Why are people the way they are and think the way they think? I have been in Law Enforcement for the past 23 years. Before that I worked nuclear weapons in the US Air force. During my years I have had a lot of dealings with mental patients. I guess as a police officer and investigator you look at things differently. The probabilities and the odds. So I would like to share some of my insights.

The first thing you learn as a police officer. We would make auto theft or robbery calls every day. The person would say their purple Chrysler or orange mustang was stolen. You would think oh that's good it will be easy to find because it will stand out. That is until you start looking for it. Then you see the same exact type and color car every other block. You see people have a filter and they don't really notice until its put in your face. I would think there we almost no orange mustangs until I started looking for one, then I would see them everywhere. Now people bring up see military equipment or a certain number or anything. You probably saw them all the time but didn't notice until someone put it in the front of your mind. Then you are seeing it everywhere. It's not that it has increased its just now you look for it.

When you investigate a crime or anything for that matter you can't get hung up on one thing, and every witness remembers it different. But when you get into it and disregard the stupid and outrageous it is what it is. The investigator joke that shows how simple it is, when investigating a homicide, the person responsible was the last person with the victim. It doesn't matter why or what someone else saw or this or that, cut to the chase.

Which is easier to believe: that HAARP is a radio ionosphere research by the university of Alaska, USAF and Navy to research better communications between ships and planes. OR a top secret facility to cause world wide earthquakes and drought to depopulate the world?

That some kid named Michael Coombs in Australia claimed he predicted a tsunami by some inside information he somehow obtained from a secret govt agency that is bent on world wide destruction. If it were true would they let this kid post this stuff about them? . Or the kid took a picture posted it on his facebook and back dated it to make it look like he predicted it. Also why is he say stand by for a 104 hour warning for the next attack. Wouldn't it be easier to tell the date now and it just be a 200 hour notice?

Why do people choose to believe the most outlandish and ludicrous scenario or the simple easy one?

Is it easier to believe in a planet x that was predicted to hit earth in 2003 but didn't happen. That the only source is coming from Zeta Talk and Stichens. That the wobble in the orbit of Neptune has already been explained as a miscalculation in the planets mass that was corrected after the voyager fly by? That NASA and the govt know about it and are preparing for doom. Ok despite all that craziness lets look at it rationally. Why are the people in govt going about their daily lives if they know of this big doom? Why would the president be trying so hard to get reelected if it's all getting ready to end? Why are the stories it can only be seen in infrared or from antartica to explain why no one can see it? Why would these people in the know keep doing anything? You might say it to put up a show so no one would catch on. Maybe to an extent but not like this. Or is planet x a hoax put on by a few people to make money there is no threat the govt is not tracking it and that's why everyone acts like nothing is going to happen.

I know there is allot of junk on the Internet. But sometime it is just what it is. You don't have to believe the crazy story over the truth .

OK, Here I go...I can't resist....

Why do people believe in government conspiracies?

Why did Building 7 fall into its own footprint in 8 seconds like a perfectly demolished building when it wasn't hit by a plane on 9/11?

When most people with their eyes open Say "government" they are NOT talking about DMV workers, police officers, etc.

We are talking about the Elite, the NWO, the true "beast" government thats runs world, starts wars, commits false flags, etc.

Of course there is a satanic Agenda, an Illuminati Agenda, an end time "beast" aganda. This includes the stripping of american's rights, the killing of aborted children, and so much more.

Here is just ONE video in  a long list. WATCH IT if your eyes are closed.

Watch if you think a bunch of "crop dust airplane" flying Arabs expertly, perfectly piloted large aircraft into Twin Towers and the Pentegon.

My grampa was sprayed, admitedly, by the GOV with agent orange in the Bay Area, ca, many years ago.

The beast sytem is a conspiracy.

Obama taking away OUR rights IS a conspiricy.

9/11

7/7 london

You either have your EYES open or you don't.

If you trust the NWO, satan worshiping, mass killing elite, GOOD LUCK.

These things could be correlation. One of the earliest lessons in science class is that correlation does not always mean causation.

There are two possibilities,

That a crew of 20-30 men drilled holes and weakend supports and placed explosives on the main support beams on every floor, working for a month in a crowded office building. Running detonation cords from all the set charges to outside the building. Then when concrete and steel was raining down and killing everyone outside from the trade center collapse one person stayed and set off the sequence of charges to bring down this building.

Or the building collapses from all the structural damage done to it by the trade center collapse.

This is why God gave us common sense.

And besides that is the original sin by Satan to become like God. Do you think that God would allow man the power to cause earthquakes, tsunamis. We diminish Gods power by saying we can do what he does.

But yes there is a conspiracy by the evil powers to restore the Roman Empire. To do this America needs to be destroyed. Destroy it's power, have it pull it's military from Europe and the rest of the world. To turn its own citizens against it.

You know the USA is the most hated nation in the world and the most hated nation by its own people. It's citizens have more freedom than any others in the world and they hate their own Country. That is the evil. Once America is destroyed the last empire of the antichrist can rise.

I know gossip sells and it's way juicy to believe in the stupidly serious than the simple truth. You know why govt employees don't believe in the junk. It's because we are there, there are no secret meetings where we talk about subjugating the populous. It's just silly. And if you still believe in that junk I got some prime swamp property I want to sell you.

I could not resist Curtis. 

Some of the silliest things on this webiste, The Olympics opening Ceremony to open up and demons fighting. Wha a joke. Olympics has been awesome.

Now these are the same people prophecising that there will be a HUGE terrorist attack at the closing ceremony.

This site is becoming more and more of a conspiracy nuthouse everyday, hence I visit it less and less...

I was in the Air Force for 4 years... Was in a lot of Highly classified rooms. No conspiracy there either...

I have to agree with Curtis.  Sometimes there are other explanations for what is going on other than gov't corruption (of which we have that) and satanic interference (plenty of that too).  Personally, I don't trust our gov't and I'm sure there is a lot going on that we know nothing about.  But, I think that we are so keyed to look for spiritual signs and end times events that perhaps we read more into things than really are. Suffice it to say that satan's agenda is certainly to destroy the USA, Israel and the effectiveness of Christians and the gospel message. 

There is no doubt that the Olympic opening ceremony this go around was overtly occultic. That combined with the refusal to allow a minute of silence for the slain Israeli athletes killed 40 years ago and the fiasco with Jerusalem listed as the capital of Palestine just left my interest cold this time around.  I don't know about terrorist attacks during the closing ceremony or a tsunami predicted to hit New Zealand and California.  I just know that God is in control and until I hear that shofar, here I am to do whatever it is I'm supposed to do. (still trying to figure that out!)

Yep this place is getting like before it's news, rumor mill, above top secret etc. and those are some real nuts over there.

You know instead of causing droughts, tsunamis and earthquakes, chemtrails to kill everyone off they don't like. Wouldn't it be easier to give everyone a virus and only give the antidote to their people. That would solve it all in about a week. But they are smarter than us with their 100 yr plan to kill us off 30 at a time with an earthquake machine.

Curtis, in all fairness, just because you aren't having "secret meetings" or whatever at work (I gather from your wording that you are a gov't employee?) doesn't mean there are not gov't conspiracies.  My mom was considered a gov't employee, too (she worked at a mental hospital), but I wouldn't expect her to have known anything about workings that were intended to undermine the American people as a whole, either.

I'd like to say, humbly, that your tone seems to be getting pretty snarky.  If you have something to say, please say it in love....not in a tone that makes it seem like you just want to point out how stupid everyone is. 

And before you start saying how RITAN is becoming like so many other websites that you evidently don't think are great....please keep in mind that among rapture-related websites, RITAN is the most friendly, loving, sincere of them all.  If you feel more comfortable in an environment where nobody EVER is allowed to consider the extraordinary out loud, there are other rapture websites that fit the bill.

Ya know...we're all just here trying to gauge the current conditions to the best of our abilities.  None of us are perfect at it.

I wish now that I hadn't given my "vote of thanks" for the original post...I definitely don't support the tone this thread has taken.

The moderators make every attempt to keep the site free from conspiracy-theory type material.  At times it may be a matter of opinion about whether someone has gone overboard or is merely expressing an opinion.  It is our desire that people should feel free enough to post in a safe environment, which includes not being subjected to personal attacks.

I would recommend that if you see a post you find really offensive in that regard, then report it to the moderators.  If it does not agree with our purpose statement, it may be removed.

I agreed with the original premise of the topic as well:  Not everything is due to a government conspiracy.  But if you think a poster is getting too far "out there," then gentle correction and reason is the way to go.

LoL

Jesus was a conspiracy theorist too.

John 7

⁹ Has not Moses given you the law? Yet not one of you keeps the law. Why are you trying to kill me?”

²⁰ “You are demon-possessed,” the crowd answered. “Who is trying to kill you?”

LoL Jesus was called a "crazy demon possessed" guy because HE CALLED OUT the conspiracy while all the sheeple around him were CLUELESS.

Rules to follow to not be a SHEEPLE.

1. Don't get all your info from MSM

2. Don't discount a theory before careful consirderation of the evidence

(saying something "isn't so" when you have never examined evidence is the HIGHEST form or ignorance and arrogance.)

3. Don't blindly apply Occam's razor

(this is a supernatural world the "razor" has NO PLACE in it.)

Apply to bible and throw out all divine intervention.

Apply to conspiracy and oh, um, ":sure there was only one shooter, who shot like 6 shots in 2 seconds from a building WAY up in the air"...no conspiracy.(JFK)

As Christians we need to wake up. there are going to be many camps in heaven after rapture.

Those that believed in rapture/those that didn't

those that had eyes to see the devil at work/those who didn't

NO ONE is saying satan/nwo controls all weather/earthquakes.

To a sheeple christian, everything, EQ, storm, accidents, looks like God's judgment.

To secular sheeple everything looks like what the MSM says it is.

To a person that takes to time and effort to overcome ignorance, the truth is something sheeple can't handle.

Let's not forget our GOV imparted many sick and demented NAZI scientist and put them to work in  the USA after the war too.

...theories about missiles not planes hitting the twin towers (where are the original planes and people ~ this is just flat out disrespectful of all those families left behind and those who died),  or semi-trucks loaded with "huge plastic coffins" (I live in the midwest and know what a plastic cattle water trough is!) I am concerned for these people.

Thank you!

I get so irritated when I hear people say that 9-11 was orchestrated by the government and a big conspiracy. Which government? Setting up planned demolitions take months and months for just a small building. President Bush didn't even have all his administration in place for a few months into 2001, and then he was kind of distracted with that whole Chinese captured one of our vessels thing. Logically, I guess it would have had to have been the Clinton adminstration, but to what end? Or was it just the CIA, and were they planning this for years?  The number of people that would have to be involved in such a conspiracy and cover-up would have to be in the hundreds, if not the thousands. What about the newspapers in the Middle East that declared the Great Satan would soon be punished by OBL just prior to 9-11? What about the fact that OBL vowed to finish the job that was started when the WTC was bombed in 1993? What about the fact that 5 Middle Eastern men took off running from a plane in California and through LAX when the pilot announced that the flight was canceled as all planes were grounded following the attacks?  I saw this on the Discovery Channel, not from our news media. This was a little-reported fact, and supports the reports that there was another attack coming from the west coast. An attack on Los Angeles perhaps?

I have friends that fly for United and American and one of them knows at least one of the flight attendants that died in one of the plane crashes. She called her husband from the plane. Was she lying to him before she died? Was her husband lying about her phone call, and why would he? Did she take a big payout from the evil government? She just left her husband and kids for a big fat lie?  Then all those other calls were fabricated? All those goodbyes were all fake?

A co-worker of mine out of DC happened to be driving when the plane flew over him and crashed into the Pentagon. He saw it with his own eyes.  He thought something was totally wrong because the plane was accelerating, and he thought he was going to get hit, since it was flying way too low. He called the office because people had stopped right on the freeway and were climbing out of their cars in total shock--he told a co-worker on the phone that he just saw a plane crash into the Pentagon--this was before it was on the news. He couldn't get through to 911 because the lines were jammed.  There is an apartment building nearby where people heard the acceleration of the plane and ran to their windows. Living close to the airport, they were used to sounds of planes, but accounts from some said this was different--it was going faster, so they looked out their windows.  It is all on the web, as are photos of the debris, in the official and non-official accounts. There are photos of large hunks of plane. You can even see the livery of the airline on some of the pieces. There are photos of the debris field, and you can see the hole where the plane flew into the Pentagon. It was not a missile. It was an accelerating plane.  You can see parts of it. The media was in possession of these photos and the statements of those who saw it happen, but for some reason, let the conspiracy theories grow little legs. The media disgusts me.

If it were just the government, a couple empty planes, and unknown victims, then maybe. But a conspiracy of this scope would include engineers, police, fire, military, FBI, CIA, Port Authority, the victims and their families,  hundreds of witnesses, airline workers, FAA, governors, mayors, politicians of all stripes (some who hated GWB, I might add), the news media, with their footage with the second plane hitting the Tower (ditto about hating GWB), the President of the United States and all his administration--just for starters. It is patently ridiculous. Oh and apparently someone didn't tell OBL and his lieutenants because they took credit for it after the invasion of Afghanistan.

Good grief, Charlie Brown. Someone puts up some videos--carefully edited-- take quotes out of context, plaster them all over Youtube and conspiracy sites, and people just swallow it hook, line, and sinker.  I particularly like the one with the not-to-scale (har, har) model of the Twin Towers made out of chicken wire. I cannot believe that is even taken seriously. Oi vey.

The questions I posed are not to any poster, but to people like Rosie "fire can't melt steel" O'Donnell,  Michael Moore, and Charlie Sheen.  

I believe that Christians largely have a better sense of discernment because of our God. :)

Rules to follow to not be a SHEEPLE.

1. Don't get all your info from MSM

2. Don't discount a theory before careful consirderation of the evidence

(saying something "isn't so" when you have never examined evidence is the HIGHEST form or ignorance and arrogance.)

3. Don't blindly apply Occam's razor

(this is a supernatural world the "razor" has NO PLACE in it.)

Apply to bible and throw out all divine intervention.

Apply to conspiracy and oh, um, ":sure there was only one shooter, who shot like 6 shots in 2 seconds from a building WAY up in the air"...no conspiracy.(JFK)

MJ, I actually do agree with your list, even though I cited "Occam's razor"  earlier.  I suppose a lot depends upon one's interpretation of "blindly" in #3. 

The Wikipedia website says this:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Occam%27s_razor

The principle is often incorrectly summarized as "other things being equal, a simpler explanation is better than a more complex one." In practice, the application of the principle often shifts the burden of proof in a discussion.<sup class="reference" id="ref_anone">[a] The razor asserts that one should proceed to simpler theories until simplicity can be traded for greater explanatory power. The simplest available theory need not be most accurate. Philosophers point out also that the exact meaning of simplest may be nuanced.<sup class="reference" id="ref_bnone">[b]

The unbeliever will "naturally" insist that the simplest explanation eliminates the supernatural.  The believer will just "believe."

For me, my reference is always Scripture, and if something supernatural is recorded in the Bible then I have no problem accepting that as authoritative and true.  However, when people make claims of the supernatural in non-Biblical contexts, then I want to be somewhat more careful before I proclaim that natural laws have been suspended.  If no natural explanation can be found, then I gladly move on to other possibilities.  But perhaps that's what you were referring to?  I also believe God can employ natural circumstances to achieve supernatural results, as in Divine timing.

Also, I am open to allegations of conspiracy.  For example, I have never thought the JFK case passed the smell test.  There were far too many "coincidences" to satisfy me.  On the other hand, a believable conspiracy can't involve too many people because humans are remarkably unreliable at keeping secrets for long.

Anyway, I think we're pretty much in agreement on the matter;  I just thought it might help to clarify.

David

Interpreting further to help the discussion which is of great importance here.  People in general are saying that all posters need to be responsible with their posts and not bring fear-mongering scare tactics to Rita Now.  In effect, checking their posts before posting to be sure that's not all it is; fear mongering. Sources need to be checked for responsibility in reporting.  Is this from a trustworthy source?  Check it out first.

Be careful not to get on the bandwagon to add rumor and gossip type posts to stir the pot further.  Question sources and claims of the poster when it comes to reporting questionable things--like Planet X or conspiracy theories or government related or military news.  The military has been hit lately.  Remember those who are here...many are military connected and offended with some of the silly statements made in general. We've been blessed they have come to set us straight and ease aroused fears with truth.

Curtis, Shomer Caleb and Bluebadal, thank you for bringing truth many don't know to return us to sanity.  You are greatly appreciated.  We need your input and perspectives.  Curtis, thank you for beginning this much needed discussion we can all learn from.  When it comes to police and military issues we have no foundation to guide us.  We need to hear your perspectives.  It reassures us .  What a blessing it is to receive from you.  We salute you and thank you for your service to our country and to each of us here in America and at Rita Now!  Who doesn't want to believe and acknowledge God is still in control.  Some subjects do get carried away on.  All of us can avoid going there.

It all comes back to being responsible for our posts.  I hope everyone reads this and takes it to heart.  A much needed thread here at Rita Now.

Dreams and visions-- not every dream is a prophecy and some can get really silly.  Use some sort of guide in determining the need of posting.  Question yourself as to how it will sound.  Some want to report every dream they've ever had daily.  That goes too far.  Judge yourselves first.  We don't like to delete and make people feel bad.  We try not to do too much.  If you could, please use good judgement in posting.   It would help everyone so much.

What's being asked here is to be responsible for posts made, subjects brought.  Don't promote conspiracy type posts that frighten people.  Forget rumor and gossip items.  Fear- mongering type news.  Stick to the facts.  Be sure they are correct and properly from a trustable source.  A quick summary of points.

A big thanks to those who know the difference and point out the truth.  People are wondering and hungering for truth.  We must all use discernment, posters and readers .

Government stories are especially getting out of hand.  Why?  Because people don't know what to believe and want to know why things are happening.  Fear is involved.  Panic occurs. Thank you to those who straighten us out through their own expertise to restore peace and calm.  Much of this can be avoided by thinking through what we post. We are thankful to have so many areas of expertice to draw from here.  That's a blessing.

Mods will need to do more deleting if things get too hyped up or overplayed.  Please understand if your article or post is deleted .  It's not an attack on you.  Someone decided a judgement call is all.  Judgement calls aren't easy to do as we all see things differently and we don't have time to respond personally to each one on why.  We need your understanding if it happens to you.

The "Report" button is there to be used if you find something questionable needing to be seen and decided on.  Help us find questionable posts. 

 We don't have to agree but this America that you good folks are claiming to support. Please don't abuse and call those who you don't agree with names.We all belong to the Lord and are brothers and sisters here. The Spirit doesn't give the same gifts to everyone so to think that because you dont see something that others do, they must be wrong. Does this make you a judge and wise? I can accept that you dont agree with someone, why threaten censorship? Neither be offended unless you have a part in some wrongdoing...Are you verifying that every service member wherever has not done wrong? As far as fear goes... I detected no fear in the postings. If someone is afraid, they need to pray. The truth can be frightening to those who don't have a good understanding. This doesn't mean that it should be hidden. God bless you and I hope that you can forgive those who anger you and say things you dont agree with.

1Co 4:5 Therefore judge nothing before the time, until the Lord come, who both will bring to light the hidden things of darkness, and will make manifest the counsels of the hearts: and then shall every man have praise of God.

At one time in history men tried to conspire against God,by building a tower in Babel.But God had them disperse over the world by changing their laungages that they didn't understand.

This tradition shall continue,until the second coming of our Lord.

Jordan,

Just to be clear because you are fairly new here, we've been referring to posts in general.  There is no fear mongering in this thread.  You are right about that.  It's an 'in general' type statement covering  some past topics.  Mods do have the option of deleting posts.  You agreed to this when you registered.  Sometimes judgement calls are called for.  We don't like doing it and don't want to go there but the option needs to remain open. Let me give some examples.

Sometimes the internet isn't the best avenue to express ourselves because we miss voice, tone, facial expressions, etc.  Sometimes someone is teasing  in a remark but another takes it seriously and is offended when that wasn't the intent at all.  Or maybe a statement is made like, "the military" which is all-inclusive, when maybe only one or a few are involved.  Or maybe someone assumes "the military" are doing something they aren't because they don't know all the details and have assumed wrong.  People want to believe the military are protecting them and when someone carelessly makes a remark that sounds like they aren't, that causes unnecessary fear in some.  That's the sort of thing that needs correcting.  Don't report sensationalism is all we are saying here.

No, we aren't authorities that know everything but if something is questionable, could cause fear, or is silly or will cause strife..the option remains open.  Just so you know.

No threat was intended--just a statement of what we all know could happen in certain circumstances.  Some sources aren't appropriate for reliability purposes .  What has been said here is that some posts shouldn't be here because they cause inaccurate responses of others.  They cause gossip and rumor to spread.  Or they may frighten some unnecessarily over nothing but someone's imagination working overtime.

We're simply asking members to act responsibly and there's nothing wrong in reminding each other of this.  We prefer each does this for him/herself but we can act if there's a question or a need.  I hope this clarifies the answer to your concern.

Love and blessings Brother,

VC

The reason people believe so strongly in conspiracy is because there is a Satan who is alive and well on Planet earth .

And The WORD states : The Human Heart is desperately wicked , who can understand it .

 And again the Word warns :  There is nothing good in the flesh , no not anything .

 From satan and the flesh and wickedness comes Conspiracy .

 I ask , "how can we not expect conspiracy with The Word having warned us so seriously of it's effects on earth ?

  let's see !!

 The Spanish Inquisition was conspiracy

The Russian Revolution was conspiracy

The President Lincoln's murder was conspiracy

President Kennedy's murder was conspiracy

 Robert Kennedy's murder was conspiracy

 Martin Luther King's murder was conspiracy

 The 911 Event was conspiracy

Pearl Harbor was conspiracy

Hitler's invasion of Poland , Austria, & France was conspiracy

Communism is conspiracy

Cuba's overthrow was conspiracy

 Every bank robbery in every town is conspiracy

 Drug cartels are conspiracy

 When a president of the United States of America can break the law often without recompense that is conspiracy .

Every time a judge is paid off that is conspiracy .

 You are in LAW Enforcement ? And you do not understand why so many are suspicious of conspiracy ?  I wonder why there is so little in the newspapers about the NWO order ?...and then I think ...."oh yeah , they have bought the Press !" ......conspiracy .....

good show to watch on television : Dominique Dunne , every show about conspiracy of one kind or another !!

Well said Bonnie! Thank you!

Curtis B,

I would just like to address a couple of points you brought up about earthquakes and the trade centers requiring miles of detonation cord. I didn't read the entire post so if this information is a repeat please forgive. Nikola Tesla, if you're not familiar with him, was a electrical engineer, physicist, invetor, a brilliant mind  the list goes on, created a machine in 1897 that could created an earthquake. This is fact. Second point. The World Trade Centers were designed/engineerd to withstand an impact from a large aircraft without collapsing because of how tall they were. Point two, they have remote RF detonation devices that do not require miles of det cord they are not commonly used in typical demolition scenarios because they're expensive. Why people believe what they believe regarding conspiracy theories is sometimes because they have solid factual evidence to back them up. The facts are out there. 

Engineers who have investigated the collapses generally disagree that controlled demolition is required to understand the structural response of the buildings. While the top of one of the towers did tilt significantly, it could not ultimately have fallen into the street, they argue, because any such tilting would place sufficient stress on the lower story (acting as a pivot) that it would collapse long before the top had sufficiently shifted its center of gravity. Indeed, they argue, there is very little difference between progressive collapse with or without explosives in terms of the resistance that the structures could provide after collapse began.[2][44] Controlled demolition of a building to code requires weeks of preparation, including laying large quantities of explosive and cutting through beams, which would have rendered the building highly dangerous and which would have to be done without attracting the attention of the thousands of people who worked in the building.[6][45] Controlled demolition is traditionally done from the bottom of buildings rather than the top, although there are exceptions depending on structural design. There is little dispute that the collapse started high up at the point where the aircraft struck. Furthermore any explosives would have to withstand the impact of the airliners.

Correction I was copying from an article. He didn't tell me.

Curtis,

Do you happen to have the source for those articles?  We can edit them in if you'll post them.  The content is fine; we just need to give the correct attribution.  Thanks!