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  • #7555

    Vicki
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    In my understanding the Bible tells us to be patient unto the coming of the Lord.
    Also, I know that the Lord is waiting mercifully for the last soul to be saved
    and is not willing that any should perish. God’s timing is perfect.
    No one knows the day nor the hour, only the season.

    Now, with all that being said, I want to share with you, my family who also
    long for Jesus to return, something from my heart that I feel I can safely
    share with you for your feedback.

    Here it is: I was in high anticipation during the Rosh Hashana season this
    past September, and even held on to a glimmer of hope for it being late.
    I still feel like it’s close, but with all the significance of that feast,
    I have this strong inclination to think it may happen only on that feast
    but we don’t know what year. I am in a bit of “slower motion” now when I think
    of the nearness cause it seems like it will have to be at least nearly another
    year. What are your thoughts?

    #7561
    BrotherJohn
    BrotherJohn
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    Hi, Vicki! :Hi:

    Personally, I think that it’s easier to just leave things up to Him and trust His timing. Feast days are exciting watch days, but when they come and go without anything happening they can leave a sad taste. This is why I decided to not focus on certain days or periods of time but to simply keep an eye on current events and look forward to the rapture itself, regardless if it’s now, in the near future or years from now. I still have high hopes that it’s this year, but if not then it will be some other time, next year or whenever.

    :good:

    #7563
    RosesinSept
    RosesinSept
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    Vicki,
    I had my hopes up too on Rosh Hoshanna but I dont think we will have to wait another year for the Lord.The rapture is imminent!..I think one important sign is the Revelation 12 sign(see Eternal Rythym Flows videos) the blood moon tetrads starting April 15 2014.This should be tribulation time in my opinion.So rapture is sure to start before then as we are not appointed to wrath:)
    I have had some personal experiences that I cannot prove to anyone but lead me to believe the rapture is imminent.God bless~Roses :rose:

    #7566
    Mom of 2
    Mom of 2
    Participant

    I agree with Brother John and Roses, I think any day could be the day. Perhaps today as Perhaps Today would say. :-)

    We have this treasure in earthen vessels that the excellency of God's power may be of Him and not of us. 2 Cor. 4:7
    #7578
    1993watcher
    1993watcher
    Participant

    I feel compelled to post. I too watch the Feast Days, however: WHAT IF!?!

    What if the Feasts correlate to His First ADVENT and His Second ADVENT meaning His fist coming to the earth w/His feet on the earth and His Second coming to earth w/His feet on the earth? In the rapture we meet Him in the AIR (like it is its own ‘mystery’ event!). So, this leaves us w/the ONLY thing that our Beloved said to us before He departed in the upper room. And it refers to the Ancient Jewish Wedding!

    When Jesus said in John 14 that He was breaking bread and drinking wine making a new covenant with us (marriage contract) and that He was going to prepare a place for us (like the room addition for the ancient Jewish Wedding) and that He would come back for us to take us to be where He is then rather than looking at the FEASTS, let’s look at the Ancient Jewish Wedding Model!!! Seems simple but encouraging to those who believe they have to wait a year for the next Yom Teruah (Feast of Trumpets).

    Clues as to why this should be excited as stated above: Coming Red Blood Moons (For ISRAEL), Sign in the Heavens of Revelation 12 on September 23, 2017 (mid trib in my opinion), and the 2017 Jubilee Year as stated by Rabbie Judah Ben Samuel. I believe (see TXTom older post) on why a Jubilee year MUST be mid trib. FASCINATING study! Keep looking up! I personally believe the Bride is whisked away late 2013 – early 2014! Maranatha to all! :Hi:

    Chuck Missler: The Wedding Model: ;-)

    http://www.khouse.org/articles/2003/449/

    For educational and discussion purposes only

    Romans 8:18 For I consider that the sufferings of this present time are not worthy to be compared with the glory that is to be revealed to us.
    #7586

    Vicki
    Participant

    Thank you all for the encouragement! :heart: :rose:

    Brother John: I like how you look at current events and the rapture and that you
    still have high hopes for this year but patient for whenever it comes!

    Roses in September: It’s exciting to read that you don’t think it’s another year!
    Sounds wonderful! Wish you could share the personal experiences indicating the
    rapture nearness! Sounds interesting to me!

    Mom of 2: When you say Perhaps today, that certainly brightens the day! So true!

    l993 Watcher: Very interesting information on the Blood Red Moons and Jewish wedding!
    So wonderful that our Savior gives us this knowledge to enlighten and encourage us
    as we watch for His return! Late this year or early next is not that far off, but
    sometimes any length of time feels like a long time. Once into eternity, it will all be
    just a speck!

    Thank you again, brothers and sisters! Hope we see each other very soon! Perhaps today! :yahoo:

    #7587
    Perhaps Today
    Perhaps Today
    Participant

    Vicki, I had the same high expectation for the feast days. As far as Jesus waiting for the last gentile to be saved, I think not. Here is my reasoning. God can and has seen the future, therefore, God knows the second that the rapture will occur. So, in God’s view, He knows the beginning from the end and there is a precise second in time for the rapture to occur. I do not think that time floats around the last gentile. The rapture will happen when it happens, gentile saved or not. Just my humble opinion. See you in the air soon. Would love hearing other opinions.

    Psalm 18:1-3, I will love thee, O LORD, my strength. The LORD [is] my rock, and my fortress, and my deliverer; my God, my strength, in whom I will trust; my buckler, and the horn of my salvation, [and] my high tower. I will call upon the LORD, [who is worthy] to be praised: so shall I be saved from mine enemies..
    #7588
    Donna
    Donna
    Participant

    Hi Vicki, glad you shared your thoughts ~~

    ~~this link below (sharing her impression) expresses powerfully, how very real and near the rapture is ~~ I do marvel how watchers are seriously convinced like no other time, that we’re going HOME truly any moment!!
    ~~~~~~~~~~~~ from the link:

    http://www.jesusisthecomingking.com/search?updated-min=2013-01-01T00:00:00-08:00&updated-max=2014-01-01T00:00:00-08:00&max-results=12

    Evil is so strong on the earth, that it can actually be FELT. Many Christians, me included, SENSE this. It comes as a heavy distressing weight and a foreboding of approaching doom. I believe we FEEL this because the Tribulation period [that time of pressure, trouble and affliction] is soon to be truly manifest upon the earth.

    ALL THAT KEEPS IT FROM FLOODING IN IS GOD’S RESTRAINING HOLY SPIRIT!

    Several days ago, I had a fleeting impression [not a vision, not a thought], but a sense of KNOWING. The dividing line between dimensions appeared as thin as a piece of tissue paper. On the other side of that membrane, leathery entities sought to break through, beaks and wings battering the tissue, seeking access to our physical world. The membrane rippled, but did it not tear. The wicked beings could NOT gain access because the RESTRAINER held them back.

    But as soon as the RESTRAINER is “taken out of the way”, the membrane will rip, and that satanic horde of fallen angels will FLOOD the earth. IF WE THINK THE WORLD RIGHT NOW IS INSANE, CHAOTIC AND EVIL, WHEN THE RESTRAINER IS REMOVED, “ALL HELL” WILL CERTAINLY BREAK LOOSE.

    My sense of impending doom is IN RELATION to that NIGHTMARISH spiritual reality. It’s NOT here yet, but it IS indeed near. I BELIEVE GOD GAVE ME THAT IMPRESSION FOR THE PURPOSE OF ME SHARING A WATCHMAN’S WARNING.

    All is NOT gloom and doom, however! The other side of the coin is THE JOY of KNOWING the Lord Jesus Christ. ONLY HE CAN SAVE US FROM THE JUDGMENTS WHICH ARE BEING PREPARED. Bible prophecy, concerning the end times, WILL INDEED be fulfilled. BUT ALSO JESUS WILL “KEEP HIS WORD OF PROMISE” TO A FAITHFUL, OBEDIENT AND TRUE CHURCH!

    #7603

    bonnie
    Participant

    Roses in Sept. …my thoughts exactly !! I have my own personal reasons why I think The Rapture is right at the door . Will be very happy to see all of you IN THE AIR WITH HIM .
    bonnie
    many blessings Church

    #7605
    David R
    David R
    Moderator

    I would not pin my hopes on any theory that limits God. While I think the fall season holds much promise, mostly because I believe the Second Coming will fulfill those feasts, the rapture is not dependent upon any other event. It could be at any time, any moment. There may well be factors involved which have not been revealed to us. We are only told to watch at all times for Him.

    My soul yearns, even faints, for the courts of the Lord; my heart and my flesh cry out for the living God. Psalm 84:2
    #7612
    Shelayne
    Shelayne
    Participant

    Evil is so strong on the earth, that it can actually be FELT. Many Christians, me included, SENSE this. It comes as a heavy distressing weight and a foreboding of approaching doom. I believe we FEEL this because the Tribulation period [that time of pressure, trouble and affliction] is soon to be truly manifest upon the earth.

    I know what she is talking about. I first felt it in 2008, while watching the presidential election campaign season. I couldn’t put a visual with it, it was this heavy, yet very icky feeling. It was so thick and pervasive that I described it to friends as “thick, black, and oily, with dripping fangs”. I have no idea why that description came from my mouth, but it was apt. I also could feel a line being drawn. I did have an image in my head of a finger drawing a line in the sand. Likely the image was from a movie or video, but it went hand-in-hand with the heavy, evil feeling that was sitting on top of me, and I couldn’t shake it. I could feel this division, so-to-speak, this darkness trying to cover the light, and it was spreading like tentacles. I wasn’t scared, as I know I am covered by the Blood of the Lamb, but I was pretty “creeped out”. I kept asking Christian friends if they “felt it, too.” Most of them said they didn’t. I could feel it so much that I truly feared I would actually see some of these “players” morph into demons before my eyes. That, I did NOT want to see, so certain people I would avoid looking at and would turn the channel when they appeared. To this day, I still cannot look or listen to certain individuals. 8-O

    I knew that time was prophetically significant, and so much since 2008 has really confirmed that. As time goes on, it becomes more and more obvious that all the dominoes are lining up in these last days. Our Departure is imminent, Peeps! I am so ready to blow this pop stand! As my son shouts excitedly, as he’s watching football, “LET’S GOOOO!” :yes:

    Your Will be done, Lord. :rose: We are ready when YOU are! :heart:

    You guide me with your counsel, and afterward you will receive me to glory. Whom have I in heaven but you? And there is nothing on earth that I desire besides you. My flesh and my heart may fail, but God is the strength of my heart and my portion forever. Psalm 73:24-26
    #7613
    Im Still Watching
    Im Still Watching
    Participant

    Over the last few years, I’ve seen a repeating cycle of building anticipation and disappointment. People talk about the Lord delaying but that’s not possible because He didn’t give us a date. It’s just that we keep setting high watch dates by our own wisdom which turns out to be foolishness. Events in the world keep building up to a climax and we think the end is upon us and then it all simmers down again as the nations work out an uneasy equilibrium to maintain just enough stability to continue their current courses. People spot planetary alignments (without Biblical proof) and nothing happens.
    The Jewish feast days are interesting but I’ve come to believe that they relate to events in Israel and are not yoked to any date regarding the rapture which is a sign-less event. It would appear that the tetrad will be significant in some way for Israel – my guess would be in relation to the temple mount but we’ll have to wait and see. The tetrads are fuzzy markers and although various people have attached theories and timelines to them, I am still not convinced they point us to a specific date. Given that God is making every effort to warn mankind, it would seem reasonable to me that He may use the lunar eclipses as countdown markers. I don’t think the rapture will be this year but If the rapture hasn’t happened by the end of the tetrad sequence in 2015, then I really don’t know what we’re to make of the imperative to watch the heavens.

    #7619
    rieom
    rieom
    Participant

    I think we need to expect the rapture at any second and I will tell you why. This morning I was thinking about the blood moons and that perhaps that is a time to watch more closely. I was really thinking I do not want to wait that long. The Lord impressed on me the idea it can happen any second and to not watch the dates or events.

    I also have had an experience somewhat similar to Donna’s. I keep forgetting to post but the Lord has reminded me it is to share.

    First abut 4 weeks ago, I was sitting outside praying with my eyes closed. When I opened my eyes and looked up in the sky, I say a HUGE wooden, rough hewn cross take prominence in front of the clouds. I think this was a reminder for me (and others) to bring my burdens to the foot of the cross.

    Then last week, again praying outside (I concentrate better outside) opened my eyes and saw a large square outlined in blue neon with a white cloud center. It reminded me of a book a I loved as a kid about a portal to another world. So, Donna, your post was a confirmation for me.

    This is the day the Lord has made; we will be glad and rejoice in it. Psalm 118:24
    #7639

    Anonymous

    I see what you’re saying, Perhaps Today and many have really good points on here.
    The way I’ve always taken the verse, “I do not want you to be ignorant of this mystery, brothers and sisters, so that you may not be conceited: Israel has experienced a hardening in part until the full number of the Gentiles has come in,..” (Romans 11:25) as pertaining to the church/bride of Christ. As far as when when that full number comes in, we don’t know ,but God does. I guess you could say I’m a Dispensationalist. The age of grace will end with the Rapture of the church.
    Could that set number during this Dispensation of the church happen on a Feast Day? Absolutely. I just don’t only look to the Feasts days alone.
    That being said, people WILL come to Salvation after the church age/Dispensation is up, but they will be required to maintain their Salvation because the age of grace will have been fulfilled. Israel has been blinded only in part until the Lord takes a people unto Himself – that being the church.

    #7640

    Anonymous

    Well, technically, the world entered the season of His coming in 1948. So if you add 70 or 80 years, minus 7 years, the rapture could happen until 2021. But who knows, if God in His foreknowledge sees it fit to make it happen later than 2021, then I’m cool with that. I just have this feeling that the rapture is bound to happen in my lifetime! :yahoo:

    #7642
    Hisapple
    Hisapple
    Spectator

    I really like what Donna mentioned about evil on this earth. Looking at the current events, and even alternative media, we can see how bad the world is and declining into a decay of every sorts.

    However, I realized that whenever I talked about the rapture may not happen as yet, people go ballistic. I wondered have I touched on a sensitive spot that affects them so emotionally. IamStillwatching post speaks how I felt in every sentence. After Israel got back as a nation, in the 1950s, 1960s, 1970s, I am sure that they have been screaming out loud just like us aout the rapture. Year after year, seasons after seasons, time has passed, seconds are gone. And we are still here. Are we suppose to be disappointed with God? Does a Holy God needs to apologize for what He is doing? Absolutely no!

    What I personally felt is that, we watchers, start setting dates, and then we masked them up with date setting on the various fees. And now, I somehow can see the fatigue and some have dropped off. I felt that we should take a step back.re-examine what our foundation and approach is. I remember a post mentioning that Jesus didn’t preach about the rapture. So is that something that we should be focus on? Perhaps the rapture will come only in 2070, where the Jetsons are a reality? We will never know.

    It affects our faith tremendously even to the slightest dot. “where is God in my suffering?” “Are you a silent God like the rapture?” It affects out foundation in Christ when we do not see things happen.

    What I would suggest is that we can do a self check and perhaps look at the rapture in a different perspective.

    P.S. I know that this is the kind of post that the people here would like to see. But I am doing it purely out of love, love in Christ.

    I am His apple, in whom He is well pleased.
    #7655

    Anonymous

    Hisapple, I can see where you’re coming from too. I just see things happening at break-neck speed as far as prophecy goes. I wonder if the Psalm 83 battle, Isaiah 17 and Ezekiel 38-39 will be able to hold out until 2021. Israel knows they have to act and everyone is posturing and is in place. Not to even mention how this pope is reaching out to atheists and agnostics and saying “just follow your conscience and you’ll be saved”. Unless the Lord kicks the prophecy can down the road and puts a stop to all of this until that time. We have our oceans dying (one of the seals) hyperinflation along with a worldwide economic collapse very soon on the horizon (another seal), earthquakes are increasing and “natural disasters, etc…. all lining up. Not to mention wars and rumors of wars, nation rising agains nation, mockery of our Lord, men waxing worse and worse, we could all go on about how things are becoming worse each day.
    I don’t see anything wrong in people looking forwars to our redemption and being with the Lord. It gives people hope and some are suffering to degrees many of us cannot fathom. I believe the Lord has the crown awaiting “for all those who long for His appearing”.
    The verse I look to concerning this is,
    “For the Lord Himself will descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of an archangel, and with the trumpet of God. And the dead in Christ will rise first. 17 Then we who are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air. And thus we shall always be with the Lord. 18 Therefore comfort one another with these words.” (1 Thessalonians 16-18)

    #7659

    Anonymous

    You’re right Shiloh. As far as prophetic signs go, we’re seeing them almost daily now. I really think something big is about to happen possibly within the next 12 months!

    #7662
    TxThom
    TxThom
    Moderator

    I pay attention to feasts, but I’m not waiting for a feast, but for my Betrothed. Especially since each and every feast points to Christ in one form or another. But, especially considering the time, we are waiting to leave this mortal tabernacle behind to move to our permanent home. A nice description of the Feast of Tabernacles. The second portion of the Passover-Tabernacle lunar tetrad events. Or, should He tarry a bit more, how about Hannukah – the second Tabernacles, established after the Temple was changed from corrupted to incorrupted / Holy again. A nice week long event, so no specific day or hour involved. And it’s a “feast” added on to the one’s God presented to Israel, kinda like He chose a people for Himself out of the Gentile Nations. One which He celebrated when He was in Israel last time. And because of the barley harvest debate, we get to watch for each of these week long events (culminating in a big party at the end) twice.

    But everyday I watch Israel to see what’s up there. Feast days are theories. Israel is fact. It seems very likely that soon He will be dealing directly with Israel again, which means Daniel’s 70th week will be in play, which means we’ll have balcony seats. And probably too thrilled and distracted to watch.

    ...bow before God, for the testimony of Jesus is the spirit of the prophecy. Revelation 19:10
    For all of you who were baptized into Christ have clothed yourselves with Christ. Galatians 3:27
    I am convinced of this, that the One who began a good action among you will bring it to completion by the Day of the Messiah Jesus. Philippians 1:6

    #7670

    Anonymous

    When Daniel gave forth his 70 weeks prophecy,no one knew when the Messiah would come because they didn’t know how the counting should have started.If they figured out the decree was given out by King Artaxerxes in 445 B.C. Nisan was the beginning of the 70 weeks,then they would have known that the Messiah they cut off in 32 A.D. Nisan 15 was the Messiah Daniel has prophesied.

    Same thought can lead to the second coming of Christ,and how the event relates to the date of rapture.

    From Daniel 9:27 we learn that the tribulation can only last 7 biblical years or 2520 days.And when we agree that Christ shall fulfill the Fall feast of Israel with his second coming,all we need to do is to subtract a future Yom Kippur by 2520 days,to arrive at the date of rapture.

    When the first 69 weeks gives the clue as to the date of Messiah being cut off,won’t it be true that the 70th week should also give us the date of the rapture,by seeking the pattern of Christ fulfilling the seven Feasts of Israel?

    Having said this,when Jesus first came and fulfilled the spring feast of Israel,his second coming shall take place on a future fall feast of Israel.It doesn’t take a rocket scientist to figure this out.

    The only question is,in what year shall Christ’s return fulfill the Yom Kippur?

    2019,2020,or 2021?

    Right now I am leaning toward 2020 Yom Kippur.And by subtracting 2520 days from it,we come to November 3 this year.

    #7677

    Anonymous

    There is a purpose of Daniel’s 69 weeks,and the last week.It is for the Jews to identify the date of first coming of Messiah,and the second coming of Christ after they missed him during his first visit.

    By the work of Sir Scott Anderson,we understand that the Jews has missed their Messiah on April 14 32 A.D.

    But according to scripture,they shall not miss him at the second time he comes,because they have the last week pinpoint to the date Messiah shall come.The calculation is inspired by the first calculation,when they add 7 biblical years or 2520 days from the day the tribulation begins,that is,from the day hundreds of millions of Christians disappear from the earth.

    And this is one of the reason i don’t believe the gap theory.

    #7678

    Anonymous

    Daniel’s 69 week is for them to recognize the date their messiah shall come.But instead they crucified him for not knowing the date.

    I doubt if they shall miss the date of the second coming of their Messiah.Otherwise the whole book of bible should have been rewritten.And that is the whole purpose of Daniel’s last week,which is to pinpoint the accuracy of the date Messiah shall come the second time.

    #7703
    Tom
    Tom
    Moderator

    Thats good info 2nd coming but the problem with your numbers for timing of rapture is that even though the trib will be 2520 days long, it will not be 7 solar years long. Christ has told us that the days would be shortened and Revelation tells us that the sun and moon will be cut by 1/3 at some point during the trib.

    So, if the hours in a day are shortened to 16 instead of 24, that means we don’t know or can calculate exactly how many solar years Daniels 70th week will last. An educated guess is that it will be between 4 1/2 to 6 solar years long. It all depends on when the shortened days start.

    Great discussion.

    #7718
    Remnant Navi
    Remnant Navi
    Participant

    I like Perhaps Today’s logic- yes we have free will and can make choices and yes the fullness of the Gentiles may mean when that last gentile chooses Christ – but God already knows when those choices will take place and always has, He could have easily marked that last Gentile choice day as a feast day if He chose to.

    I also like 2ndcomings logic – no we don’t know if the rapture will be on a feast day, but the fall season does make sense and here is why. We know that the actual second coming must fulfill the fall feasts, since the spring feasts were acted out and fulfilled in the first coming the fall feasts logically must be fulfilled by the second coming – in the fall. So if we can be relatively certain that the second coming will be in the fall- subtract 7 years won’t the rapture also be in the fall?

    Yet I also like Tom’s logic (good to see you posting brother) since the days are to be shortened we are not 100 percent sure how God will reckon that time so assuming there is no gap- the rapture could occur late fall, winter, early spring- even summer? Due to the shortening of the days.

    Finally also a shout out to Donna for the “thin membrane” article – I will confess this is the greatest source of my rapture “doubts” and why I frequent this forum to keep myself pumped full of faith. The lie from hell that often troubles me and maybe many of you is that “if the rapture were going to happen- it would have happened by now” (therefore the lie is that maybe the rapture isn’t going to happen) The thing that troubles me is that I never thought that God would have left us here this long to witness the evil and blasphemy we are witnessing, this is what leads many astray into thinking we have already entered the trib- but Donna’s article hit the nail on the head about the evil trying to poke through the membrane but can’t yet break it due to the restrainer. And of course scripture talked about this restrainer many years ago telling us not to be troubled that this day would not come until the restrainer is removed.

    Great post everyone, thanks for all the inputs.

    #7721
    Mom of 2
    Mom of 2
    Participant

    I agree with Perhaps Today that there is a specific time, the teaching that the faster we lead others to Christ the faster we go is not logical. Such an important event would not be left up to men but God.

    A few things that reinforce my belief that we are just waiting is the push of the **** lifestyle worldwide, global communication and transportation, natural disasters happening almost everyday and Christianity and the Jews being surrounded be enemies.

    We have this treasure in earthen vessels that the excellency of God's power may be of Him and not of us. 2 Cor. 4:7
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