I'd love to read more thought/study put into Psalm 11-19, as these seem to have more obvious reference to the rapture and the 7 year trib. Psalm 18 has exactly 50 verses to refer to the year of jubilee. I know Psalm 111-118 has a menorah to it, but does anyone who is analytical see any significance/possible menorah in the Psalm 11-18 or 19 chapters? Both series of Psalms, though, remarkably point to the same timeline (from obvious numbering of the Psalms) for the rapture and time of Jacob's trouble. I gave simplified chapter by chapter meaning of Psalm 11-19 on another thread that I copied here. I'd love to hear your thoughts and insights to this!

Psalm 11~Talks about the upright men seeing the face of the Lord.

Psalm 12~Talks about the faithful vanishing from the earth. Verse 5 has the Lord arising to place Israel in safety from the evil around them.

Psalm 13~Israel turns to God for deliverance. (Is this their time of turning their hearts toward God again?)

Psalm 14~Mentions a plea for deliverance for Israel would come out of Zion--The sealing of the 144,000 from every tribe of Israel?

Psalm 15~Asks question about who shall dwell on thy holy hill--Jerusalem. This reminds me of how God questioned Job. After the question in verse 1, it goes on to answer who does have the right to dwell on thy holy hill--description of the perfection of Jesus. Could this signify the abomination of the temple--mid-trib?

Psalm 16~Talks about being preserved from God and taking refuge in Him. Is this when the Jewish people flee from Jerusalem where God keeps them safe after the abomination?

Psalm 17~Mentions being kept as the apple of God's eye and hiding in the shadow of thy wings. Also talks about being tracked down by the enemy. Is this the time when AC tries to go after the Jews that have fled?

Psalm 18~Talks about earthquake and mountains shaking. Verses 8 and 9--smoke out of his nostrils, fire from his mouth, came down with thick darkness under his feet. Verse 10--rode upon a cherub, and did fly--upon wings of the wind. (Some think the white horses Jesus and His bride come on could be angels.) Goes on and mentions hailstones and coals of fire. Talks of him shooting out lightning. Sounds very much like Jesus' second coming. Goes on and praises God who delivered them from enemies, and shows steadfast love to David and his decendants for ever.

You can even go on to Psalm 19~Talks about the law of the Lord is perfect-reviving the soul. (The Millenial Kingdom when Jesus rules with a rod of iron?) Verses 4-6 seems to coincide with the New Jerusalem coming down from Heaven--a tent for the sun, coming forth like a bridegroom leaving his chamber, rising from the end of the heavens, nothing hid from its heat.

I'm also wondering now if there's any link to Micah 7:1-2. These verses also talk about the godly being taken from the land, and all that's left are evil men. It is verse 2 that actually mentions the godly being swept from the land. Interesting that it's the 7th chapter. The 7th verse of Psalm 11 says that the upright men will see His face. The 27th is a Tuesday, great for a Jewish wedding, as TXThom would say!

and Live4him, the very first verse of Psalm 12=January 2012? and talks about how the Godly have vanished, wow....

I'd put a High alert/watch date from now till the end of January....on an ordinary day

Eating and drinking,  also fits new years eve, into January.

Watcher for Life, the moon is either full or new every 14 days.  Almost everyday is going to be +/- 6 days to a new or full moon or 16 days from one.

Live4Him and Watcher ForLife! Both of you are doing a great job of ferreting out the rapture clues!!  I once not too long ago did a study on these 8 Psalms from 11-18; and they really do give an outline of the tribulation period-Live4Him your outline is very good and accurate!!

You should look at all the Psalm verses as they have some interesting number totals which I have some formulas on but I cannot prove anything with them!! They just have interesting figures!!

I do think that the first verse in Psalm 12 for  January 2012 has a rapture clue and I wonder what it is placed there for? 

My earthquake numbers ran out on December 21, 2011 on the first day of winter and the feast of dedication!! That was the 83rd day from the feast of trumpets and  I can only wonder what this next period of 22 days will bring from the 21st as I have found that 22 + 83 = 105 days!! This number 105 came up in my earthquake formulas on a few occassions!!  I think it is in early January 2012 when this will expire!!

After that its 188 Days from September 15, 2011 !! That will be exactly on March 22, 2012!! The end spring/summer start period!  They are saying that something big could happen on this next 188 interval!!

I hope we are not here to have to see what that big event will be!!!

Capter 12 verse 1 is a very interesting verse.  Go to Biblegateway and read this verse through all of the many translations and it gives real insight that this verse is talking about the righteous disappearing among the races of men.  It's such a clear picture of the rapture for us!  But read the rest of the chapter and after verse 1, there seems to be a picture of a quick deterioration of the morality of mankind.  After the righteous are gone, evil is actually exhaulted among men.  It truly is a very frightening picture.

Psalm 13 - Israel cries to the Lord to remember her.  She is wooed back to Him and longs for His comforting.  Because her enemies are exalting themselves over her and she is worried she might be destroyed.  But by the end She trusts in Him and rejoices in His salvation and sings praises to Him. I would guess we just saw the Ezekial 38-39 war here in the first half, probably after the Psalm 83 war woke Israel up.  She probably thought everything is going to be okay - she had handled the local guys when the big guys become serious and even more scary and God has to intervene.  Which He does, being who He is.  Whatta God.

Psalm 14 - AC and the beasts corruption of the world continues. Lots of martyrs going to Heaven as the beast and her servants devour the righteous.  Israel longs for Messiah.

Psalm 15 - Israel thinks she has found her Messiah.  She is wrong.

Psalm 16 - Israel once again puts her trust in the Lord and now recognizes the value of the Saints of God. Their drink offerings of blood reminds me of the two witness changing water to blood as well as the third bowl judgment. God is protecting Israel and she finds His protection pleasant and good. She is praising God because He has told her what to do and is a continuous shield protecting Her.  And she is looking forward to the real Messiah, Yeshua.  She glories in her new life in God and the new intimacy of Her walk with Him. I'm guessing from Petra.

Psalm 17 - Israel is once again reconciled with God and has become intimate with Him once again. Hiding under the shadow of His wings from Her enemies, once again the acknowledged Apple of His eye.  The battle of Armageddon is raised around Israel and Israel calls for the Lord to save Israel from the ones who have put all their trust in this world rather than the next. And at the end, She will see His face and will rejoice when She comes to Her own in Him.

Psalm 18 is rejoicing in the triumph of the Lord and rejoicing in Her risen Messiah - The LORD lives! Blessed be HER Rock - no longer a stumbling block or a crushing stone, but now the cornerstone of Her world.  

Psalm 19 - This is about the New Jerusalem - a tabernacle for the sun - HIM, like a Bridegroom. And the perfect Law proceeding forth bringing joy, enlightenment and righteousness.

And apparently it wasn't supposed to happen at the stroke of midnight Jerusalem time, because here I sit.  You still there??

http://bible.cc/psalms/12-1.htm - Lots of english versions all on one page. I am hoping this is in response to us disappearing at the end of 11, but it could be at the beginning of 12 as this reads, but at the very beginning and before anything else happens. If Psalms relate which they seem to do.

http://biblelexicon.org/psalms/11-6.htm - get your codex's 

It means He shall cause to rain upon.  Sounds future tense to me, but it was written in the past and the verb usage isn't going to change because it's happening now.  This could be the Psalm 83 war, with traps being laid by various forces, missles, etc.  If Damascus gets nuked, firey winds indeed.

Live4Him wrote: I am very excited about the Is. 64:1 find about Jesus coming down and being we're in the 64th year according to the dates you provided. I always thought that pertained to Jesus' 2nd coming at the Armageddon battle, but I see how it could also pertain to our rapture, too.

Live4Him, the reason I think Isaiah 64:1 pertains to the rapture is because when Jesus returns in the Second Coming, the mountains are going to do more than tremble. When Jesus sets His feet on the Mount of Olives, it is actually going to split in two!  (Zechariah 14:4)

And like you, I noticed that the verses that refer to the righteous being taken away was always on the first verse!  It reminds of of Revelation 4:1 when the church is raptured.

Guys, you do know that the Hilton hotel chain was going to build a Hotel on the top of the Mount of Olives in the early 1980's.  The plans were scrapped when they found a FAULT LINE running through the mountain.  True story, the area is too geologically unstable to build on.  There are very few buildings up there, and no modern ones that I know of.  Guess that fault is going to get active when His Feet touch down!

I too saw something about the Hebrews building some sort of visitor's center on the Temple Mount.

Wow, rereading this thread that Chris brought back up shows me that I know nothing of interpreting scripture to determine possible rapture times.I still am hopeful for a possible 2012-2018 timeline, though, based on these Psalms. They still seem so strong and obvious in their prophecy of events. Just wish I had more wisdom to interpret them at a deeper level.

It's so weird how this happens, but... I'll just tell you anyway. I have a bible in the door of my vehicle. One day last summer/fall my wife had to run into a store, so I waited in the car and opened the Bible randomly, thinking, "Lord, is this going to be for a reason?" Then I read what I had opened to: 2 Samuel 22. I understand it's a historical account, but as with the psalms there is a prophetic layer. Read through it and see if you get what I got from it. Needless to say I was excited.

Maranatha!!!

Chris

Live 4 Him wrote:

Oh, and by the way----WELCOME BREADBOY 2000!!!

Oh, and Caleb--On my way to the other thread!

Breadboy 2000~You posted more since your first one. I'll be coming back here to view that in more detail. Can't wait!!

Thank you! It's always great to be with brothers/sisters in Christ who love His appearing!

The plans were scrapped when they found a FAULT LINE running through the mountain.  True story, the area is too geologically unstable to build on.

No, Shomer Caleb, I did not know that!! Not surprising, as we know what will take place there in 7 years or so!! Very good information!

Remember Jesus said "you'll not see Me again until you say "Blessed is He who comes in the Name of the Lord." And when they look upon His face they shall weep at the one they pierced as one weeps for their firstborn.

Breadboy2000~Aren't the correlations between Psalms and other prophetic events so obviously strong?!! I just think that only God can have such perfection of words, prophecy, layers of meaning, and depth into everything He says and does. There will be no end to our learning about our God through all eternity, as there is no end to His magnificence and glory!!

2 Samuel 22 is almost identical to Psalm 18! And notice, that without the first verse of introductory, the words of David are exactly 50 verses long (just like Psalm 18)--signifying the year of jubilee!! I love it when we can so often just open up God's Word and find things that are significant to what we are presently pondering about!

Hello, Breadboy2000, (Chris), welcome to RITAN!  Yes, like you, Psalm 12 blew me away, too.  Especially verse 1!  Sure sounds like the rapture to me.

Caleb, wow, there's a FAULTLINE running through the Mount of Olives?  I didn't know that, either.  That is going to be the earthquake of ALL earthquakes when Jesus returns and his feet split that mountain in half!!

Live 4 Him, thanks for the heads up about 2 Samuel 22 and Psalm 18!  I'll have to check that out.

Live 4 Him:

Psalms 113-118 are known as the Egyptian Hallel which came to be used in Jewish liturgy at Passover, Weeks, Tabernacles, Dedication, and New Moon.  At Passover, Ps 113 and 114 were sung before the meal (before the second cup was passed) and Ps 115-118 after the meal (when the fourth cup had been filled).  The Egyptian Hallel is framed by Psalms 111-112 and 119.  Ps 111-119 are acrostics (each start with Hebrews letters in alphabetical order) Structurally, both Ps 111-112 are alphabetic acrostics, but unique in that each Hebrew half-line advances the alphabet - considered by many to be from a different author!  (NIV Study Bible)

Psalms 111-118 are the Hallelujah Psalms, Ps 111-112-113 Israel will sing to the Messiah on the day of His enthronement in Zion.  The perfection of His Works, Ways, and Person. (The Expositor's Study Bible)

Perhaps we will pass over from sin (Egypt) into a new spiritual life through the Red Sea (Rapture)?

"Curiously enough, [some scholars believe] Queen Esther's fast may have coincided with the exact days of Yeshua's crucifixion, burial, and resurrection.  Talmudic rabbis teach that all three patriarchs, Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob, were born in Nisan and passed away in Nisan, the month of Passover."  (The Feasts of Adonai - Valerie Moody)

If this is true, then Passover and Purim are Connected!

Jewish Weddings - "The fourth cup of wine was the Cup of Praise, shared between the bride and groom only during the wedding ceremony itself.  This fourth cup also awaits all those who are chosen to be the bride by Yeshua.  It will be taken on the wedding day and will forever seal Yeshua's union with His beloved."  (Lost in Translation - Rediscovering the Hebrew Roots of our Faith - John Klein & Michael Christopher)