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Dr. Jack Van Impe weighs in on this topic.
http://www.jvim.com/newsletter/pastissues/2012/20120709.html
Great controversy surrounds this position.
The Pre-Trib View
The Promise To The Church Of Philadelphia
Crowning Of The Saints -- Revelation 4:1
The Case Of The Twenty Four Elders
Holy Spirit, The Hinder, Removed
2 Thessolonians 2:1-8
'Falling Away' Discussed
Yes,Victory Chanter.
Also the fact that the Church is mentioned numerous times in Revelation 1-3;then never again after "Come up here."in Rev.4:1!(also in this verse:an open door to heaven and a trumpet sound!
Also,Jesus ends each seven Church admonitions in chapter 3 with: "He who has an ear,let him hear what the Spirit says to the seven churches."All 7 times He says this.
But then in chapter Revelation 13:9 it says,
"He who has an ear,let him hear."
Where is the church?
And the 'after these things...' in 4:1 refers to the end of the age of the church,since the whole previous chapter dealt with Church history(from Ephesus-the initial church- through Philadelphia-that's us-and Laodicea).
Also 2 Thessalonians 2:3 which says unless the falling away(Greek:apostasia,very likely translated departure,which wpould be an obvious reference to the rapture)comes first,and the man of sin is revealed." See,the rapture comes first;this also is when the Restrainer(Holy Spirit) is removed or taken away;THEN the antichrist is revealed.This order also makes sense since we are in heaven when the Lamb(Jesus)opens the first seal(beginning the Tribulation),which is the rise(not human birth,but beginning of his reign)of the AC.
It isn't such a difficult book to understand.The word revelation means to unveil,to make clear.
Well said, Robbie. It's hard for me to understand the basis for the other views out there. It seems so clear to me.
And those "other views" folks want to hammer us with from time to time here at Rita Now to tell us we're wrong and they're right. It's reassuring every time we find another confirmation to our belief. Our Lord is not a fear-monger as these other views create. It's obviously the enemy at work trying to discourage or cause doubt as well as fear. He has made promises to us.
It's our job to believe Him. And this view and cherished belief keeps us hoping, looking, ready and waiting--just as He wants us to be. Another point in weighing in favor of the pre-trib view.
So now we have another article to point to in our armor despot if needed 'next' time.
Here's a nice little sentence. Who would leave their bride in a world that's about to turn into hell?
Next event is the vanishing of the church~~
and thereafter we come back to earth 7 years later with 
when He rules & reigns as King of kings~
here's a great study and seven wonderful Truths or Bible Doctrines that are denied or trashed when someone teaches Post-Millenniumism or Dominanism.
http://www.pawcreek.org/2012/07
Fair use for discussion and educational purposes~
Oh I can't wait until that great day!
Donna,
Awesome pictures! Great way to start of the morning!!!
I was having a great discussion with a woman about the things of God the other day until I mentioned believing in the rapture and then she said, "you almost had me fooled" and turned on me.
Christopher,
Welcome to RITA brother and we are glad that you are here. This is simply amazing. My wife just shared this word with me and I will share it with you.
12 Beloved, think it not strange concerning the fiery trial which is to try you, as though some strange thing happened unto you:
13 But rejoice, inasmuch as ye are partakers of Christ's sufferings; that, when his glory shall be revealed, ye may be glad also with exceeding joy.
14 If ye be reproached for the name of Christ, happy are ye; for the spirit of glory and of God resteth upon you: on their part he is evil spoken of, but on your part he is glorified.
15 But let none of you suffer as a murderer, or as a thief, or as an evildoer, or as a busybody in other men's matters.
16 Yet if any man suffer as a Christian, let him not be ashamed; but let him glorify God on this behalf.
Our redemption is coming close brother! Keep spreading the message!
This woman believed in Christ, just not the rapture... I'm confused... Why is this seperating members of the body of Christ?
Thank you so much for the scripture... It brings comfort to me.
Christopher,
Your words just blessed my soul!
Many congregations do not preach, teach, or go into deep study of the rapture which is unfortunate and those pastors will have to stand before God and give an account. It is the same as for hell. Many Christians do not believe that a loving God will send someone to hell but we know that God does not send anyone to hell. People choose to go to hell for not believing in Jesus and refusing to live a holy life. I will pray that the Holy Spirit will touch this woman's heart.
RITA is our forum where we share our experiences and our studies in regards to the coming of the Lord. If a church doesn't teach about the pre-tribulation, it is taught and shared here. Brother, we are so close that some times my heart goes to my throat!
Main stream religion tends to shy away from anything other than the "safe" doctrinal issues. Gifts of the Spirit and the rapture are two subjects that are just too "radical" for many dead religionists.
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More and more they're admitting we're close or that we're living in the end times. They just don't get specific and use words like "now" or "rapture". I believe the concern is in possibly creating division. Or being wrong in timing. The Hope is always mentioned and looking toward the hope, the Blessed Hope, as in songs or sermons.
What a shame people can't be excited and anticipating. The teachings of being ready and growing in Christ...being the Church to others is more the focus. Personal discussions of my experience indicate people see it as we do but just aren't as vocal as we are here. I do think people are waking up to considering this more and more.
How many in the Church have recognized what is going on in Syria now is Isaiah 17 before our eyes? Those not watching TV or reading the news aren't even aware or haven't put it together with prophecy. The main discussion is the heat and humidity. You'd think that would even have them wondering what's going on as this isn't summer as normal conditions. Throw in the the wild storms and other news and you'd think they would be adding two and two by now.
But not all of the Church has been called to be watchmen. We must remember that, too. They have other callings on them. It's not that they are disinterested...it's just not their gift and they are focused elsewhere. Each is needed and serving but in different capacities.
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