Dear All:

1) We all know that G-d allowed the second Passover to be observed for those who were not ready for the first one. I'm not sure whether the second Firstfruits and Pentecost were allowed as well. If they were, the second Pentecost is July 3/4, since the real first Pentecost was June 3/4.

2) As Nisan began, so many special heavenly signs such as the Supermoon, the Annular Eclipse, the Transit of Venus...appeared and this unusal appearance continues until July 2. To me, this shows that the second Pentecost could be the Appointed Time.

3) This coming Independence Day happens to be a full moon. I know there are different opinions whether "in the top of it's phase" is a new moon or a full moon. John Lawler thought it's a full moon when he received it. There are some other people who had dream/vision that a big explosion could occur very soon. It's very possible that the force of NWO might pick this date for a false flag nuclear terror.

4) If this is the case, Charity's <5,6,7,Jesus!> could be Tammuz 5,6,7,8 (June 25,26,27,28). She also saw a door of the ark was being shut with a loud "BANG". It means that the Judgment could begin 7 days later, and it's July 4.

5) A very reliable guy, Jerry had a dream/vision a while ago that the Rapture happens on one of holidays like Memorial Day, Independence Day or Labor Day when a big explosion(possibly nuclear) occurs.

6) Jan Mikael had a dream/vision in 1998 that the Rapture happens while firework of celebration (possibly Independence Day) is going on, then missiles begin to fly.

Again, this is just a theory, not a date setting.

See you soon,

Elliot

Hi Elliot, For me, I am speculating fall..only because of dreams I have had. I have thought about the 5, 6, 7, 8 and wondered if it is May, June, July, August...months rather than days. Time will tell of course. Some have had dreams indicating possible rapture time around July 4th. Thank you for the info in your post...good reminder to keep watching. God bless, Jan

Elliot, thank you for such an interesting and encouraging post! I would like to add another one to your list, which is similiar to your number 5.

A couple of years ago or so, there was a post from Diane over at Five Doves, and she had said that she had a strong impression which she believed came from the Lord concerning the timing of His return on a Christian feast day, because of the fact that He is coming for a gentile bride. Usually we think of a Christian feast day as Christmas or Thanksgiving, but what about the 4th of July? The 4th is full of feasting all over the nation: Picnics at the park, families getting together to BBQ, people at the beaches, with their coolers full of food and drinks, and people just getting together to celebrate with feasting and fireworks.

There have been many prophesies about the U.S. being destroyed during the tribulation because of the sin of this nation: abortions, adultery, fornication, pornography, ****, **** marriages, and so on. I was just thinking, wouldn't it be ironic if the rapture came on a day where this nation is celebrating it's independence, right before the tribulation comes and judgement is prounounced on the U.S.?

The 4th of July works for me. But one of my theological rules is that God's rules should work for the entire Body of Christ, not just Americans. God wants me to have a new Mercedes? Does that work in Somalia? Likewise, the 4th of July works well for Americans, but seems unbalanced for the majority of the Church dispersed among all the nations.

On the other hand I remember Jay Leno doing his sidewalk interviews and asking people if South American's have a Fourth of July. Some of the people assumed they went from July 3 straight to July 5 because the Fourth was an American holiday. I can see God showing American's what would be going on in America on the day in their dreams and visions. I can also imagine people misinterpreting scenes of missile warware/interceptions as fireworks.

If we were going to pick an American holiday that was fitting, I would have chosen Juneteenth, the day when the last American slave was set free in Texas. Emancipation day. Partly because we will no longer be slaves to our flesh / sinful nature. Mostly because we'd already be There.

Unfortunately Lisa, those statistics are no longer entirely correct. I truly wish they were. We are still a major light in the world, but our light is dimming.

We do send out a lot of missionaries, but other countries are making a greater effort: (from 2006)

"...South Korea today sends out more missionaries than any other country except the United States. In terms of missionaries per congregation, Korea sends one missionary for every 4.2 congregations, which places it 11th in the world. (The U.S. does not rank in the top 10.)...

fair use for educational and discussion purposes
http://www.christianitytoday.com/ct/2006/march/16.28.html

We are about number 82 on a list of countries by percentage "Christian" according to wiki. And we're a spread out country, although a populous one. Interestingly, our church sends mission teams to Haiti every year, but they have a higher percentage of "Christians" than our country. Granted many of them are only nominal Christians, but then so are many of ours.

see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christianity_by_country for more information

On the other hand, see the topic about celestial events on 7/4 that I posted right after I comment on this post. I lean more towards signs in the heavens than national holidays. But I vote for ASAP. http://raptureintheairnow.com/our-mathematical-god-witness-of-the-stars/fourth-of-july-light-show

TXThom,
Thank you! Prophetic events don't necessarily revolve around American History. I think there is evidence that the Scriptures present a rather Middle Eatern perspective. I do agree that we live in exciting times.

u said this guy,jerry was reliable......what do u mean by that

Elliot you might be onto something- spaceweather is reporting on July 4 Venus is aligning with the Hyades cluster 153 light years away making it look like a supernova! Theres that 153 again!

Hi, Remnant Navi:

Thank you for the information!
It's amazing!

Remember the Nigeria plane crash(Sudden Destruction) which killed 153(Harvest) people? It happened on June 3/4. And there was the Lunar Eclipse on June 4. Were they 30 Day Warnings?

Also, remember the 11(Judgment) seconds overtime(Sudden Death) of the miraculous game? Was it a hint that the Judgment will come as a sudden death for America? And possibly on the Independence Day?

All these signs and happenings can't be coincidences!

See you soon.

Great thread guys :)
I am also looking at July 4th or the days near it because I had a dream maybe a week ago that I saw huge, colorful explosions in the sky-but they didn't look like fireworks. I remember turning on the news in the dream and everyone was in a panic.
I know this may sound silly but the reporters in the dream were talking about the new spider man movie (which comes out on the 3rd I believe) and I think it may have been just a clue as to the date... but don't quote me on this haha
Love,
Jayda

Hello, my name is Raul.

I have been looking through this website and the previous RITA forum for a couple of years now. It wasn't until I read through this thread that I knew I had to register to post my reply. I hope I can post this here, or if I have to move it please let me know.

Over the years I have had dreams involving mushroom clouds/nuclear explosions. Specifically, I have had two dreams involving fireworks and nuclear explosions.

In the first dream, I was at some sort of field sitting on a fence and I saw these very large light decorations. I got the feeling that they were firework decorations. Eventually, all of them exploded and everything around me flashed white. I was enveloped by this whiteness but I didn’t feel like I was being burned anything like that. Instead, slowly I felt that heaven itself was about to appear before me. I could still feel my body the whole time. Then I woke up.

In the second dream, I knew that it was either Independence Day (July4) or New Years. It seemed like I was looking at a scene in New York City. Someone was dressed as the Statue of Liberty and people were gathered around them. They were following the person in a procession. All of a sudden, a large explosion goes off in the background where the skyscrapers were and the person dressed as the statue of liberty simultaneously collapses to the floor.

I do not claim that these dreams were from God, but I just wanted to share them with you all. Thanks.

Thank you :)

Well Indepedance Day is right around the corner. And they are playing the 'Independance Day' movie again (Alien invasion, world coming together). I pray that we may all be Taken away soon!

Mj Rocklin, I watched your videos and found them extremely interesting. Last year I had a dream of standing in a parking lot..(now in real life, I knew where this was...it was a parking lot for a baseball stadium a few towns over from where I live) well anyways, many people where there as I watched Nibiru do laps around the sun..I could see the red wings of it on both sides. After that a huge planet that looked like earth was in the sky and headed straight for the earth. I dove to the ground...and as I did..astroids or meteorites started falling. I also saw the antichrist appear in that parking lot at this time. He was in a suit...it was a face I have not seen yet. Well, anyways, the significance of this related to a large baseball event and the trib stuck with me.

The vision video was amazing. The Lord I believe opened your eyes to seeing in the spirit. All so interesting. I think July is a month to watch. Now I want to check out the website for that baseball stadium and see what events they have scheduled for July. Alot of food for thought on this post. God Bless, Jan

Elliot, thank you for this post...I was just catching up on reading it today...very interesting responses. God Bless, Jan