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                        <title>RE: 2022 Tribulation?</title>
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                        <pubDate>Tue, 24 May 2022 12:53:24 +0000</pubDate>
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						                            <category domain="https://raptureintheairnow.com/community/main-forum/">Main Forum</category>                        <dc:creator>Blue</dc:creator>
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                        <title>RE: 2022 Tribulation?</title>
                        <link>https://raptureintheairnow.com/community/main-forum/2022-tribulation/paged/7/#post-40712</link>
                        <pubDate>Sat, 21 May 2022 12:30:02 +0000</pubDate>
                        <description><![CDATA[Good call, perhaps the latter half is all angelic evangelization? That is a distinct possibility.]]></description>
                        <content:encoded><![CDATA[Good call, perhaps the latter half is all angelic evangelization? That is a distinct possibility.]]></content:encoded>
						                            <category domain="https://raptureintheairnow.com/community/main-forum/">Main Forum</category>                        <dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
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                        <title>RE: 2022 Tribulation?</title>
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                        <pubDate>Sat, 21 May 2022 11:09:07 +0000</pubDate>
                        <description><![CDATA[It looks like from this passage … the Lord assigns the witnessing job to the angels and to warn the left behind not to take the mark of the beast.

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Revelation 14:6 And I saw another ...]]></description>
                        <content:encoded><![CDATA[It looks like from this passage … the Lord assigns the witnessing job to the angels and to warn the left behind not to take the mark of the beast.

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Revelation 14:6 And I saw another <strong>angel</strong> fly in the midst of heaven, <strong>having the everlasting gospel to preach unto them that dwell on the earth, and to every nation, and kindred, and tongue, and people,</strong>

7 Saying with a loud voice, Fear God, and give glory to him; for the hour of his judgment is come: and worship him that made heaven, and earth, and the sea, and the fountains of waters.

8 And there followed another angel, saying, Babylon is fallen, is fallen, that great city, because she made all nations drink of the wine of the wrath of her fornication.

9 And the <strong>third angel</strong> followed them, saying with a loud voice, <strong>If any man worship the beast and his image, and receive his mark in his forehead, or in his hand,</strong>

10 <strong>The same shall drink of the wine of the wrath of God, which is poured out without mixture into the cup of his indignation; and he shall be tormented with fire and brimstone in the presence of the holy angels, and in the presence of the Lamb:</strong>]]></content:encoded>
						                            <category domain="https://raptureintheairnow.com/community/main-forum/">Main Forum</category>                        <dc:creator>Geri9</dc:creator>
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                        <title>RE: 2022 Tribulation?</title>
                        <link>https://raptureintheairnow.com/community/main-forum/2022-tribulation/paged/7/#post-40703</link>
                        <pubDate>Sat, 21 May 2022 09:56:44 +0000</pubDate>
                        <description><![CDATA[I have often wondered about that too Geri, and am very divided and admit I’m just grasping at straws here - part of me feels like the two witnesses (and yes, I am convinced one will be Elija...]]></description>
                        <content:encoded><![CDATA[I have often wondered about that too Geri, and am very divided and admit I’m just grasping at straws here - part of me feels like the two witnesses (and yes, I am convinced one will be Elijah) will be here in the first half of the Trib and will instruct the 144,000 - the other side of me speculates that their ministry might be in the second half separate from the 144,000 and again I wrestle with this.

But the reason I wrestle is because I picture it this way, if the 144,000 and the 2 witnesses are both in the first half of the trib, then when the witnesses are killed and raptured to the Lord at the mid-point, and presumably the 144,000 because we see them with the Lamb in Revelation 14, does God leave Himself without any witness on the earth for the last half of the tribulation when it is at its worst and the Jewish people need to be evangelized more than ever so?  It just doesn’t jive with me that all of the witnessing would go on in the first half and then nada, zip, zero in the second half.  Again, I couldn’t be dogmatic (one of my favorite sayings) but these are the things I speculate on and wrestle with.

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                        <title>RE: 2022 Tribulation?</title>
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                        <pubDate>Sat, 21 May 2022 09:17:10 +0000</pubDate>
                        <description><![CDATA[I’m thinking of this verse in Malachi 4:5  “Behold, I will send you Elijah the prophet before the coming of the great and dreadful day of the LORD:”

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I heard some watchers say … “The...]]></description>
                        <content:encoded><![CDATA[I’m thinking of this verse in Malachi 4:5  “Behold, I will send you Elijah the prophet before the coming of the great and dreadful day of the LORD:”

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I heard some watchers say … “The great day of the LORD” is the rapture event and the “dreadful day of the LORD” is the start of the tribulation …  and this verse says Elijah will be here <strong>before </strong>… so perhaps we will see him arrive before our departure?  And if so … perhaps he be teaching the 144,000? :unsure:]]></content:encoded>
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                        <title>RE: 2022 Tribulation?</title>
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                        <pubDate>Sat, 21 May 2022 07:46:58 +0000</pubDate>
                        <description><![CDATA[Very true, very true MWS and duly noted.  There is obviously some sort of a gap in time in between the rapture and the sealing of the 144,000.  The thing I was talking about above  is just s...]]></description>
                        <content:encoded><![CDATA[Very true, very true MWS and duly noted.  There is obviously some sort of a gap in time in between the rapture and the sealing of the 144,000.  The thing I was talking about above  is just something that I heard long ago and it stuck with me because Elijah and Elisha are a great type and foreshadow, and it’s could be nothing, I certainly would not be dogmatic about it - but on the other hand, I think of the conversion of Paul also.  There was an obvious gap in time between the Damascus road conversion and when Paul actually was approved to go into ministry.  I think he spent a couple of years before the other apostles accepted him and he actually started ministry if I remember right.  So maybe IF the 144,000 see our departure that will be their Damascus road experience, but that does not means they will be ready immediately to witness for Jesus, perhaps their sealing is the confirmation that they are ready for ministry.  Again, could not be dogmatic, just speculating.]]></content:encoded>
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                        <title>RE: 2022 Tribulation?</title>
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                        <pubDate>Fri, 20 May 2022 22:02:16 +0000</pubDate>
                        <description><![CDATA[Interesting proposition, Derrick.  However, please explain this: the Revelation 4:1 Rapture is scheduled well prior to the 144,000 being sealed -- which event is clearly placed even after th...]]></description>
                        <content:encoded><![CDATA[Interesting proposition, Derrick.  However, please explain this: the Revelation 4:1 Rapture is scheduled well prior to the 144,000 being sealed -- which event is clearly placed even after the sixth seal -- Revelation 7:1.  :unsure:]]></content:encoded>
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                        <title>RE: 2022 Tribulation?</title>
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                        <pubDate>Fri, 20 May 2022 17:02:26 +0000</pubDate>
                        <description><![CDATA[Geri, just going through this post and reading all the comments and saw yours - since you are intrigued about the 144,000 I thought I would give you this thought to chew on or anybody else.
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                        <content:encoded><![CDATA[Geri, just going through this post and reading all the comments and saw yours - since you are intrigued about the 144,000 I thought I would give you this thought to chew on or anybody else.

In examining the types and shadows of the Old Testament I have often considered the example of Elijah and Elisha.  We all know the story that when Elijah was about to be raptured, Elisha went to follow him and requested a double portion of his blessing and Elijah told Elisha that this was a difficult thing but if he saw him when he was taken then it would be granted to him.

Ok, so here is what I have considered - I am also going to borrow from another scripture before I lay it out.  John 12:28-29 “Father, glorify Your name.” Then a voice came from heaven, saying, “I have both glorified it and will glorify it again.” Therefore the people who stood by and heard it said that it had thundered. Others said, “An angel has spoken to Him.”

So in this scripture when God’s voice comes from heaven  we see 3 types of people- those who couldn’t distinguish it from thunder, some who understood it as an intelligible voice but didn't’ realize it was God, and then those who actually knew it was God’s voice.

So here is what I have considered - what if the rapture launches the ministry of the 144,000?  What if raptured Elijah is the picture of the church?  The majority of the world will likely think aliens snatched us or something (those without spiritual understanding, like those who only heard thunder). Some other might understand what happened to us (like those who perceived a voice but thought it was an angel) and then there are the 144,000 - what if they actually SEE us go like Elisha saw Elijah go?  What if the picture is that of the mantle of the church’s ministry falling on the 144,000 like Elijah’s mantle fell upon Elisha.

Elisha did receive the double portion and this would also align with the latter day pouring out of the Holy Spirit prophesied in Joel that so many people are looking for.  I think this happens for the 144,000 and they work in a double portion of the spiritual gifts.  I wonder if this is how God seals them for ministry by letting them witness our departure.

I have often speculated that they are Hebrew fence sitters that have heard the gospel and maybe have even been taught about the rapture and considered it but just have not committed to the truth of the Gospel presented to them and I wonder if witnessing the rapture of the church will be the final witness to them to tell them to get off the fence and get in the game - what do you think?]]></content:encoded>
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                        <title>RE: 2022 Tribulation?</title>
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                        <pubDate>Thu, 19 May 2022 20:37:08 +0000</pubDate>
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                        <title>RE: 2022 Tribulation?</title>
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                        <pubDate>Sat, 30 Apr 2022 10:14:33 +0000</pubDate>
                        <description><![CDATA[But of that day and hour no one knows is Matt 24:36 and was written to the Jews, not the Church, so He is referring to His Second Coming, not the rapture.]]></description>
                        <content:encoded><![CDATA[<em>But of that day and hour no one knows</em> is Matt 24:36 and was written to the Jews, not the Church, so He is referring to His Second Coming, not the rapture.]]></content:encoded>
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