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    Loz
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    What Game is Russia Playing in Libya?

    The Russian military hosted Khalifa Hifter, the general loyal to the eastern Libyan government, onboard the aircraft carrier Admiral Kuznetsov on Jan. 11. According to the Russian Defense Ministry, Hifter was given a tour of the aircraft carrier before holding a video conference with Russian Defense Minister Sergei Shoigu to discuss ways in which Russia can help with counterterrorism. Later, Hifter reportedly signed a memorandum of understanding to supply the self-styled Libyan National Army (LNA) with first-aid kits and essential medical supplies.

    Russia appears headed toward greater involvement in Libya, a development that could have catastrophic consequences for Libya and the region.

    The Russian carrier was on its way from Syrian waters to its homeport in Russia when it stopped off the Libyan coast in Moscow’s latest move signaling its support for the LNA and its commander and the broader Libyan coalition largely opposed to the internationally recognized, UN-backed Government of National Accord (GNA) in Tripoli and the UN-brokered Libyan Political Agreement (LPA). Agilah Saleh, president of the House of Representatives in Tobruk and the coalition’s political and nominal leader, visited Moscow Dec. 13 and met with Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov and other officials. Saleh and Lavrov discussed the Libyan Political Dialogue process, implementation of the LPA, the Libyan economy, security and counterterrorism.

    Russia is trying to politically dominate the Libya file on the international stage like it did with Syria. Despite Moscow’s obvious support of the LNA and the eastern Libya-based authorities, Russia has tried to reach out to other Libyan factions and actors, including the GNA as well as Misratan leaders. There are reports that Moscow has extended invitations to GNA Prime Minister Fayez al-Serraj and Abdulrahman Swehli, president of the consultative State Council, to visit Moscow to discuss the Libyan peace process. Last June, Misratan Ahmed Maiteq, deputy president of the GNA’s presidential council, visited Moscow accompanied by the GNA Defense Minister-designate Mahdi al-Bargathi and Foreign Minister-designate Taher Syiala. In December, the Russian ambassador to Libya, Ivan Molotkov, met with the GNA Defense Minister-designate Bargathi to discuss military cooperation, including the maintenance and upgrading of Russian military hardware in Libya.

    Russia has not played a dominant role in Libya since the overthrow of Moammar Gadhafi. Rather, other powers, including the United States and Europe, and regional actors, including Egypt, Turkey, Qatar and the United Arab Emirates, have been heavily involved in Libya’s post-Gadhafi transition. Russia has, however, remained focused and engaged in Libya and is now involved there as part of its geopolitical game and expansion of its influence in the Middle East. This is also in part due to Russian companies’ commercial interests.

    It is estimated that prior to the 2011 uprising in Libya, Russian oil and gas companies and weapons manufacturers had signed contractsworth between $4 billion and $10 billion. Russia’s engagement in post-Gadhafi Libya took a new and active direction in May 2016, when 4 billion Libyan dinars were printed in Russia for the eastern-based government, led by Prime Minister Abdullah al-Thani. It is likely that Russia will print more dinars for the eastern government in light of the ongoing cash crisis in the country. On the military front, Hifter has visited Moscow twice in the past seven months, meeting with the Russian foreign and defense ministers as well as Security Council Secretary Nikolai Patrushev to seek support for LNA forces.

    Russia has two distinctly different but possible options for engagement on the crisis in Libya. The first option is a soft approach, which involves diplomatic and political engagement with all the key Libyan stakeholders. This is an option because efforts so far by the United Nations, European countries and the United States have failed to produce a workable solution for the Libyan crisis. Russia has tried to reach out to all the Libyan parties, but without much progress until now.

    There have been local reports of a Russian delegation visiting the city of Misrata at the time Hifter was hosted onboard the Admiral Kuznetsov. For some reason, however, the visit was not publicized and did not receive much attention from the media. Nonetheless, this approach could prove difficult for Moscow given the links and cooperation between some of Libya’s key stakeholders, such as the GNA, forces from Misrata and Western countries, including Italy, the United Kingdom and the United States. For such an approach to succeed, Russia would need to engage with the Western states actively involved and with influence and leverage over some of Libya’s key players. Such cooperation, however, is hard to imagine given the current standoff between Russia and the West in Syria and Ukraine and Western sanctions against Russia.

    The second option is an aggressive approach whereby Russia could choose to back Hifter and authorities in eastern Libya and help tip the balance of power in favor of the LNA to capture Tripoli and control most of Libya’s territory and energy sources. The Admiral Kuznetsov’s visit to the Libyan coast and hosting of Hifter onboard — which did not go unnoticed by Libyans or international media outlets — is a hint that Moscow is edging toward this option. This would mean greater involvement by Russia and require a significant amount of resources, which Moscow might not have given its heavy involvement in Syria and its suffering economy.

    Moscow’s calculations might be different, however, in that its adventure in Libya could pay off by securing oil and gas, weapons and construction contracts if it came to be ruled by an ally. Furthermore, given Russia’s ambitions for influence and expansion in the Middle East, Libya could become a geopolitical bargaining chip for Moscow against Europe. In such a scenario, Russia would start by providing technical assistance and expertise as well as training for LNA personnel and the eventual provision of new weapons once the UN weapons embargo on Libya is no longer effective or provide LNA with weapons through third parties. According to LNA spokesperson Ahmed al-Mesmari, “Libya signed [arms] contracts with Russia worth 4.2 billion US dollars in 2009.” Mesmari added, “These contracts will be activated once the UN arms embargo is no longer effective.” 

    Russia will likely become heavily involved in Libya in 2017 with extremely negative repercussions given the animosity between Russia and the West. Although Moscow’s ultimate moves remain vague, its intentions toward the West are obvious. Even if Russia cannot directly influence or control the direction of events in Libya, it can at least ensure prolonged instability with catastrophic consequences for Libya and the region. 

    http://www.al-monitor.com/pulse/originals/2017/01/russia-game-libya-hifter-syria-gna.html

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    Loz :]

    Psalm 18:2
    The Lord is my rock, and my fortress, and my deliverer; my God, my strength, in whom I will trust; my buckler, and the horn of my salvation, and my high tower.


    #127327

    Mike Mc
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    Russia is starting to spread itself very thin. Russia has about 9 million Muslins… The global destruction is soon coming. Libya is referred to numerous times in the Scriptures, both directly and indirectly. But in Ezekiel 38-39, well, we learned that Libya is one of the nations that joins the Russian and Iranian alliance against Israel in “the last days”… The ISIS bases we just Bombed, were more than likely being set up for just such a time in the near future and now you have Russia stepping in to block all this just like they have done in Syria. You can now see Russia surrounding Israel, and being drawn in by the hook.

    I saw and article where Russia was going to be printing lots money for the Librarians. Libya is one of the countries that will be under the control and direction of the Antichrist as I see it…

    Daniel 11:43  But he shall have power over the treasures of gold and of silver, and over all the precious things of Egypt: and the Libyans and the Ethiopians shall be at his steps. 

    Gracethrufaith has a great article on this and Islam will still be a major player, because no Muslims will not be Raptured out with the church body…The Christian faith are not the only ones who are looking for the arrival, or return, of a Messiah, so are the Muslims. Al-Mahdi, or Mahdi, or The Twelfth Imam, who is the prophesied messiah of the Muslim religion, and is expected to arrive. Their are 1.6 Billion Muslims around the world according to Pew Poll. Indonesia has the most at 204,847,000, India is next at 172,000,000 and Pakistan has 178,000,000. 1/3 of the worlds population is Muslims. Buddhism is estimated at 488 million.. And Hinduism has over 1.08 billion adherents worldwide (15% of world’s population) with about 95% living in India…
    I would look for many of these same people to change religions once they find out they have been deceived…

    My purpose in writing this is not in any way to confirm or endorse the views of some self-proclaimed experts on Islam who’ve burst on the scene recently with all sorts of new interpretations of Christian prophecy. It’s to remind us all to keep our eyes open. Things are happening fast and will continue to challenge our traditional perspective. Daniel was told that as the End of the Age approaches knowledge will increase (Daniel 12:4). That means we’ll be given a clearer understanding of how events will unfold than those who came before us. This will happen through careful observation, actually seeing the pieces of the puzzle fall into place and comparing them to Scripture.

    The anti-Christ will make his first Biblical appearance in Rev. 6:2, disguised as the man on the white horse. According to Daniel 8:25 he’ll seem to be a great peacemaker, but his intent will be to conquer the world. His true identity won’t be revealed until Revelation 13:1-2 where it becomes clear that he’s been empowered by Satan.
    https://gracethrufaith.com/end-times-prophecy/islam-and-the-end-times/
    Little do these false religions know what they are all in for.. Looks like this year is going to be very interesting indeed.

    http://www.lamblion.us/2011/02/muslim-antichrist-theory-joel.html

    Great article Loz, Thank you Brother… :rose:

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    #127336
    Loz
    Loz
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    Thank you also Mike for your additional insight.

    Lox :]

    Psalm 18:2
    The Lord is my rock, and my fortress, and my deliverer; my God, my strength, in whom I will trust; my buckler, and the horn of my salvation, and my high tower.


    #127370

    Watchman35
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    Hi Loz. When I first saw the title of this thread with the words Russia and Libya, my mind went immediately to Ezekiel 38. One more piece of the puzzle appears to be falling into place.

    Ezekiel 38:3-6 3 And say, Thus saith the Lord God; Behold, I am against thee, O Gog, the chief prince of Meshech and Tubal: 4 And I will turn thee back, and put hooks into thy jaws, and I will bring thee forth, and all thine army, horses and horsemen, all of them clothed with all sorts of armour, even a great company with bucklers and shields, all of them handling swords:5 Persia, Ethiopia, and LIBYA :Hi: with them; all of them with shield and helmet:
    6 Gomer, and all his bands; the house of Togarmah of the north quarters, and all his bands: and many people with thee.”

    John 14:1-3 “Let not your heart be troubled; you believe in God, believe also in Me. In My Father’s house are many mansions; if it were not so, I would have told you. I go to prepare a place for you. And if I go and prepare a place for you, I will come again and receive you to Myself; that where I am, there you may be also."

    #128509

    Mike Mc
    Participant

    The Story’s of each day hide the real story going on behind the Scenes.

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    Tom

    Keymaster

    I loved to diagram sentences and learn their structure when I was in school. For that reason, I am usually aware of the structure of sentences when I read. IN the case of Ez. 38:3-6, I noticed that all four verses are written as one long sentence. That means that the translator of this King James English edition from the oldest Hebrew manuscripts at the time understood the context of this portion of scripture was all inclusive and therefore was a long description of the same event. When it was translated into English, the writer had to use colons and semi-colons to link the long sentence together and keep it as an all inclusive statement of facts.

    For that reason, I believe that Gomer and Togarmah will have at least some fighters and equipment used in this battle on the mountains of Israel. For sure, the politics in Turkey may have to change or the NATO linkage will have to be ignored. Whatever the case, it seems to me that Turkey will definitely be involved in this invasion of Israel.

    Also, note that all the countries that are described as joining Gog/MaGog are counties that want a Muslim Caliphate in the Levant of which the land of Israel is in. This desire of a caliphate is not found by the rulers of Jordan or Egypt or Saudi Arabia and that is a very interesting little fact.

    I ran across and older post and this Keen Observation above about Russia from last year…. I found lots of Gleanings in that post, and here we are with Very Recent articles talking about Russia helping Libya… In Terry’s recent video he was saying Russians are now Covertly training the Libyan’s and sending them to Syria to fight in the caliphate, in the Levant.

    jfelts8031
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    We are waiting on more than Turkey, although a key player.

    Where are the armies or players from Libya and Northern Sudan in this alliance of nations? It’s coming…just not at the pace we think it is yet.

    Another Keen Observation….

    Is Libya Putin’s Next Target?

    On January 11, Hiftar toured the Russian aircraft carrier Admiral Kuznetsov, which was anchored off the Libyan coast near Benghazi. During his visit, he held a video conference with Russian Defense Secretary Sergei Shoigu. Russia has been providing military advice and training, as well as “military experts” to the Libyan National Army,

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/joseph-v-micallef/is-libya-putins-next-targ_b_14705620.html

    There is a Power struggle in Libya according to this article…

    It is unclear if an Egyptian-brokered roadmap can help heal divisions between Seraj and Khalifa Haftar, a powerful eastern-based military commander.

    http://www.reuters.com/article/us-libya-security-nato-idUSKBN15V23B

    Haftar forces claim victory in Libya’s Benghazi | Arab News

    http://www.arabnews.com/node/1012056

    BENGHAZI, Libya: The armed forces led by Marshal Khalifa Haftar announced a “great victory” against jihadist fighters in Libya’s second city of Benghazi

    One More Prophetic Piece Has Been Added To The Gog & Magog War Landscape As Terry said Russia is now training and Transporting Libyans into Syria and is incorporating them into the battle front…
    Libya is NOW a Player in Bible Prophecy…

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    Hi Loz. When I first saw the title of this thread with the words Russia and Libya, my mind went immediately to Ezekiel 38. One more piece of the puzzle appears to be falling into place.

    Ezekiel 38:3-6 3 And say, Thus saith the Lord God; Behold, I am against thee, O Gog, the chief prince of Meshech and Tubal: 4 And I will turn thee back, and put hooks into thy jaws, and I will bring thee forth, and all thine army, horses and horsemen, all of them clothed with all sorts of armour, even a great company with bucklers and shields, all of them handling swords:5 Persia, Ethiopia, and LIBYA :Hi: with them; all of them with shield and helmet:
    6 Gomer, and all his bands; the house of Togarmah of the north quarters, and all his bands: and many people with thee.”

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