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No Other Rock! on "WATER or FIRE Which One Are We Saved From ?"

No Other Rock! — Tue, 01 Feb 2011 22:10:38 +0000

Thank you Tom for these faith building words, and reminder and encouragement to have right choices and priorities before the Lord!

This world holds nothing for us for those who believe!

Victory Chanter on "WATER or FIRE Which One Are We Saved From ?"

Victory Chanter — Tue, 01 Feb 2011 01:36:30 +0000

Amen and Amen!

Tom on "WATER or FIRE Which One Are We Saved From ?"

Tom — Fri, 28 Jan 2011 19:48:15 +0000

KM thanks for he kind words. You have added some great info also. I like the idea of water and fire being used both for judgement and for blessings. What an awesome God we serve.

Knight Michael on "WATER or FIRE Which One Are We Saved From ?"

Knight Michael — Fri, 28 Jan 2011 06:25:31 +0000

That is an interesting study Tom. A couple of thoughts came to my mind.

Both Water and Fire can be destructive forces. Both Water and Fire can wipe away the old to make way for the new. Water in the form of a massive Tsunami can wash away the works of man and nature alike. Forest fires can do likewise, burning homes, businesses and nature alike.

Jesus compared himself to Living Water. Life on this planet would be impossible without fresh sources of drinking water. Both plants and animals would die without it.

Jesus also compared himself to Light. He is the Light of the World. Again, without the "fire" of the Sun life here on earth would be impossible. For we need both the light for things to grow and to see and we also need warmth.

Water is seen in three forms. Solid: ice, Liquid: water and Gaseous: steam.

Scriptures tell us that we are baptised in water, fire and spirit

Luke 3:16(NASB)

John answered and said to them all, "As for me, I baptize you with water; but One is coming who is mightier than I, and I am not fit to untie the thong of His sandals; He will baptize you with the Holy Spirit and fire.

Water cleanses us, The Holy Spirit seals us and Fire purifies us. Such as when gold, which is a precious metal, is melted in order to burn off the dross and purify the metal remaining. We have been cleansed by water baptism, burying our old self and rising up to walk in newness of life. We have been sealed as a promise of our future redemption by the Holy Spirit. We will be refined or purified at the Bema Seat judgment. Where we will be rewarded for what we have done to further His kingdom. The wood, hay and stubble of our selfish motives will be burned away.

So even though both Water and Fire are used as a global form of judgment by God. Removing the wicked from the face of the earth. We have no fear in that regard. For if God saves the righteous such as Noah and his family and Lot and his family, He can save us in a similiar fashion. For God's nature does not change. He is both righteous and merciful. He is both judge and advocate on our behalf. You made an interesting point about only half of Lot's family escaping judgment. All in all a well thought out study. Two thumbs up!

Tom on "WATER or FIRE Which One Are We Saved From ?"

Tom — Fri, 28 Jan 2011 03:43:56 +0000

WATER OR FIRE ??? Which one are we saved from??

Do you believe the Lord will keep revealing more and more understanding to those watching for His return as The Day gets closer???

During the Spring and Fall times of the year, I have searched for a sure seven day sign from God, giving us a "heads up" to the rapture. I have believed for many years that ALL those faithfully watching would see and agree together that He had surely given the " warning sign" whatever that sign is.

As I was thinking about the differences between the story of Noah and Lot, like a bolt of lightning, I could clearly see what the difference was and how it may apply to the warning period for the Bride of Christ before the rapture.

Fact one. Noah and his family were warned 7 days before the the START of the destruction of the Earth and all living beings.

Fact two. This destruction was accomplished by WATER, after which God promised He would never judge all of mankind again by this method.

Fact three. Noah and his family were not taken out of the world, but were protected (covered by the ark) from the destruction and judgment of the world.

Fact four. There were 8 people saved in all which is the number of a new beginning.

What about the facts of the story of Lot???

Fact one. Lot was warned the night before (less than 24 hrs) that God was going to destroy Sodom and Gomorrah.

Fact two. The destruction was accomplished by FIRE.

Fact three. Lot and his family were led by the hand completely out of the destruction zone , not just protected inside the zone as Noah and his family were.

Fact four. Not all of Lots family were saved. (two son in laws and his wife) Should have been six but were only three saved.

What are my conclusions of these two pictures of Gods pattern of judgment and His salvation from that judgment???

The first thing that is clear to me is the difference between judgment by WATER and judgment by FIRE. God saved Israel from destruction by Pharaoh by using the WATERS of the Red sea. Thus, the picture of Noah and the flood parallel Gods salvation of His Chosen people from the world of sin and slavery.

The next difference I see is the parallel of Noah and his family being protected from the consequences of the flood just as the remnant of Israel will be protected from the FIERY judgment of the wrath of God during the time of Jacobs trouble, ( this is the seven day/year warning period) and their eventual NEW BEGINNING during the millennium (there's that number 8).

God did not take Noah and his family out of the judgment zone, just as He will not take the remnant out of the tribulation zone of the 70th week of Daniel.

However, God did take Lot out of the judgment zone and did provide a way of escape for all his family but half of them rejected the terms of salvation. (FAITH)

It would seem to me that the story of Lot is a picture of the Church taken out of the fiery judgment zone of the seven year tribulation, and, the part of his family that rejected the terms of salvation and would not be led by God from the fires of destruction, represent those who call themselves "Christian" but are not. Lots wife is the saddest of all. She actually followed her husband out of the judgment zone, but she could not turn her back on the things of the world. They were more important to her than salvation.

I pray that no one reading this article loves the things of the world more that they love Jesus. If those words convict your heart as you read them, it is not too late. Repent, turn your back on the things of the world and fix your eyes on Jesus. His arms are open still. Run to Him.

And so it will be at the rapture of the Church/Bride. We may have a short" night before" sure warning. Those who have placed their faith in the Lord Jesus Christ/Yeshua Ha Machiach will be taken out of the judgment zone to be with the Lord forever. And just like the inhabitants of Sodom and Gomorrah, none of the unbelievers will be taken out of the fiery judgment zone. However, just like Noah and the Ark, there will be a remnant that will be sealed and protected during the time of the tribulation, and to then enter the new beginning ( the number 8) of the millennium.

If the rapture is this year, then I for one believe we will have our warning the night/day before it occurs.

What say ye???