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  • #129044
    Loz
    Loz
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    What’s Next in Bible Prophecy?, March 4, 2017

    Behold Israel

    Published on Mar 4, 2017

    Amir clears up the Christian confusion regarding the coming events described in the books of Psalms, Daniel, Isaiah, Ezekiel, Jeremiah, Thessalonians and Revelation!
    He also gives the details for a raffle to win a free trip to Israel and much more!

    Loz :]

    Psalm 18:2
    The Lord is my rock, and my fortress, and my deliverer; my God, my strength, in whom I will trust; my buckler, and the horn of my salvation, and my high tower.


    #129047

    Watchman35
    Participant

    I watched this video, part last night and part this morning. As is usually the case, Amir had very interesting thoughts and insights. Was going to post the video on RITAN. but my first thought was that Loz may have already done so. :Hi: And you did. Thanks.

    For me personally, I do have to comment that the way Amir talks about his Israeli tour with JD in Q4 of 2018, with no qualifying reference to a Deo Volente (Lord Willing), detracts a bit from the overall tone of credibility for me. Ultimately, I know we need to measure what he (and everyone else for that matter) says solely against the Word, and evaluate the merits of his insights regardless of any inferred presumption upon future time that we may have left here on earth. However, if he truly believes that we are on the edge of the Bride being taken home, you would think he would at least mention the possibility that Christians may not even be here for that tour in November (think he said November) of 2018. That is a very long time from now (over 20 months). To speak of it with a tone that appears to indicate no consideration of the possibility that the harpazo will take place before that tour date struck me as presumptuous.

    I am about to go the grocery store, buy food for the week, and return to the house where I live–Deo volente. How much more is an acknowledgement of Deo Volente appropriate for a video on end-times biblical prophecy that includes the mention of an Israel tour some 20 months from now? Not a big deal in the grander scheme of eternity, but it just sounded to me like a note badly out of key. :whistle:

    John 14:1-3 “Let not your heart be troubled; you believe in God, believe also in Me. In My Father’s house are many mansions; if it were not so, I would have told you. I go to prepare a place for you. And if I go and prepare a place for you, I will come again and receive you to Myself; that where I am, there you may be also."

    #129059
    Loz
    Loz
    Participant

    More than happy for others to post Amir’s videos as they pop up, it’s hard to keep up sometimes!

    I think because Amir is reasoning that Damascus falling will preclude Ezekiel 38, may colour what you described.

    I think the Rapture will happen, then Ezekiel 38 / 70th Week, etc.

    Loz :]

    Psalm 18:2
    The Lord is my rock, and my fortress, and my deliverer; my God, my strength, in whom I will trust; my buckler, and the horn of my salvation, and my high tower.


    #129061

    Mike Mc
    Participant

    Loz this is and added event from yesterday, he just posted this one… It’s about Iran.. If you have been following him you know Iran has been and Is very close to having Nukes… He starts off with them having the S-300 Missile System and this one is a Big Deal, Iran may also have the S-400 System as well, but that is my speculation…

    Wiki says this:…
    The S-400 Triumf, previously known as the S-300PMU-3, is an anti-aircraft weapon system developed in the 1990s by Russia’s Almaz Central Design Bureau as an upgrade of the S-300 family. It has been in service with the Russian Armed Forces since 2007. The S-400 uses four missiles to fill its performance envelope: the very-long-range 40N6, the long-range 48N6, the medium-range 9M96E2 and the short-range 9M96E..

    Iran is closer than ever to acquiring nuclear weapons! March 5, 2017

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    #129070
    Loz
    Loz
    Participant

    Thanks for posting this Mike Mc.

    Loz :]

    Psalm 18:2
    The Lord is my rock, and my fortress, and my deliverer; my God, my strength, in whom I will trust; my buckler, and the horn of my salvation, and my high tower.


    #129072

    Mike Mc
    Participant

    😉 Many Blessing My Brother…

    #129077

    Watchman35
    Participant

    So, according to the 2nd video from Amir posted on this thread today by Mike Mc, the S300 Russian missile defense system that the Iranians previously purchased from Russia became operational today in Iran. Amir’s assessment is that this development effectively eliminates Israel’s ability to exercise a military option in taking out the Iranian nuclear facilities. Because of that system’s effectiveness, Amir said to try to attack via air strikes now would become “a suicide mission” for Israel. So, the question has now become not whether the Iranians will develop nuclear capabilities, but rather just how quickly that will happen? One need only connect the dots to infer implications for the Ezekiel 38 & 39 invasion of Israel by Russia, Iran, Turkey, Ethiopia, and Libya.

    I imagine most of you have probably worked a large jigsaw puzzle on your dining room table or a portable card table. Assuming that is true, then you know the feeling of having just found another piece of the puzzle that fits perfectly. The Bible is like the picture on the box showing us what the finished puzzle will look like once we are able to see how all the pieces fit together. The Lord, the Master Creator of all prophetic puzzles, is piecing together His ultimate puzzle. In that way, these truly are quite remarkable times to be alive.

    John 14:1-3 “Let not your heart be troubled; you believe in God, believe also in Me. In My Father’s house are many mansions; if it were not so, I would have told you. I go to prepare a place for you. And if I go and prepare a place for you, I will come again and receive you to Myself; that where I am, there you may be also."

    #129080

    Mike Mc
    Participant

    Amir said to try to attack via air strikes now would become “a suicide mission” for Israel. So, the question has now become not whether the Iranians will develop nuclear capabilities, but rather just how quickly that will happen? One need only connect the dots to infer implications for the Ezekiel 38 & 39 invasion of Israel by Russia, Iran, Turkey, Ethiopia, and Libya.

    Now that President Trump is in Charge and not Hussein Obama, if you remember not long ago Israel received some brand new F-35 Stealth Fighters, If I were going to Speculate on this just a little.. I would say D.T. will increase that order to many more F-35’s because of the closeness and the friendships they have… also keep in mind the Sampson Option… Also a small neutron weapon’sss, in the 1 Kiloton range could knock out the lights for many miles… All speculation of coarse…

    The Embassy move in may or June is the next big thing, well to me it is…
    The Embassy Move is already sparking attention in the Muslim world, this looks like to me from what I saw earlier this is a done deal… And could be the catalyst to spark a war, Just depends If Iran gets set up in Syria with there Bases.. As Amir said these are all red flags for Israel and they can’t let this go on much longer…
    It’s getting Danger close… Especially If your looking at it from a Pre~mill and Pre~Trib view point…

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    #129090
    Savedat33
    Savedat33
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    I’m in the “embassy gets moved to Jerusalem and that’s the catalyst” boat. Simply because:

    1) There is no such thing as a “limited” or “tactical” nuclear strike. If one nation launches – at least two others will too and that just becomes total annihilation. Not to mention the area of the strike would be uninhabitable for at least 40 years and the fallout would drift around the Middle East for at least 10 years (there would be no war there because either everyone would be sick or everyone would have left).

    2) GOD is the one who defeats the coalition and He does it Biblically (fire, hail, etc)

    3) The Lord said at a “time you think not”. Iran launching missile strikes against Israel is the complete opposite of “a time you think not”. (Matt. 24:44)

    4) Israel is in a “peaceful, secure” state of mind when the coalition attacks.

    We see the coalition formed and we know it can happen at anytime. The Lord says Gog/Magog comes upon the land like a cloud. It will be over within a day. The Lord will not share His glory with anyone when He saves Israel from Gog/Magog. The only person who will take credit for it? The AC.

    I don’t think we have to worry what types of missiles Iran has because the Lord says He will break the bow of Elam (Jeremiah 49:35). :rose:

    #129091
    Heather R
    Heather R
    Moderator

    If I’m being honest, and I’m not trying to be rude at all, I really think Salus’s work has muddied this up. Jeremiah 49 is a Second Coming chapter, and it isn’t about a nuclear strike. Just like He will do with Damascus and Edom and Moab and Ammon and Tyre and Gaza, the Lord will destroy Elam and preserve the faithful remnant i.e. the sheep of the sheep and goats. Damascus will not destroyed by a nuclear weapon. It is destroyed by the wrath of God. Elam will not be destroyed by a nuclear weapon. It will be destroyed by the wrath of God.

    This is just my opinion, but I think one of the biggest eschatological mistakes many prophecy teachers are making these days is linking events of the end times to the church and the rapture of the church instead of putting them in their proper place of the Second Coming. The rapture and the church were both mysteries in the OT, and while there are veiled references, they are few and far between. Just because we have our eyes on our blessed hope does not mean that’s the correct timing for all of these other events.

    I agree with Watchman that I wasn’t very thrilled when I heard Amir talking about Nov 2018. If we are here that long, so be it. However, it’s not a great way to launch into things. Maybe I have a different perspective on it all since my research was different, but I’m not watching the signs of the times all that closely. I am aware of them, but I expect to see nothing huge before we go home. And I don’t expect to be here in November 2018. Not at all…

    Romans1:16 For I am not ashamed of the gospel of Christ: for it is the power of God unto salvation to every one that believeth; to the Jew first, and also to the Greek. 17 For therein is the righteousness of God revealed from faith to faith: as it is written, The just shall live by faith.
    #129092

    Mike Mc
    Participant

    It will be over within a day. The Lord will not share His glory with anyone when He saves Israel from Gog/Magog

    Excellent Points… :good:

    I have seen Views from both sides as to when the Rapture will take place before, Isaiah 17 and Psalms 83 or After… If this does or did happen while we, as in the Universal church body, are still here, every false church would KNOW to Repent and turn to the Lord and ask for Forgiveness of there sins immediately , I don’t see this happing simply because many will be saved out of the Tribulation ..

    #129093
    Heather R
    Heather R
    Moderator

    I get the differing viewpoints, and I won’t belabor the point, but the Bible seems really clear where Isaiah 17 is concerned.

    Amos 1:1 The words of Amos, who was among the herdmen of Tekoa, which he saw concerning Israel in the days of Uzziah king of Judah, and in the days of Jeroboam the son of Joash king of Israel, two years before the earthquake. 2 And he said, The Lord will roar from Zion, and utter his voice from Jerusalem; and the habitations of the shepherds shall mourn, and the top of Carmel shall wither. 3 Thus saith the Lord; For three transgressions of Damascus, and for four, I will not turn away the punishment thereof; because they have threshed Gilead with threshing instruments of iron: 4 But I will send a fire into the house of Hazael, which shall devour the palaces of Benhadad. 5 I will break also the bar of Damascus, and cut off the inhabitant from the plain of Aven, and him that holdeth the sceptre from the house of Eden: and the people of Syria shall go into captivity unto Kir, saith the Lord.

    Compare verse 2 to Joel 3:16.

    Joel 3:12 Let the heathen be wakened, and come up to the valley of Jehoshaphat: for there will I sit to judge all the heathen round about. 13 Put ye in the sickle, for the harvest is ripe: come, get you down; for the press is full, the fats overflow; for their wickedness is great. 14 Multitudes, multitudes in the valley of decision: for the day of the Lord is near in the valley of decision. 15 The sun and the moon shall be darkened, and the stars shall withdraw their shining. 16 The Lord also shall roar out of Zion, and utter his voice from Jerusalem; and the heavens and the earth shall shake: but the Lord will be the hope of his people, and the strength of the children of Israel.

    I would not encourage people to continue looking at Isaiah 17 as a sign of the times, like once we see that happen then we’ll know it’s almost rapture time. This is no different than hanging a hat on some other sign.

    Romans1:16 For I am not ashamed of the gospel of Christ: for it is the power of God unto salvation to every one that believeth; to the Jew first, and also to the Greek. 17 For therein is the righteousness of God revealed from faith to faith: as it is written, The just shall live by faith.
    #129094

    Mike Mc
    Participant

    I am aware of them, but I expect to see nothing huge before we go home. And I don’t expect to be here in November 2018. Not at all…

    And this would be the Bottom line… ” nothing huge before we go home ”

    The things we write here are not for us anyway, it’s for those left behind looking for answers, and to take that a step further, I would look for all this to be erased simply because of the new A.I Quantum Computers and the Cloud Technologies. It will be a different story when the Antichrist is revealed with his Global system.. The UN has this ready now.

    I really think Salus’s work has muddied this up

    Can’t disagree with that one bit…. :whistle:

    I agree with Watchman that I wasn’t very thrilled when I heard Amir talking about Nov 2018

    I saw that, But if your work is right, we only have a few Months or one two skip a few Several Months as in Sept. Or If Amir is right 2018.. But we are closer than we were in 2008, 2015… 😉

    The Embassy Move is Big to me and will see how that plays out May or June.. If we make it that far.

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    #129095

    Mike Mc
    Participant

    would not encourage people to continue looking at Isaiah 17 as a sign of the times, like once we see that happen then we’ll know it’s almost rapture time.

    Hope you don’t mind me breaking this down… to many good points to pass up…

    “once we see that happen then we’ll know”

    I don’t think we’ll see this take place…

    This is why I believe the Rapture will be the very next Big Dispensational Event on the Calendar… It doesn’t give the false church time to repent and turn to God, if you put in a Pre_Mill and Pre~Trib view..

    The Seven Church’s are the Seven dispensations Model… The only problem with this view of the church’s, is that each of the seven churches describes issues that could fit the Church in any time in its history.

    We do know that it will end with the Rapture of all born-again believers from the earth to go to heaven with Christ. Following the Rapture will be the judgments of God, as you said His Wrath, lasting for seven years, starting with the First Seal, and we know who this Guy is on the White Horse…

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