“For we that are in this tabernacle do groan, being burdened: not for that we would be unclothed, but clothed upon, that mortality might be swallowed up of life.” 2 Corinthians 5:4.
A Tabernacles Nativity?
There is also the possibility that Jesus was born on the Feast of Tabernacles, which might establish a birth pattern (i.e., a new body pattern) for that Feast. (Remember, we are clothed in mortal bodies at our first birth. Perhaps we will be clothed in immortal bodies as part of the second birth.)
According to Leviticus 23:34-44, Tabernacles is commemorated by dwelling seven days in a temporary structure or a booth of branches. There is also an eighth day of assembly traditionally called Shemini Atzeret.
Please keep in mind that Jesus was born in an animal stable, and that He and His family probably lived there until he was circumcised on the eighth day. “And she brought forth her firstborn son, and wrapped him in swaddling clothes, and laid him in a manger; because there was no room for them in the inn.” Luke 2:7. Significantly, the first Biblical mention of the word “booths” (translated “sukkot”) is in connection with Jacob, who made booths for his cattle at a location that was consequently called Succoth – Genesis 33:17: “And Jacob journeyed to Succoth, and built him an house, and made booths for his cattle: therefore the name of the place is called Succoth.” So, if Jesus was born in an animal stall on the Feast of Tabernacles – He literally fulfilled the feast by dwelling in an actual sukkah or a booth. If He, Mary and Joseph stayed there until the time of His circumcision on the eighth day, they would have also fulfilled the 7-day dwelling period required by the Feast. So, could this Feast anticipate the circumstances of Christ’s birth? Wouldn’t it be wild if Jews, since the time of Moses, have unwittingly been commemorating the birth of Christ by dwelling one week in a tabernacle?
We might have been given another timing clue in the name of Succoth, which was also the first encampment location of Israel after its exodus from Egypt (see Exodus 12:37.). Is it significant that Israel stayed in a place called Tabernacles, immediately after the first Passover (Exodus 12)? Where (or when) will we make an exodus from this world? Will Sukkot be significant?
Just recall the many nativity scenes that populate our lawns at Christmastime. If you think about it, they could also be a depiction of the Feast of Tabernacles – a replication of Jewish families dwelling outdoors in sukkot.
According to John 1:14: “And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth.”; the Greek word for “dwelt” used in this verse also means to tabernacle. So, at His birth, Jesus dwelled or tabernacled with mankind. And He literally tabernacled in a human body of flesh.
If Jesus received a new body (or tabernacle) on the Feast of Tabernacles, then it would be fitting if we, who are also the body of Christ, will receive new bodies or houses on the Feast of Tabernacles – the possible anniversary of His birth. Do we get a mortal body at the first birth and an immortal body at the second birth? “Jesus answered and said unto him, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God.” John 3:3.
“In my Father’s house are many mansions: if it were not so, I would have told you. I go to prepare a place for you. And if I go and prepare a place for you, I will come again, and receive you unto myself; that where I am, there ye may be also.” John 14:2-3.
Instead of dwelling 7 days in a tabernacle, we might tabernacle with God in heaven for a week of 7 years (the entire Tribulation period) and assemble with Him on the Eighth Day – at the Millennium (when one day is one thousand years).
Shepherds visit!
Caveat: I cannot vouch for the accuracy of this fact, but according to the Wikipedia article on Sukkot there is a custom of inviting the seven shepherds of Israel (Abraham, Isaac, Jacob, Moses Aaron Joseph and David) into one’s tabernacle. This custom reminded me that shepherds were the first to visit the baby Jesus. Perhaps Jesus, our Good Shepherd, will visit us on this Feast.
Last of the pilgrimage festivals to be fulfilled?
The Feast of Trumpets is such a big deal on the prophetic calendar because it is thought to be the next consecutive Feast on the calendar to be fulfilled by God. But what if there is another order in which the festivals must be fulfilled? May I propose that the three pilgrimage festivals represent that alternative order?
Why are the 3 Pilgrimage Festivals (i.e. Passover, Pentecost and Tabernacles) specifically highlighted and distinguished from the other feasts in the Bible? In addition to their mention in Leviticus 23, they are also exclusively mentioned in Exodus 23:14-17 and in Exodus 34:18-24. Jewish males were required to travel to the to the place of the Lord’s choosing to celebrate them.
“Three times thou shalt keep a feast unto me in the year. Thou shalt keep the feast of unleavened bread: (thou shalt eat unleavened bread seven days, as I commanded thee, in the time appointed of the month Abib; for in it thou camest out from Egypt: and none shall appear before me empty:) And the feast of harvest, the firstfruits of thy labours, which thou hast sown in the field: and the feast of ingathering, which is in the end of the year, when thou hast gathered in thy labours out of the field. Three times in the year all thy males shall appear before the Lord GOD.” Exodus 23:14-17.
But why these specific feasts? We know that they are prophetic and, as fulfilled, they seem to represent the core of God’s plan of redemption.
Symbolically, Jesus is the bread of life. (John 6:35 and 48.) He was without sin (i.e. without leaven which is a type for sin—1 Corinthians 5: 8). He is also the Passover Lamb (1 Corinthians 5:7) who was sacrificed for our sins. We have to eat (or receive and accept in faith) God’s sacrifice for the forgiveness of our sins. If we do this, we will be born again through the Holy Spirit and have eternal life. Next, the Church experienced the indwelling of the Holy Spirit on the Pentecost after the resurrection of Christ; likewise, and we are individually indwelt by the Holy Spirit after we accept Christ’s sacrificial death and resurrection for the forgiveness of our sins. Believers have a sort of personal Pentecost.
“But ye are not in the flesh, but in the Spirit, if so be that the Spirit of God dwell in you. Now if any man have not the Spirit of Christ, he is none of his. And if Christ be in you, the body is dead because of sin; but the Spirit is life because of righteousness. But if the Spirit of him that raised up Jesus from the dead dwell in you, he that raised up Christ from the dead shall also quicken your mortal bodies by his Spirit that dwelleth in you.” Romans 8:9-11.
Finally, God will tabernacle with us in eternity.
“My tabernacle also shall be with them: yea, I will be their God, and they shall be my people.” Ezekiel 37:27.
“And I heard a great voice out of heaven saying, Behold, the tabernacle of God is with men, and he will dwell with them, and they shall be his people, and God himself shall be with them, and be their God.” Revelation 21:3.
So, the three pilgrimage festivals highlight the Christian’s way to God or the Trinity. Jesus our Passover; the indwelling of the Holy Spirit; eternity with the Father. It is the same path for Israel, since these three festivals are also part of the seven Levitical festivals.
This is why believe that the Feast of Tabernacles can be next on the prophetic calendar.
If you think about it, the Godhead desires to tabernacle with us. Jesus did it first. Now the Holy Spirit dwells in the tabernacles of our bodies. And, someday, in eternity, The Father will dwell with us. This was the ultimate plan – eternal reconciliation with God (Father, Son and Holy Spirit.) How wonderful is that?
“But ye are not in the flesh, but in the Spirit, if so be that the Spirit of God dwell in you. Now if any man have not the Spirit of Christ, he is none of his. And if Christ be in you, the body is dead because of sin; but the Spirit is life because of righteousness. But if the Spirit of him that raised up Jesus from the dead dwell in you, he that raised up Christ from the dead shall also quicken your mortal bodies by his Spirit that dwelleth in you.” Romans 8:9-11.
Trouble and Tabernacles
In the Bible, tabernacles are safe places in times of trouble.
“For in the time of trouble he shall hide me in his pavilion: in the secret of his tabernacle shall he hide me; he shall set me up upon a rock. And now shall mine head be lifted up above mine enemies round about me: therefore will I offer in his tabernacle sacrifices of joy; I will sing, yea, I will sing praises unto the LORD.” Psalm 27:5-6.
Come, my people, enter thou into thy chambers, and shut thy doors about thee: hide thyself as it were for a little moment, until the indignation be overpast. Isaiah 26:20.
We will be protected from the Tribulation in His tabernacle – at Tabernacles?
The Great Multitude at Tabernacles?
I do not know if this is really the case, but I’ve heard that it is currently a Shemita year. If so, a Shemita year will have a specific impact on the celebration of the Feast of Tabernacles: “And Moses commanded them, saying, At the end of every seven years, in the solemnity of the year of release, in the feast of tabernacles, When all Israel is come to appear before the LORD thy God in the place which he shall choose, thou shalt read this law before all Israel in their hearing. Gather the people together, men, and women, and children, and thy stranger that is within thy gates, that they may hear, and that they may learn, and fear the LORD your God, and observe to do all the words of this law.” Deuteronomy 31:10-12. Note the diversity of this group – it is not limited to just men as required by pilgrimage festivals, in general. Could this foreshadow a more comprehensive Rapture gathering in a Jubilee year?
Furthermore, if you look at the Great Multitude of Revelation 7:9-15, it looks like a celebration of the Feast of Tabernacles at Jubilee:
“After this I beheld, and, lo, a great multitude, which no man could number, of all nations, and kindreds, and people, and tongues, stood before the throne, and before the Lamb, clothed with white robes, and palms in their hands; And cried with a loud voice, saying, Salvation to our God which sitteth upon the throne, and unto the Lamb. And all the angels stood round about the throne, and about the elders and the four beasts, and fell before the throne on their faces, and worshipped God, Saying, Amen: Blessing, and glory, and wisdom, and thanksgiving, and honour, and power, and might, be unto our God for ever and ever. Amen. And one of the elders answered, saying unto me, What are these which are arrayed in white robes? and whence came they? And I said unto him, Sir, thou knowest. And he said to me, These are they which came out of great tribulation, and have washed their robes, and made them white in the blood of the Lamb. Therefore are they before the throne of God, and serve him day and night in his temple: and he that sitteth on the throne shall dwell among them.”
Notice the multitude have palms in their hands. Which is the very thing that people are supposed to wave as part of the celebration (see Leviticus 23:40) of Tabernacles. Revelation 7:9-15 sure looks like a heavenly celebration of the Feast of Tabernacles.
“And one of the elders answered, saying unto me, What are these which are arrayed in white robes? and whence came they? And I said unto him, Sir, thou knowest. And he said to me, These are they which came out of great tribulation, and have washed their robes, and made them white in the blood of the Lamb.” Revelation 7:13-14.
I do not know if we are that great multitude, but if we are, then the Feast of Tabernacles could be a high watch time. Notice that Revelation 7:15 states that God will dwell or tabernacle with the multitude. At the very least, the Feast of Tabernacles could point to the season of our departure.
Remember that the Holy Spirit comes to dwell in us when we are saved. God the Spirit is already tabernacling in our own bodies or tabernacles.
A Tabernacles’ Wedding?
There is an obvious visual connection between Tabernacles and a Jewish wedding ceremony. A Jewish wedding ceremony often takes place under a tent-like wedding canopy called a chuppah, similarly a Sukkah can be a tent-like structure. Or it can be as simple as a covering of branches, a sheet or prayer shawl. “And he said, Who art thou? And she answered, I am Ruth thine handmaid: spread therefore thy skirt over thine handmaid; for thou art a near kinsman.” Ruth 3:9. A chuppah symbolizes the home and protection that the groom will provide for his bride. “Their line is gone out through all the earth, and their words to the end of the world. In them hath he set a tabernacle for the sun, Which is as a bridegroom coming out of his chamber, and rejoiceth as a strong man to run a race.” Psalm 19:4-5. (See how the bridegroom is connected to the imagery of the tabernacle.) God Himself covers us with his protection, we are safe under His wings, under his chuppah. Jesus, the bridegroom, is also the Branch that covers us.
“Behold, the days come, saith the LORD, that I will raise unto David a righteous Branch, and a King shall reign and prosper, and shall execute judgment and justice in the earth.” Jeremiah 23:5.
In Bible-times, a traditional Jewish wedding lasted one week. Likewise the Feast of Tabernacles lasts one week. Perhaps our own wedding to the Bridegroom will take place on this feast. It is supposed to be a festival of great joy (see Deuteronomy 16:14) and it will be important enough to be celebrated by all the nations during the Millennium, on threat of punishment (See Zechariah 14:16-19). So, there must be something significant about this feast – perhaps the anniversary of a Wedding or the snatching of the Bride?
Darkness and a tabernacle for the sun?
According to Psalm 19:4-5: “Their line is gone out through all the earth, and their words to the end of the world. In them hath he set a tabernacle for the sun, Which is as a bridegroom coming out of his chamber, and rejoiceth as a strong man to run a race.” Psalm 19:4-5.
There is a prophetic word out there that states that there will be a period of darkness on earth, perhaps lasting for three days. I honestly don’t know if that is the case, but the Bible does speak about a tabernacle for the sun. It seems to me that the right time for the sun to go into a tabernacle is on the Feast of Tabernacles. Time will tell.
A Tabernacles Rapture Pattern in the Transfiguration?
Peter made a strange connection to the Feast of Tabernacles after the Transfiguration of Christ. If you remember Jesus took Peter, James, and John up a high mountain where they were enveloped by clouds, heard the voice of God, met Moses and Elijah, and saw Jesus being transfigured. Similarly, at the time of the Rapture – the dead (for example, Moses) and the alive(for example, Peter, James, and John) in Christ will be gathered together up high in the clouds, their bodies will be transformed or transfigured (like Jesus), and they will hear a trumpet sound (the voice of God has been compared to the sound of a trumpet in Revelation 1:10 and Exodus 19:16; Exodus 20:19).
“Then answered Peter, and said unto Jesus, Lord, it is good for us to be here: if thou wilt, let us make here three tabernacles; one for thee, and one for Moses, and one for Elias.” Matthew 17:4.
Why did Peter make this allusion to tabernacles after witnessing the Transfiguration? Were tabernacles on his mind because the Transfiguration occurred near the Feast of Tabernacles. Perhaps we have been given another clue as to when our bodies will be changed from mortal to immortal.
Sign of Jonah
I have a different take on the sign of Jonah which is often associated with the death, burial and resurrection of Jesus Christ.
If you remember Jonah built himself a sukkah and sat in it in order to watch the destruction of the Ninevites. It was during the time that he was sitting in a booth that the God of Israel delivered the Ninevites, a group of Gentiles, from sure judgment/destruction. If the Church, which is predominantly comprised of Gentiles, is raptured prior to a period of judgment/destruction during the time Jews are dwelling in booths it could be a pretty big sign to the Jewish people – perhaps a sign of Jonah?
Jonah 4:5: “So Jonah went out of the city, and sat on the east side of the city, and there made him a booth, and sat under it in the shadow, till he might see what would become of the city.”
The pilgrimage festivals are embedded in Jonah
We find a confirmation of the Pilgrimage Festival Pattern embedded in the book of Jonah. I must credit fellow Dove, Pastor Daniel Lizarraga for this wonderful insight. He believes that all three of the Pilgrimage Festivals are the Sign of Jonah that Jesus spoke about.
“A wicked and adulterous generation asks for a miraculous sign! But none will be given it except the sign of the prophet Jonah. For as Jonah was three days and three nights in the belly of a huge fish, so the Son of Man will be three days and three nights in the heart of the earth. The men of Nineveh will stand up at the judgment with this generation and condemn it; for they repented at the preaching of Jonah, and now one greater than Jonah is here.” Matthew 12:30-41.
There does seem to be a correlation between these 3 festivals and the reluctant prophet. The book of Jonah highlights the mercy that God shows to a group of repentant Gentiles. Jonah was 3 days and 3 nights in the belly of the fish. Likewise, Jesus was 3 days and 3 nights in the heart of the earth – the fulfillment of Unleavened Bread. 120,000 Ninevites were saved. (“And should I not have concern for the great city of Nineveh, in which there are more than a hundred and twenty thousand people who cannot tell their right hand from their left—and also many animals?” NIV Jonah 4:11). 120 people initially received the Holy Spirit on Pentecost – which is a multiple of the number of saved Ninevites. Note that 120 is a multiple of 120,000. (“And in those days Peter stood up in the midst of the disciples, and said, (the number of names together were about an hundred and twenty,) Acts 1:15). Jonah also built a tabernacle (or sukkah) to watch the destruction of Nineveh – but the Ninevites were preserved from judgment. (See Jonah 4:5). Tabernacles are also built in observance of the Feast of Tabernacles.
I do not think that it is a coincidence that the 3 feasts that may make up the sign of Jonah are the same 3 feasts that make up the Pilgrimage Festivals. In the same passage where Jesus points the Jews to sign of Jonah, he was making a specific point about Gentile believers coming to the faith. He also mentions the Queen of Sheba who came to the faith during the time of King Solomon. (See Matthew 12: 42.) Jesus was clearly showing the Jews that the conversion of Gentiles would be a sign to them and that the 3 Pilgrimage Festivals would be connected to this sign.
If the Rapture of the Church occurs on a Feast of Tabernacles, the Jews will see a correlation between the two events. They will see a predominantly Gentile body (who has accepted Christ the Passover Lamb and Unleavened Bread as her Savior) preserved from judgment on one of their own feast days. Ironically, the book of Jonah is the Haftarah reading for Yom Kippur. So Jonah will still be on their minds when the Feast of Tabernacles begins five days later.
The Ninevites were spared judgment while Jonah watched from a tabernacle. Will the Church also be spared from the judgment of the Tribulation at the time Jews are dwelling in tabernacles?
Noah’s Ark
The Bible also compares the end times to the Days of Noah. (See Matthew 24:37.) Well, those days also can be linked to the Feast of Tabernacles, which starts on the 15th day of the Seventh month – Leviticus 23:39. Note that the flood waters receded on the 17th day of the Seventh month (which would be during the Feast of Tabernacles) after the Ark came to a rest on Mount Ararat. (See Genesis 8:3.) Logically, the Ark must have been filled with various animal stalls or sukkah. Furthermore, the family had to dwell in the Ark for a period of 7 days before the Flood began. (See Genesis 7:10) So, there appears to be a calendar and pattern connection between the Ark (of floating sukkot) and the Feast of Tabernacles.
Furthermore, the animals on the Ark can represent the Church. If you remember there had been an early Church issue as to whether Gentiles could be part of the Church. In response, Peter was given the following vision:
“Peter went up upon the housetop to pray about the sixth hour: And he became very hungry, and would have eaten: but while they made ready, he fell into a trance, And saw heaven opened, and a certain vessel descending unto him, as it had been a great sheet knit at the four corners, and let down to the earth: Wherein were all manner of fourfooted beasts of the earth, and wild beasts, and creeping things, and fowls of the air. And there came a voice to him, Rise, Peter; kill, and eat. But Peter said, Not so, Lord; for I have never eaten any thing that is common or unclean. And the voice spake unto him again the second time, What God hath cleansed, that call not thou common. This was done thrice: and the vessel was received up again into heaven.” Acts 10:9-16. Through this vision, Peter learned that Gentiles were to be accepted into the Church, because God found them to be eligible. The Ark of animals is like the sheet of animals. Both can represent the Gentiles of the Church. The animals were rescued from the judgment of the Flood, and the Church will be rescued from the flood of end times judgment. Here the Ark was perched high up on Ararat during the Feast of Tabernacles; perhaps the Church will be perched high up in heaven, perhaps on Mount Zion, and during the Feast of Tabernacles.
“You have not come to a mountain that can be touched and that is burning with fire; to darkness, gloom and storm; to a trumpet blast or to such a voice speaking words that those who heard it begged that no further word be spoken to them, because they could not bear what was commanded: “If even an animal touches the mountain, it must be stoned to death.” The sight was so terrifying that Moses said, “I am trembling with fear.” But you have come to Mount Zion, to the city of the living God, the heavenly Jerusalem. You have come to thousands upon thousands of angels in joyful assembly, to the church of the firstborn, whose names are written in heaven. You have come to God, the Judge of all, to the spirits of the righteous made perfect …” Hebrews 1218-23.
Last Trumpet of the Festival Cycle
Okay, this is probably too simplistic, but the Feast of Tabernacles is the last feast in the festival cycle of Leviticus 23. So, won’t the last trumpet blown at Tabernacles be the last trump of the festival cycle? There is also an intriguing verse in Psalm 81:3 which references two trumpets blown, one on Rosh Hashanah and the other on Tabernacles. “Blow the trumpet at the time of the New Moon, at the full moon, on our solemn feast day.” (NKJV) Depending on the version of the Bible you are reading for this verse, trumpets are blown at new and full moon festivals. Since Rosh Hashanah is a new moon festival and Tabernacles is a full moon festival we will have 2 mandated soundings of a trumpet. A first and last sounding?
Hoshana Rabbah
Okay, this is not Biblical, but I have a book called Jewish Holidays and Festivals by Ben M. Edidin that states that on the seventh day of Tabernacles (Hoshana Rabbah/translated “Great Help”) pious Jews will stay up after midnight believing that the heavens will open up that night.
The Temple dedication and Another Great Multitude
King Solomon dedicated his Temple on the Feast of Tabernacles.
“Also at the same time Solomon kept the feast seven days, and all Israel with him, a very great congregation, from the entering in of Hamath unto the river of Egypt. And in the eighth day they made a solemn assembly: for they kept the dedication of the altar seven days, and the feast seven days.” 2 Chronicles7:8-9.
Significantly, we are the Temple of God. At the time of the Rapture all parts of this Temple will be assembled together.
“As you come to him, the living Stone—rejected by humans but chosen by God and precious to him—you also, like living stones, are being built into a spiritual house to be a holy priesthood, offering spiritual sacrifices acceptable to God through Jesus Christ.” 1 Peter 2:4-5.
“For through him we both have access by one Spirit unto the Father. Now therefore ye are no more strangers and foreigners, but fellowcitizens with the saints, and of the household of God; And are built upon the foundation of the apostles and prophets, Jesus Christ himself being the chief corner stone; In whom all the building fitly framed together groweth unto an holy temple in the Lord: in whom ye also are builded together for an habitation of God through the Spirit.” Ephesians 2:18-22.
Notice that “a very great congregation” or great multitude attended this dedication of the temple on the Feast of Tabernacles. Perhaps our own dedication as the Temple of God will occur on a future Feast of Tabernacles.
“Know ye not that ye are the temple of God, and that the Spirit of God dwelleth in you?” 1 Corinthians 3:16.
Season of our Joy
The Feast of Tabernacles is supposed to be a time and festival of joy. “And thou shalt rejoice in thy feast, thou, and thy son, and thy daughter, and thy manservant, and thy maidservant, and the Levite, the stranger, and the fatherless, and the widow, that are within thy gates.” Deuteronomy 16:14. Clearly, something joyful is or will be connected with this feast. Perhaps a birth day or the joy of a wedding?
“And the angel said unto them, Fear not: for, behold, I bring you good tidings of great joy, which shall be to all people. For unto you is born this day in the city of David a Saviour, which is Christ the Lord. And this shall be a sign unto you; Ye shall find the babe wrapped in swaddling clothes, lying in a manger.” Luke 2:10-12.
“The voice of joy, and the voice of gladness, the voice of the bridegroom, and the voice of the bride, the voice of them that shall say, Praise the LORD of hosts: for the LORD is good; for his mercy endureth for ever: and of them that shall bring the sacrifice of praise into the house of the LORD. For I will cause to return the captivity of the land, as at the first, saith the LORD.” Jeremiah 33:11.
“He that hath the bride is the bridegroom: but the friend of the bridegroom, which standeth and heareth him, rejoiceth greatly because of the bridegroom’s voice: this my joy therefore is fulfilled.” John 3:29.
“Looking unto Jesus the author and finisher of our faith; who for the joy that was set before him endured the cross, despising the shame, and is set down at the right hand of the throne of God.” Hebrews 12:2
Secret Coming at Tabernacles
John 7 talks about a time when Jesus went to Jerusalem to celebrate the Feast of Tabernacles. His brothers mocked him for not showing himself to the world.
“Go ye up unto this feast: I go not up yet unto this feast; for my time is not yet full come. When he had said these words unto them, he abode still in Galilee. But when his brethren were gone up, then went he also up unto the feast, not openly, but as it were in secret.” John 7:8-10.
So, we see that Jesus attended that Feast of Tabernacles “in secret.” Maybe He will come for us on another Feast of Tabernacles and “in secret.”
Conclusion
Well, I have speculated quite enough. I know that waiting can be frustrating, but there is no time wasted in watching for our Lord. “Henceforth there is laid up for me a crown of righteousness, which the Lord, the righteous judge, shall give me at that day: and not to me only, but unto all them also that love his appearing.” 1 Timothy 4:8. It will be a great pleasure to worship with all of you someday in heaven in that great multitude – and to admire your crowns. Hopefully soon.
“Beloved, now are we the sons of God, and it doth not yet appear what we shall be: but we know that, when he shall appear, we shall be like him; for we shall see him as he is.” 1 John 3:2.
Maranatha.
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September 25, 2023 at 4:35 am #117049
Geri9
MemberSo when does the church leave?
September 30 – October 6th is the Feast of Tabernacles
Then 8 days later there is that October 14, 2023 solar eclipse …
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September 25, 2023 at 8:02 am #117074
Greg
MemberI think it starts at sundown on Friday this year. I don’t like going too far down the date setting road because of the damage it can cause others if/when they pass (my kids remember something JD said in certainty in 2020 that apparently caused some damage when it didn’t pan out), but if the typology of the feast representing Christ’s return in its entirety (Rapture, trib, second coming) is correct and if this is that year and God doesn’t have another date set, I would think it would be in the first day. When people go to live in temporary dwellings for seven days (maybe years)?
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September 25, 2023 at 11:33 am #117090
Terry
MemberHa! Even before then. The political alignments in the middle east have a shelf life. And This is it! This is it! It wasn’t it. We stopped watching for a long time. Then we started watching again in 2020 when covid came to see what he had to say about any of that. Now we watch when he’s giving updates and explanations, but not when he’s preaching. He is good at news and analysis.
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September 25, 2023 at 5:43 am #117050
Yohanan
ModeratorSo when does the church leave?
I’m still voting for today!
One of my favorite gospel songs is The King is Coming and lately I cannot get it out of my head so I learned to play it on the guitar and every single time I play it I get chills! With all that is going on in every sector or society and the world it seems we are being readied to go home.
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September 25, 2023 at 11:15 am #117087
Geri9
MemberPaul Emphasizes that They (the Wicked)
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September 25, 2023 at 11:26 am #117089
Lee Giblin
Member7 min to sunset. Countdown time till darkness. Is everyone ready? See you soon!
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September 25, 2023 at 10:59 pm #117244
Yohanan
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