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    Donna
    Donna
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    1) The relation of the Church to governments. This is a very good point. Think about it. In 1 Timothy 2: 1-4 we are instructed to pray for the government and those in authority, and in Romans 13:1, we are told to be in subjection to the governing authorities. Bu in Revelation 13:4 we are told that Satan, the dragon—will control the government during the Tribulation. How could the Church subject herself to a satanic government or pray for it, as we are instructed to now? It could not.

    As Dr. Pentecost says, “Because of the relationship of the Church to governments in this age and because of the satanic control of government in the seventieth week, the Church must be delivered before this satanic government manifests itself.”

    2) The silence concerning the Tribulation in the Epistles. This could be an interesting study of its own. We find many examples in the Epistles that were written to give help and assistance to the church in how to endure persecution in this age. There is no teaching to the Church for dealing with the most severe persecution men will have ever known—the Tribulation. Dr. Pentecost rightly states “The silence in the Epistles which would leave the church unprepared for the Tribulation argues for her being absent from that period all together.”

    3) The waiting remnant at the Second Advent. I have read articles which say that all believers during the Tribulation will be martyred. That notion is false. Many passages like Malachi 3:16; Ezekiel 20:33-38; 37:11-28; Zachariah13:8-9; and Matthew 25:31-40 indicate that there will be a believing remnant in Israel awaiting His return. There will also be a remnant of believing Gentiles who survive the Tribulation. These groups of believers go into the Millennium in their natural bodies, but not having experienced death and resurrection. If the Church were on the earth at the time of the Second Advent (by the post-Trib theory) those people who get saved would be saved into the spiritual Body the Church and be raptured at that time. Consequently, there would not be any saved people left on earth.

    Dr. Pentecost rightly states, “These considerations make necessary the pretribulation Rapture of the church, so that God may call out and preserve a remnant during the Tribulation in and through whom the promises may be fulfilled.” (The promises in the Abrahamic, Davidic, Palestinic, and new covenants.)

    4) The sealed 144,000 from Israel. When a person is saved while the church is still here on earth, he is saved into the church, whether Jew or Gentile, as indicated in Colossians 1:26-29; 3:11; Ephesians 2:14-22; 3:1-7. But during the Tribulation, Revelation 7:14 indicates that 12,000 Jews are saved out of each tribe to a special group of Jews. They are sent as representatives to the nations as witnesses of Christ. The Church was given this instruction to take the gospel to the world, indicating the Church must be absent.

    5) The apostasy of the period. It’s often mentioned that the Church is obviously absent from most of Revelation when all the Tribulation events are described taking place on earth. The only organized church mentioned is the Jezebel system, Revelation 2:22; Revelation 17 and 18. The believing witnesses, converted during the period, are said to have kept themselves from defilement by this apostate system, Revelation 14:4.

    Dr. Pentecost states, “Since the Church is not mentioned as also having kept herself from this system it must be concluded that the Church is not there.” (The Church has been translated out before the Tribulation.)

    These are just a few of the arguments listed in a chapter in Dr. Pentecost’s book. He presents the other Rapture theories also in subsequent chapters and presents the reasons why those theories don’t work. Many other chapters deal with other eschatological issues. This book would be a valuable addition to anyone’s library. It can still be found everywhere.

    May those who come behind us find us faithful.

    Dale Eliot

    Zechariah813@yahoo.com
    http://www.raptureready.com/2017/02/21/fascinating-arguments-for-the-pre-trib-rapture-by-dale-eliot/


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    waragoodwarfare
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    Thanks Donna,

    Very interesting insight into the Tribulation period.

    Dave

    #128686
    David R
    David R
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    2) The silence concerning the Tribulation in the Epistles.

    I find that to be a great observation. The Church is NOT given instructions on what to do when that times comes. It is conspicuously absent.

    My soul yearns, even faints, for the courts of the Lord;
    my heart and my flesh cry out for the living God. Psalm 84:2


    #128687
    Sweetbriar
    Sweetbriar
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    Dr. Pentecost wrote quite a few books. Which are you quoting?

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    Tender Reed
    Tender Reed
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    None the less, Dr. Pentecost has long been viewed as a premier expositor.

    TR


    #128689
    Donna
    Donna
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    Dr. Pentecost wrote quite a few books. Which are you quoting?

    https://www.amazon.com/Things-Come-Study-Biblical-Eschatology/dp/0310308909


    #128703

    Mike Mc
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    One of Many all time Great Teachers of our times..

    the magnum opus of Pentecost’s writings is Things to Come, a definitive work of dispensational premillennial eschatology, published in 1958

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