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    Heather R
    Heather R
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    Hi all,

    I thought these were great and wanted to share. Tommy Ice is one of my favorites.

    End times deception in the church —

    Zionism

    Romans1:16 For I am not ashamed of the gospel of Christ: for it is the power of God unto salvation to every one that believeth; to the Jew first, and also to the Greek. 17 For therein is the righteousness of God revealed from faith to faith: as it is written, The just shall live by faith.
    #130045
    TakeMeHome
    TakeMeHome
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    Oh the timing, thanks for posting this today! I’m primed for it.

    Last night I listened to a 10 year old Bible study on Apostacy by Ken Johnson out of Calvary Chapel in Lenexa, KS.
    George Bush was president. He was talking about how apostacy starts to creep in like with tolerance of other religions, throwing out creation for evolution etc.etc. Let me say 10 years later it appears we’re in full blown apostacy in our country, and churches.

    #130046
    Loz
    Loz
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    Thanks for the links Heather.

    I watched a couple of Ron Rhodes talks on the same Youtube channel from the 2015 conference on The Antichrist and the Rapture, he is very funny and explains his positions very well.

    Loz :]

    Psalm 18:2
    The Lord is my rock, and my fortress, and my deliverer; my God, my strength, in whom I will trust; my buckler, and the horn of my salvation, and my high tower.


    #130048
    Savedat33
    Savedat33
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    Thank You, I was wondering what to do today, problem solved.

    #130492

    Mike Mc
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    End times deception in the church

    I was thinking about what you posted, and how the False Prophet will play his roll… Does Pope Francis wish to be Emperor of a revived Roman Empire..

    Does Pope Francis Wish To Be the Emperor of Rome? :: By Geri Ungurean

    I was looking around for a Red Dragon symbol and what I found was this Pope…

    Pope Gregory XIII (Latin: Gregorius XIII; 7 January 1502 – 10 April 1585), born Ugo Boncompagni, was Pope of the Catholic Church from 13 May 1572 to his death in 1585. He is best known for commissioning and being the namesake for the Gregorian calendar, which remains the internationally accepted civil calendar to this day.

    His Coat of Arms…
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pope_Gregory_XIII#/media/File:C_o_a_Gregorio_XIII.svg

    Pope Gregory XIII is best known for his commissioning of the calendar after being initially authored by the Calabrian doctor/astronomer Aloysius Lilius[3][4] and with the aid of Jesuit priest/astronomer Christopher Clavius who made the final modifications

    The Politiques were horrified but many Catholics inside and outside France initially regarded the massacres as deliverance from an imminent Huguenot coup d’etat. The severed head of Coligny was apparently dispatched to Pope Gregory XIII, though it got no further than Lyon, and the pope sent the king a Golden Rose.[41] The pope ordered a Te Deum to be sung as a special thanksgiving (a practice continued for many years after) and had a medal struck with the motto Ugonottorum strages 1572 (Latin for “overthrow” or “slaughter,” “of the Huguenots”) showing an angel bearing a cross and sword before which are the felled Protestants
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/St._Bartholomew%27s_Day_massacre#/media/File:Gregory_XIII_medal.jpg

    “The massacre was interpreted as an act of divine retribution; Coligny was considered a threat to Christendom and thus Pope Gregory XIII designated 11 September 1572 as a joint commemoration of the Battle of Lepanto and the massacre of the Huguenots…

    After the St. Bartholomew’s Day Massacres of Huguenots in France in 1572, Pope Gregory celebrated a Te Deum mass. However, some hold that he was ignorant of the nature of the plot at the time, having been told the Huguenots had tried to take over the government but failed. [8] Three frescoes in the Sala Regia Palace of the Vatican depicting the events were painted by Giorgio Vasari, and a commemorative medal was issued with Gregory’s portrait and on the obverse a chastising angel, sword in hand and the legend UGONOTTORUM STRAGES (“Massacre of the Huguenots)

    So, I ask again…….Does Pope wish to be Emperor of a revived Roman Empire?

    The American philosopher Ralph Waldo Emerson described St. Peter’s as “an ornament of the earth … the sublime of the beautiful..
    It is the most prominent building in the Vatican City.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/St._Peter%27s_Basilica#/media/File:St_Peter%27s_Square,_Vatican_City_-_April_2007.jpg

    Giacomo Boncompagni was born in Bologna, the son of Ugo Boncompagni and his mistress from Carpi, Maddalena Fulchini. His father was in that city to participate in the Council of Trent during the period in which had been moved there. He was legitimated on 5 July 1548 and entrusted to the Jesuits for education

    Pope Gregory XIII (Latin: Gregorius XIII; 7 January 1502 – 10 April 1585), born Ugo Boncompagni

    Giacomo Boncompagn, During the second Desmond rebellion in Ireland, led by James FitzMaurice FitzGerald, against the Protestant regime of Elizabeth I, Giacomo was proposed as King of Ireland if the Catholic faith were restored to dominance there.

    So, I ask again…….Does Pope wish to be Emperor of a revived Roman Empire?
    ~

    2. (Rev 13:12-15) The second beast’s “job description.”

    And he exercises all the authority of the first beast in his presence, and causes the earth and those who dwell in it to worship the first beast, whose deadly wound was healed. He performs great signs, so that he even makes fire come down from heaven on the earth in the sight of men. And he deceives those who dwell on the earth by those signs which he was granted to do in the sight of the beast, telling those who dwell on the earth to make an image to the beast who was wounded by the sword and lived. He was granted power to give breath to the image of the beast, that the image of the beast should both speak and cause as many as would not worship the image of the beast to be killed.

    a. He exercises all the authority of the first beast: The beast rising from the earth is essentially a Satanic prophet, who leads the world to worship the beast and the dragon.

    i. It may seem fantastic to some that the world would be led into worship of a man and of the devil. But by nature, men have an undeniable religious impulse, and they also have an undeniable rebellion against God. What men want most is not the elimination of religion, but their own religion. They say they want the kingdom, but they don’t want God in it.

    b. He performs great signs: The beast rising from the sea has the “signs and wonders” to back up his false teaching. A specific miracle of the false prophet is described: he makes fire come down from heaven on the earth in the sight of men. It is important that John highlights this miracle. In the eyes of the deceived world, it answers the miracle of the two witnesses, who minister during this period and are persecuted by the Antichrist and his false prophet (Revelation 11:5). To the deceived world, this also puts this false prophet in the class of Elijah (1 Kings 18). We can imagine the false prophet as saying, “Let the true God answer with fire” and then performing his deceptive wonder.

    i. “There is a supernatural power which is against God and truth, as well as one for God and truth. A miracle, simply as a work of wonder, is not necessarily of God. There has always been a devilish supernaturalism in the world, running alongside of the supernaturalism of divine grace and salvation.” (Seiss)

    ii. In the days of the Exodus, Aaron performed miracles, and up to a point was matched miracle-for-miracle by the magicians of Egypt (Exodus 7-9).

    iii. In Deuteronomy 13:1-5, God assumes there will be supernatural works on behalf of false prophets and idols, and He warns His people to judge a worker of miracles by their message, not only by their works.

    iv. Jesus said that some who worked miracles – even in His name – were false followers and would perish in hell (Matthew 7:22-23).

    v. Jesus said that in the end times, false prophets would emerge and show great signs and wonders to deceive (Matthew 24:24).

    vi. Paul said that the Antichrist will come with all power, signs, and lying wonders (2 Thessalonians 2:9).

    vii. Knowing all this, the emphasis on signs and wonders among some Christians is frightening. Some Christians say or think, “You can really know where God is and where His power is by signs and wonders.” Thinking this way is to leave yourself wide open to deception. Years ago there was a large, multi-denominational conference of people who think this way, and their slogan – on a huge banner over the conference platform – read “Unity Under Signs and Wonders.” That’s a unity that Satan, the Antichrist, and the false prophet could all join in. Signs and wonders will be present among Christians, but the real marks of God’s work are love and truth.

    c. He was granted power to give breath to the image of the beast, that the image of the beast should both speak and cause as many as would not worship the image of the beast to be killed: The beast rising from the earth will use a deceptive, animated image as the focus point of the worship of the beast.

    i. It may seem strange to us to have the whole world give this kind of worship to the image of a man, but the personality cults of totalitarian governments in the twentieth century are a good example of this kind of worship. All we have to do is remember totalitarian states like the Soviet Union or Communist China, and their omnipresent pictures of Stalin or Mao and we see a pattern that will be ultimately fulfilled by the Antichrist.

    c. The dragon gave him his power, his throne, and great authority: This world leader is really empowered and supported by Satan. Through this man, Satan will express his own desire and authority. In this, the beast takes the offer that Jesus refused (Matthew 4:8-10).

    i. The beast is not an ordinary man. He is called the beast that ascends out of the bottomless pit (Revelation 11:7, 17:8), and ordinary men do not come from there. “One who hails from that place must either be a dead man brought up again from the dead, or some evil spirit which takes possession of a living man … In either case, the Beast, as a person, is an extraordinary and supernatural being.” (Seiss)

    https://www.blueletterbible.org/Comm/guzik_david/StudyGuide_Rev/Rev_13.cfm

    After The Rapture there will surely Be Supernatural times, Signs and Wonders, and they won’t have to Guess what Time it is any longer..
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    #130500

    2ndcoming
    Participant

    End time deception should also include those who teach preterism,amillennialism,replacement theology,post tribulation rapture and dominion theology. I have seen them clawing on many forums and enchanting their idea which is fruitless in front of our Lord. I also heard that Hank Hanegraaff has just converted to Greek Orthodoxy.

    There is a danger in their teaching because they believe work based salvation, and Jesus’ blood is not good enough. This is why they see being left behind is such a honor to work out their salvation.

    #130504

    Barry
    Participant

    End time deception should also include those who teach preterism,amillennialism,replacement theology,post tribulation rapture and dominion theology. I have seen them clawing on many forums and enchanting their idea which is fruitless in front of our Lord. I also heard that Hank Hanegraaff has just converted to Greek Orthodoxy.
    There is a danger in their teaching because they believe work based salvation, and Jesus’ blood is not good enough. This is why they see being left behind is such a honor to work out their salvation.

    If you listen to some of the post-tribulation or no rapture believers, they sound offended at the very notion of a rapture. As though we’re trying to cheat them out of the chance to use their survival skills. I watched a video on youtube one night from a guy who broke down in tears and claimed that rapture believers were trying to cheat him and others out of their martyr’s crown.

    Even so, come, Lord Jesus.

    John 6:67 Then said Jesus unto the twelve, Will ye also go away? 68 Then Simon Peter answered him, Lord, to whom shall we go? thou hast the words of eternal life. 69 And we believe and are sure that thou art that Christ, the Son of the living God.

    #130509

    Mike Mc
    Participant

    If you listen to some of the post-tribulation or no rapture believers, they sound offended at the very notion of a rapture. As though we’re trying to cheat them out of the chance to use their survival skills. I watched a video on youtube one night from a guy who broke down in tears and claimed that rapture believers were trying to cheat him and others out of their martyr’s crown.Even so, come, Lord Jesus.

    I guess he hasn’t been watching TV in the last 3 or 4 years, in Syria and Egypt and other Islamic states… More Especially Syria and ISIS, Crucifying and Beheading Christians Believers… You hit on something that I ran into just the other day with some family… and he said something to almost that same way… they sound offended at the very notion of a rapture, As though we’re trying to cheat them out of the chance to use their survival skills and their martyr’s crown…
    I have tried for more than 25 years explain this to no avail. You will have a hard time trying to change a person who’s not willing to even look at the Pre Trib Rapture View and so Many Great Teachers..

    As Thomas Ice said in this Video many in the church today will be left behind, Because of their belief in works based salvation… This is a HUGH number, if you put a Pencil to it you would be stunned…

    This is why they see being left behind is such a honor to work out their salvation.

    I agree 2nd Coming it’s so Ignorant and very sad to me, of them to want to be left behind. Hard Hearted and Pride…

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