- January 20, 2017 at 8:59 am #127329
I think the error comes in when we say Jesus fulfilled the feasts. It’s kind of like this –
The feasts point to Jesus, who is the embodiment of God’s plan of redemption for mankind. I will post chapters 1-3 tonight, because I hope I have explained it all enough to make it clear. The feasts were not “fulfilled”, as we would understand it, because they aren’t fulfilled by work. They are fulfilled IN a person. They are God’s 7-step plan to redeem mankind and restore all things to their original state. It’s really not accurate to say He fulfilled them. It’s more like the feasts ARE Jesus.
I know I’ve talked about them having been fulfilled, because I guess those terms are ones we all understand. But it’s different from that and more than that. This is why saying there will be future “fulfillments” isn’t really all that accurate. Future celebrations, sure. But future fulfillments, no. Because Christ came one time to fulfill all legal steps of the redemptive and restorative process, even if that restoration hasn’t happened yet. There is nothing left to do. I haven’t gotten past writing about the first step He took to redeem and restore mankind, which was to partake of the same flesh and blood as mankind. The Word became flesh and dwelt among us… Tabernacles. Will Tabernacles be celebrated in the Millennium? Yep – Ezekiel 45 & Zechariah 14 tell us as much. But the Word only became flesh once.Romans1:16 For I am not ashamed of the gospel of Christ: for it is the power of God unto salvation to every one that believeth; to the Jew first, and also to the Greek. 17 For therein is the righteousness of God revealed from faith to faith: as it is written, The just shall live by faith.
January 20, 2017 at 9:44 am #127330
That makes complete sense. You can’t have a “half signed” legal contract. You can fulfill the provisions of a contract at a later date but in order to make a contract legally binding there has to be legal standing first.
It also quite literally explains Colossians 2:16-17.
“16 Let no man therefore judge you in meat, or in drink, or in respect of an holyday, or of the new moon, or of the sabbath days:
17 Which are a shadow of things to come; but the body is of Christ.”
A body can only cast a shadow on earth. Jesus was only technically in human form (read: non-glorified form) once. Also, this reinforces imminence.
Outstanding!January 20, 2017 at 9:46 am #127331
Yep. I reference Colossians 2 to start my explanation.Romans1:16 For I am not ashamed of the gospel of Christ: for it is the power of God unto salvation to every one that believeth; to the Jew first, and also to the Greek. 17 For therein is the righteousness of God revealed from faith to faith: as it is written, The just shall live by faith.
January 20, 2017 at 9:51 am #127332
I had posted a link to where my snippets will be located, then deleted it. I kind of rethought the whole “early sharing” thing, because with the nature of the subject matter
😉 Well I had to chuckle at this, Cuz, Cuz, I did read your book, you should have left it up… it gave me something to read and study on. I think you layed out a great case for Imminent. I know some will be Dogmatic about it, But I’ve been around the church block long enough to know better, why, well, things change if you keep studing like the Bereans did, The Bible is a Live and it Speaks to us… lol…!
The pretribulation rapture is the only view that allows for the rapture to be imminent in its timing. All the other views require a number of prophetic occurrences to take place before the rapture can be declared imminent. To be looking for the imminent return of Christ, you have to believe in a pre-Trib Rapture.
Heather R wrote:
Actually, I’ll be telling them a few things they probably don’t want to hear.
Which is mind boggling because with all the feasts already fulfilled then we really don’t need to be looking towards a certain feast and the Lord could come at any minute for us!
I can tell ya, and I’m not ashamed of it, I was taught for many years that the fall feats are yet fulfilled, and I never saw it any other way. until I read your Book… In the Shadow of things to come.
It’s kind a like Matthew 24 …
I have quoted John Walvoord, I can’t tell you how many times.. As a Prophecy Teacher he was far ahead of his time.
Because we have no way to refute the fact that we will not know the timing of our Lord’s return, the tribulation is a barrier to the rapture. No wonder the late John Walvoord called Imminency “the heart of Pretribulationism.”
I can say, I have never celebrated any feast days, at the church, other than the Lords Supper.. Why…? Well like your book said, Because Jesus fulfilled the Law on the Cross. The Feast were given to Israel to Keep, not the church.
You know, I can also say the church as a whole, was taught wrong on many things the last 40 years that I personally know of, and the Pre~Tribulational Rapture is one of the main ones… One of the very first questions I had as a new Christian, was Why would God leave the church, “His Son’s Bride” here to be Beaten , by God’s Wrath during the beginning of the Trib, and then Take her for His Bride. This one thing never set well with me from the beginning, was we were going to have to Endure God’s Wrath. This was the very thing that made me start studying Bible Prophecy.
I used to tell my family ( about 80 of them) Jesus is coming back really soon maybe even in our life time before we die, then the scoffing started, and then someone would say, the Bible says “no man knows the day or hour”
… to name a couple
I use to get upset, then I stop talking about it, no one wanted to here it. People stopped thinking for themselves, and studying to see what the Bible really said. Their interpretation of the Bible became what the institutional church did was spoon~fed them, mostly milk. 30 minutes in church, a good sermon about sin, the alter call, a song or two, and your good to go for another week… Sound familiar…
(I love the fact the Lord used a former blind man to see the obvious and showcase how completely “blind” the religious leaders were)
And so it is , as it was in that time. Many were not ready, even the Pharisees (church leaders) back then.
~January 20, 2017 at 10:02 am #127333
I didn’t take that down. I only took down a post that referenced future work. No worries, Mike.
Regarding Colossians 2, the shadow comes first. The shadow indicates something is coming. That’s what the feasts did for Jesus. They represented His coming. And when He came, He was just as they (fore)shadowed Him to be…
Man – Tabernacles
Scapegoat – Day of Atonement
Voice of God – Trumpets
Passover Lamb – Passover
Sinless/Covering for Sin – Unleavened Bread
Firstfruits of the dead – Firstfruits
Mediator of the New Covenant which changed locations – Pentecost
It wasn’t in the work He did. It was in the very essence of who He was. And yes, He was those things on their respective days. I’ll write it all out ASAP. There’s just so much to include!Romans1:16 For I am not ashamed of the gospel of Christ: for it is the power of God unto salvation to every one that believeth; to the Jew first, and also to the Greek. 17 For therein is the righteousness of God revealed from faith to faith: as it is written, The just shall live by faith.
March 18, 2017 at 4:53 am #129544
Bumping this for a few of our new faces!
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