Reincarnation, a possibility? Or no possibility?

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    Terry
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    First of all, I want to say that I am aware what Hebrews 9:27 says: “And as it is appointed unto men once to die, and after this the judgment”. I ask these questions in the title of this post because having seen one or more Youtube videos on past life recollection makes me wonder, if reincarnation could be possible, even though God says it is appointed unto men once to die, and after this the judgment, I think perhaps that this is what God means for all people, to die once, and after this the judgment, but, for all we know, God could allow certain people to be reincarnated again, to live again as someone else, for whatever His reason/reasons.
    Perhaps these certain people weren’t going to be saved, but God saw that these people had a beautiful soul, and was moved by that, and decided to give them another chance at becoming saved, to live again as someone else.

    In these Youtube videos I watched, adults, as well as little kids can recall vividly another life. I think one of the persons, a kid, could recall vividly of having been a pilot during the war. And another Youtube video I watched, a woman who claimed to have once been Anne Frank, who, with her parents, were going to have a tour of Anne Frank’s home, knew exactly where Anne Frank lived, and knew there were certain pictures up on a wall in Anne Frank’s home, when she finally actually went to her home there were no pictures on that wall, but someone knew that those pictures once were on that wall. And this woman I think was only a kid at the time, and couldn’t have even known where Anne Frank lived. These are only two Youtube videos I’m mentioning, but there are many others. You should check them out!

    Also, I have had, since about the age of 18, a past life recollection of another life, a person of who’s name I know, who I know of, who you know of, who is a female who once existed, I even wrote a book about this past life recollection, but I never published it.
    I figured, being that Ritanow is closing soon, and I am not going to sign up for facebook, and you won’t be seeing me anymore, at least until Pentecost, when this site shuts down, I thought I’d mention this.

    But let’s focus on the main questions of this post: Reincarnation, a possibility? Or no possibility?

    #131710
    Savedat33
    Savedat33
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    It’s seems you have answered your own question, my friend, with Hebrews 9:27.

    Holding that God’s Word is inerrant, then the writer of Hebrews shows us we are given one life and one life for each soul. Otherwise, it could be said that God plays favorites but:

    For the LORD your God is God of gods and Lord of lords, the great God, mighty and awesome, who shows no partiality and accepts no bribes. Deut. 10:17

    Also, if someone “reincarnated” then they would get another shot at redemption and that would be completely unfair to the billions of other souls who didn’t get a second chance.

    God knows who is and who is not His. Reincarnating someone, even if God knew they were unsavable only to have them suffer time and again in life paints God as cruel and petty. Hell is punishment enough for the wicked, no matter how wicked they are.

    Also, remember Lazarus and the rich man:

    And besides all this, between us and you a great chasm has been fixed, in order that those who would pass from here to you may not be able, and none may cross from there to us.’ 27 And he said, ‘Then I beg you, father, to send him to my father’s house— 28 for I have five brothers—so that he may warn them, lest they also come into this place of torment.’ 29 But Abraham said, ‘They have Moses and the Prophets; let them hear them.’ 30 And he said, ‘No, father Abraham, but if someone goes to them from the dead, they will repent.’ 31 He said to him, ‘If they do not hear Moses and the Prophets, neither will they be convinced if someone should rise from the dead.’” Luke 16:26-31

    If reincarnation was a thing then it would be in the Bible and it isn’t.

    However, I’ve heard of God punishing spirits over and over (see Gog in Ezekiel and Revelation) and typologies of certain wicked people but never reincarnation.

    I’m not saying people don’t have vivid memories of people and places they have never seen, however the mind is a wonderous and mystifying place and it’s prone to all sorts of fancies – including ‘false memories’. We all have them and it’s simply because of all the images, information and media we have ingested in our lifetimes, whether consciously or subconsciously. And while they seem very real, they are merely our minds playing tricks.

    https://www.psychologytoday.com/basics/false-memories

    :rose:

    *fair use for informational and educational purposes only*

    #131712
    Goldenknight
    Goldenknight
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    There is no reincarnation – God says so – it’s appointed once to die – so no possibility.

    Jeremiah 29:11

    #131714

    Barry
    Participant

    I know this is not the point of the thread, or the responses, but I don’t believe Hebrews 9:27 is a statement of doctrine. Scriptural evidence clearly shows it is not. Rather, it’s an axiomatic statement on the condition of mankind.

    Of course we’ll all die….unless we get raptured, which I suspect many of us will, and soon :). As Paul said, some of us will not sleep. Further, the widow of Nain’s son, I think he died physically a 2nd time. Lazarus – Mary & Martha’s brother, not the one from Luke 16 – died, arose, and although we do not know his end, I believe he died again. Likewise, Enoch did not die, and I do not believe he is one of the 2 witnesses, so I do not believe he will ever see death.

    As to the OP, no, there’s no scriptural basis whatsoever for reincarnation. It’s a doctrine of Satan, and if people have remembrances or visions of such, I suspect those are lies planted by the father of lies. The notion that there’s another go-round at this life is a direct rebuttal of Christ. Don’t be blown about by every wind of doctrine.

    John 6:67 Then said Jesus unto the twelve, Will ye also go away? 68 Then Simon Peter answered him, Lord, to whom shall we go? thou hast the words of eternal life. 69 And we believe and are sure that thou art that Christ, the Son of the living God.

    #131715

    Watchman35
    Participant

    No possibility. Look at His Word. Look at the false religions that teach this. No possibility.

    John 14:1-3 “Let not your heart be troubled; you believe in God, believe also in Me. In My Father’s house are many mansions; if it were not so, I would have told you. I go to prepare a place for you. And if I go and prepare a place for you, I will come again and receive you to Myself; that where I am, there you may be also."

    #131717
    Heather R
    Heather R
    Participant

    Perhaps these certain people weren’t going to be saved, but God saw that these people had a beautiful soul, and was moved by that, and decided to give them another chance at becoming saved, to live again as someone else.

    Absolutely not. Each of us is made special and in the image of God. The Bible tells us to be absent from the body is to be present with the Lord. Barry is correct when he says that Hebrews 9:27 isn’t a statement of doctrine. Since the fall of mankind, we each have one life only that will end in death unless we accept Jesus as our Savior. Jesus had and has the power to give life, which is why He could and will raise people from the dead. If we could reincarnate, that’d be a lot of physical parts to try to reunite with spirits… and what if I was a Christian in one life and not the next? If I were you, I’d stop watching those videos on YT or wherever. Don’t buy into the lies. Scripture will always trump experiences which are subject to private interpretation. The biggest problems occur when people move from Scripture toward how they “feel”. :negative:

    Romans1:16 For I am not ashamed of the gospel of Christ: for it is the power of God unto salvation to every one that believeth; to the Jew first, and also to the Greek. 17 For therein is the righteousness of God revealed from faith to faith: as it is written, The just shall live by faith.
    #131719
    MyWhiteStone
    MyWhiteStone
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    Evil entities or spirits testified to in Ephesians 6 for example, (other evidences of evil spirits are almost limitless in Scripture, e.g., Jesus casting them out), have seemingly amazing stealthy abilities to influence and induce / plant ideas into what people think and feel. Such entities also possess longevity, spanning back even into antiquity, and therefore likely able to have once become familiar with certain historic facts about a historic person to corroborate at later times, giving credibility to the suggestion about the subject’s supposed “past life.” I also suspect evil entities can also read, and could induce someone to research what the lying entity suspects the subject will undoubtedly find in their suggested fact-checking.

    One Scripture passage does come to mind to me: Romans 1:18-22 — For the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men, who suppress the truth in unrighteousness, because what may be known of God is manifest in them, for God has shown it to them. For since the creation of the world His invisible attributes are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even His eternal power and Godhead, so that they are without excuse, because, although they knew God, they did not glorify Him as God, nor were thankful, but became futile in their thoughts, and their foolish hearts were darkened. Professing to be wise, they became fools

    And another thought: you know Revelation 20 says at the Great White Throne Judgment that books were opened, and another book was opened which is the Book of Life. If any man’s name was not found in the Book of Life he was cast into the Lake of Fire. The point: it does not say if none of a man’s names were found…

    Just my thoughts, scratched off my surface… Not intentionally rigorous, this suggestion being limited to our forum today. Folks are free to believe what they want to believe. No? But one’s personal risks are enormous for eternity.

    I know that my Redeemer lives, and that in the end He will stand upon the earth. And after my skin has been destroyed, yet in my flesh I will see God; I myself will see Him with my own eyes -- I, and not another. How my heart yearns within me! Job19:25-27



    #131720
    Heather R
    Heather R
    Participant

    There’s also:

    I Corinthians 15:16 For if the dead rise not, then is not Christ raised: 17 And if Christ be not raised, your faith is vain; ye are yet in your sins. 18 Then they also which are fallen asleep in Christ are perished. 19 If in this life only we have hope in Christ, we are of all men most miserable.

    This one life is all we get here one earth.

    Fortunately, Christ did raise, so we can too. And we don’t have to be miserable and without hope.

    I Corinthians 15:20 But now is Christ risen from the dead, and become the firstfruits of them that slept. 21 For since by man came death, by man came also the resurrection of the dead. 22 For as in Adam all die, even so in Christ shall all be made alive.

    Romans1:16 For I am not ashamed of the gospel of Christ: for it is the power of God unto salvation to every one that believeth; to the Jew first, and also to the Greek. 17 For therein is the righteousness of God revealed from faith to faith: as it is written, The just shall live by faith.
    #131721
    David R
    David R
    Moderator

    I heartily agree with the objections raised against it and the explanations for the false memories.

    One thing I’d like to emphasize is that the Bible shows us that the body, soul and spirit created by God are unique to the individual. The body is not something incidental to the whole person. We are raised, transformed and glorified in the resurrection or the rapture. But we remain ourselves. We are not given multiple incarnations to “get it right.” That in itself implies salvation by works, and salvation only comes by grace through faith.

    My soul yearns, even faints, for the courts of the Lord;
    my heart and my flesh cry out for the living God. Psalm 84:2


    #131722
    TxThom
    TxThom
    Keymaster

    Keep in mind that there is a major difference between reincarnation and resurrection. Reincarnation refers to a spirit / soul being placed into a new body for a “if at first you don’t succeed, try, try again” experience. Resurrection means for the expired body to be brought back into a functional status again. In the Bible people are indeed restored to life, but not a different life. And if God allowed us to “try, try again” it doesn’t seem likely that He would have to come and die for us to find eternal life.

    That having been said, there is one type of reincarnation that is mentioned in the Bible. Most everyone dies with a mortal body, but will be raised with a new spiritual body not subject to corruption. It isn’t a “try, try again” thing but rather a metamorphosis from one kind to another.

    I am convinced of this, that the One who began a good action among you will bring it to completion by the Day of the Messiah Jesus. Philippians 1:6



    #131723

    sonya b1974
    Participant

    When I was younger, I used to believe in reincarnation.. I don’t anymore. 🙂

    #131770
    TakeMeHome
    TakeMeHome
    Participant

    I’m in agreement with no possibility. Zero, nada, zip.

    But do have a crazy story to share. Back in 2015, the Dalai Lama, (still in exile from Tibet last I knew) made a statement that it will be his last incarnation. As the religious leader of Tibet he said he would not reincarnate while communist China controlled Tibet.

    And so the heated debates began. China was especially agitated as they needed a Dalai Lama chosen to support their control of Tibet and keep the people happy. Buddist Religious leaders as well as Chinese leaders were coming off the chain!!

    Finally, China ORDERED the Dalai Lama to reincarnate at the appropriate time. Literally thinking they could order him from the grave!

    You can’t make this stuff up!

    Sadly, none of these people are saved. Christ is the only way to eternal life.
    As much as I might like the Dalai Lama as a gentle peaceful person, he is condemned, as per John, as are millions of his Buddhist followers.

    Sad indeed.

    #131776

    Terry
    Participant

    Very good responses everyone, :good: thank you for caring enough about my salvation by saying all that you said. You made perfect sense. I have to say, that, with what you all said, you put any belief in reincarnation I had, to rest. It’s gone, kaput!

    Evil entities or spirits are sure strong, if they can do all that! And I thought the part about “false memories” was really interesting. And Heather, thanks for quoting 1 Corinthians 15, especially verse 19, I sure needed to hear that! That’s right! This one life IS all we get here on earth.

    Evil entities or spirits must have really done a job on me, BIG TIME, because I have sure had one or more “false memories”, and, because of all of the similarities, facts I have gathered, bits of information, evidence, and there are MANY similarities, bits of information, and much evidence I have gathered, this person’s image being VERY familiar to me, like looking into the mirror of my past, and remembering one or more places that I have never been to in this life, chance happenings.

    I am so glad all of you took the time to give me this information. And I appreciate that. I just don’t know WHY this happened to me. I guess spirits saw that the condition was right, in order to deceive me. And the false memories could have come from all the images I had seen on t.v. and in my life, up to the age of 18, when I think the first phase of the awareness of a past life struck.

    I have heard of “inherited memories”, which some people say are inherited memories which our parents have had. I believe this might be true, I don’t know! Perhaps these inherited memories can extend farther back than our parents, maybe much farther. Possibly explaining the Deja Vu feeling many people have, like you’ve been somewhere before, because it looks familiar to you, but yet, in your present life you know you’ve never been there before.

    #131780
    Tom
    Tom
    Keymaster

    Satan is the king of the kingdom of darkness and goes about seeking whom he can deceive into believing a lie in order to get us to doubt God’s Word. Satan appears as an angel of light and reason and even quotes scripture (out of context of course and usually by changing or adding a word or two). He has had thousands of years to figure out how best to deceive us and knows our weak spots in our thinking and beliefs.

    And that is the reason why we need to major in our study, understanding and application of the Word of God. Darkness has to flee from light. Gods Word is our light but it only works if we use it when we are attacked. The Holy Spirit within us lets us know something isn’t quiet right and that is when we need to become active in using the revealed Word to overcome Satan’s lies even when they sound reasonable and possible.

    Trust and obey. That is what Adam and Eve did not do and they lost their paradise. Israel didn’t believe and had to spend 40 yrs in the wilderness because of it. On the other hand, Jesus quoted scripture to Satan and Satan had no answer and after three tries, he had to flee. Jesus is our standard to imitate. :heart:



    Gods plan and purpose for my life is never at risk. Phil 1:6

    #131784

    Terry
    Participant

    Hi Tom, good to hear from you! Everything you said is true. Glad you shared this. Every bit of information is helpful. Thanks. 😉

    #131786
    No Other Rock
    No Other Rock
    Moderator

    Is Reincarnation Biblical?

    Today approximately 30 million Americans (one in four) believe in reincarnation. The word “reincarnation” literally means to “come again in the flesh.” The process of reincarnation – continual rebirths in human bodies – allegedly continues until the soul has reached a state of perfection and merges back with its source (God or the “Universal Soul”).

    One’s lot in life, according to those who believe in reincarnation, is based on the law of karma. This law says that if bad things happen in one’s life, this is an outworking of bad karma. If good things happen in one’s life, this is an outworking of good karma.

    “Karma” refers to the “debt” a soul accumulates because of good or bad actions committed during one’s life (or past lives). If one accumulates good karma by performing good actions, he or she will be reincarnated in a desirable state. If one accumulates bad karma, he or she will be reincarnated in a less desirable state. In Shirley MacLaine’s book Out on a Limb we are told, “Reincarnation is like show business. You just keep doing it until you get it right.”

    Some people twist the Scriptures and say that Jesus Himself taught reincarnation or “cyclical rebirth.” In Matthew 11:14, for example, Jesus said, “And if you are willing to accept it, [John the Baptist] is the Elijah who was to come.” Likewise, in John 3:3 Jesus said, “I tell you the truth, no one can see the kingdom of God unless he is born again.”

    But these passages, rightly interpreted, do not support reincarnation. Matthew 11:14 does not really teach that John the Baptist was a reincarnation of Elijah. Luke 1:17, an important cross reference, tells us that the ministry of John the Baptist was carried out “in the spirit and power of Elijah.” Moreover, reincarnationists conveniently forget that John the Baptist, when asked if he was Elijah, flatly answered, “No!” (John 1:21).

    Regarding Jesus’ words about being “born again” in John 3:3, the context clearly shows that Jesus was referring to a spiritual rebirth or regeneration. In fact, the phrase born again carries the idea of “born from above,” and can even be translated that way. Jesus clarified His meaning by affirming that “flesh gives birth to flesh, but the Spirit gives birth to spirit” (v. 6).

    There are other Scriptures that clearly debunk the notion of reincarnation. Hebrews 9:27 tells us that “man is destined to die once, and after that to face judgment….” Each human being lives once as a mortal on earth, dies once, and then faces judgment. He does not have a second chance by reincarnating into another body. Second Corinthians 5:8 indicates that at death the Christian immediately goes into the presence of the Lord, not into another body. Luke 16:19-31 indicates that unbelievers at death go to a place of suffering, not into another body.

    We must also remember that Jesus taught that people decide their eternal destiny in a single lifetime (Matthew 25:46). This is precisely why the apostle Paul emphasized that “now is the day of salvation” (2 Corinthians 6:2).

    Further, Jesus taught the concept of resurrection, not reincarnation. In fact, He predicted His own resurrection early in His public ministry (John 2:19). And after Jesus resurrected from the dead, He appeared to some disciples and said, “Look at my hands and my feet. It is I myself! Touch me and see; a ghost does not have flesh and bones, as you see I have” (Luke 24:39). Jesus resurrected in the same body that went into the tomb. His body even retained the scars and wounds in His hands, feet, and side from the crucifixion (John 20:28).

    In addition to biblically refuting reincarnation, we must also point to some of the practical problems involved in the theory of reincarnation. For example, we must ask, Why does one get punished (via “bad karma”) for something he or she cannot remember having done in a previous life? Moreover, if the purpose of karma is to rid humanity of its selfish desires (as reincarnationists say), then why has there not been a noticeable improvement in human nature after all the millennia of reincarnations on earth?

    Finally, if reincarnation and the law of karma are so beneficial on a practical level, as reincarnationists claim, then how do they explain the immense and ever-worsening social and economic problems – including widespread poverty, starvation, disease, and horrible suffering – in India, where reincarnation has been systematically taught throughout its history?

    http://home.earthlink.net/~ronrhodes/Reincarnation.html
    Fair use for education or discussion purposes

    I Am the Lord! Besides Me there is no Savior. For there is no other name under Heaven given among men by which we must be saved. For God so loved the world that He gave His only begotten Son, that whoever believes in Him should not perish but have everlasting life. If you confess with your mouth that Jesus is Lord and believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead, you will be saved!...For in him we live, and move, and have our being!

    #131791

    Terry
    Participant

    No Other Rock, thanks for sharing this article, it was a very interesting read.

    #131793

    Terry
    Participant

    A part in the Bible I wanted to mention, that I had forgotten about, but remembered again, which is another good verse to prove that reincarnation is false, does not happen, and cannot happen, is Ecclesiastes 12:7, which says: “Then shall the dust return to the earth as it was: and the spirit shall return unto God who gave it”.

    So, if reincarnation was true, that would mean that when a person dies their spirit would not return unto God who gave it. But, being that we know the Bible is true, and that God cannot lie, when a person dies, the spirit DOES return unto God who gave it. :yes:

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