Mid-East Prophecy Update (February 12, 2017)

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    bgkimbr
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    With Love,
    YBIC



    #128330

    Watchman35
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    As I listened to JD talk about the spirit of delusion that is upon the God-haters, it is simultaneously both breathtaking and a preview of what is to come once we are home at Abba’s house with our Bridegroom and the Restrainer has been removed. I believe it is going to be more horrific than any of us can even begin to fully comprehend or imagine. Sometimes it makes me just want to grab people, shake them, and scream at the top of my lungs, “Don’t you get it!?! All hell is about to break loose on this planet before souls are cast into eternal separation from God. And God has made a way for you to escape through faith in the perfectly righteous life, sacrificially atoning death, and death-defeating resurrection of Yeshua the Messiah!!! Wake up!!!” I know–probably not the most wise, spiritually annointed, effective way to evangelize. Nevertheless, Abba, Thy will be done.

    John 14:1-3 “Let not your heart be troubled; you believe in God, believe also in Me. In My Father’s house are many mansions; if it were not so, I would have told you. I go to prepare a place for you. And if I go and prepare a place for you, I will come again and receive you to Myself; that where I am, there you may be also."

    #128338
    Regina
    Regina
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    watchman, thats how i feel about my loved ones. I keep reminding myself that God brings the increase. we can talk all the day long and do all kinds of things, but God is the one who brings increase.
    seeds can be planted, watered, fertilized, talked to,
    but God gives life
    Father God, bring the increase we pray, Your kingdom come, Your will be done on earth as it is in heaven. We pray for Your plans for our loved ones and the lost to be drawn to Jesus, to realize who He is and that they need Him, in Jesus name we ask, for Your glory and for the sake of His name, Saviour. Amen

    Ani L'Dodi V'Dodi Li
    I am my beloved's, my beloved is mine

    #128345
    Heather R
    Heather R
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    As I listened to JD talk about the spirit of delusion that is upon the God-haters, it is simultaneously both breathtaking and a preview of what is to come once we are home at Abba’s house with our Bridegroom and the Restrainer has been removed.

    Personally, I don’t really like that he is using the context of the post-rapture “strong delusion” and applying it to what we see now. I don’t think the two are even partially on-par with one another. I also think taking this out of context is another one of those things where people have a great opportunity for being misled…

    All hell is about to break loose on this planet before souls are cast into eternal separation from God. And God has made a way for you to escape through faith in the perfectly righteous life, sacrificially atoning death, and death-defeating resurrection of Yeshua the Messiah!!!

    Perhaps I’m reading too far into things, but I believe the greatest trauma from taking things out of context is people not realizing the severity of the situation that is seen now is literally not even a drop in the bucket for how it’ll be after we’re gone. If people think they’re in good shape now living through these “end times”, then maybe they won’t have to change anything or believe on anyone because if it’s only going to be more of the same, maybe they’ll be just fine then, too. I don’t like it.

    And Satan knowing he hath but a short time isn’t referring to now, either. It’s referring to the last half of the Week.

    What we see now was warned of in II Timothy 4, and it’s bad and growing worse, for sure. But it is not the strong delusion that is specifically reserved for people left behind after the rapture. It’s more like the spirit of lawlessness already at work, as referenced in II Thessalonians 2. Big difference. But I love Pastor JD and appreciate what he does.

    Romans1:16 For I am not ashamed of the gospel of Christ: for it is the power of God unto salvation to every one that believeth; to the Jew first, and also to the Greek. 17 For therein is the righteousness of God revealed from faith to faith: as it is written, The just shall live by faith.
    #128350
    Donna
    Donna
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    hardly even a drop in the bucket for how it’ll be after we’re gone.

    Truth ~~ lost souls are seriously blind ~ and have no idea of what’s coming on this planet, like never before and never again ~~


    #128353
    churchgal
    churchgal
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    I can relate completely as I just had a mind numbing hours long argument with a person that I don’t even know about the murderous truth about islam….despite after providing example after example, reference after reference….all this person did was try to change tactics and attack Christianity…actually trying to equate the two!!! I found it absolutely unbelievable that an adult that can put a sentence together is literally choosing to be blind about this topic…and I have seen the same strategy repeated over and over in other conversations whether it is about abortion, homosexuality, climate change or immigration. I do agree with Heather that the strong delusion that is coming will be beyond what we can even comprehend currently…but I tell you after that exasperating argument I can have fully come to the conclusion that some people are choosing to convince themselves of a lie, no matter what evidence is given to them to the contrary…if it aligns with their agenda. I will need to avoid those conversations in the future, it made me want to bang my head against a brick wall…or better yet…their’s….I think I need a safe space from morons… :wacko:

    "and all creation sing with me now, lift up your voice and lay your burdens down...let all of creation sing with me now fill up the heavens let HIs glory resound, and every knee will bow, oh in every tongue praise the Father, praise the Son and the Spirit in One!!"

    #128354
    David R
    David R
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    What we see now was warned of in II Timothy 4, and it’s bad and growing worse, for sure. But it is not the strong delusion that is specifically reserved for people left behind after the rapture. It’s more like the spirit of lawlessness already at work, as referenced in II Thessalonians 2. Big difference. But I love Pastor JD and appreciate what he does.

    I once read a novel which described what is going on now as the “prodromal period.”

    Definition
    noun
    The time when early signs and symptoms of a disease appear but not yet clinically specific nor severe

    Supplement
    Prodromal period is one of the four major stages of a disease. The first stage is referred to as incubation period followed by a prodromal period. At prodromal period, the symptoms may not be very specific or severe. The affected person can still perform usual functions although distress or discomfort may be felt. Following prodromal is the illness period and the final stage is the convalescent period.

    http://www.biology-online.org/dictionary/Prodromal_period

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    What we are witnessing is a form of insanity, not because of political differences, but because it involves an unwillingness to cope with reality. Or more precisely, it is an attempt to redefine reality so that it conforms to one’s own preferences. That is much broader than the issue of who won the election.

    I would not call this THE Lie, as Pastor J.D. suggests. THE Lie would be the opposite of THE Truth, which is Jesus Christ.

    My soul yearns, even faints, for the courts of the Lord;
    my heart and my flesh cry out for the living God. Psalm 84:2


    #128355
    Heather R
    Heather R
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    Agreed with David. I’d further suggest this is the reprobate mind God has given them over to because they have continued to reject Him and His Son.

    Romans 1:28 And even as they did not like to retain God in their knowledge, God gave them over to a reprobate mind, to do those things which are not convenient; 29 Being filled with all unrighteousness, fornication, wickedness, covetousness, maliciousness; full of envy, murder, debate, deceit, malignity; whisperers, 30 Backbiters, haters of God, despiteful, proud, boasters, inventors of evil things, disobedient to parents, 31 Without understanding, covenantbreakers, without natural affection, implacable, unmerciful: 32 Who knowing the judgment of God, that they which commit such things are worthy of death, not only do the same, but have pleasure in them that do them.

    Romans1:16 For I am not ashamed of the gospel of Christ: for it is the power of God unto salvation to every one that believeth; to the Jew first, and also to the Greek. 17 For therein is the righteousness of God revealed from faith to faith: as it is written, The just shall live by faith.
    #128359
    Regina
    Regina
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    it isn’t logical to think that every person who moves to another country is a good person and all the bad ones stay where they were born. to move legally to any country there are screenings. unfortunately, in war torn countries or countries where records are not kept well, there may not be birth records or records of arrest or other ways of checking out potential immigrants, maybe they don’t have medical records or access to get chest X-ray screening for tb or other health problems. in emergency situations to save lives of people trapped in war areas, perhaps there can be a “middle ground” where they can go to safety while health screening or other checks are done. this all may be a moot point though, because when the rapture happens and the church is gone, the days will come as the bible says when “the best of them is as a briar”
    There is so much wrong in the world now with unjust leadership, unjust judges, lovers of lawlessness, truly, there is only life and righteousness through faith in Jesus Christ.

    perhaps all this immigration is getting people out of the areas that will be judged—Elam as in Jer 49, Esau as in Obadiah, and the armies of Ez 38 & 39, other areas talked about by the prophets–Ezek 30 about Egypt and Ethiopia; some people from every language, every nation will eventually be saved. during the 70th week, perhaps some of these who have come in the immigrations to Europe and North America will realize then that Jesus is the Saviour, their only hope for eternal life. maybe some will even accept Jesus before the rapture.

    Rev 5:9 And they sang a new song: “Worthy are You to take the scroll and open its seals, because You were slain, and by Your blood You purchased for God those from every tribe and tongue and people and nation.
    10 You have made them into a kingdom, priests to serve our God, and they will reign on the earth.”

    Rev 7:9 After this I looked and saw a multitude too large to count, from every nation and tribe and people and tongue, standing before the throne and before the Lamb. They were clothed in white robes, with palm branches in their hands. 10 And they cried out in a loud voice: “Salvation to our God, who sits on the throne, and to the Lamb!”
    Rev 5:9-10, Rev 7:9-10
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    Ani L'Dodi V'Dodi Li
    I am my beloved's, my beloved is mine

    #128360
    Donna
    Donna
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    the strong delusion that is coming will be beyond what we can even comprehend currently…

    yet, even now, God’s making plain the contrast of Light and darkness ~~ the spiritual battle increases . . and we are ever confident of the Victor ~~


    #128365
    TakeMeHome
    TakeMeHome
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    I’m in agreement with David’s example and Heather as far as stage we’re in and what we’re seeing is God giving those over to reprobate mind.

    Sadly, in America this involves even leaders in high places dividing, threatening to destroy the country on many fronts.

    Thank God for our blessed hope, Jesus.

    #128366
    TakeMeHome
    TakeMeHome
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    Churchgal, I understand your mind numbing frustration. Been there done that!

    Now, I try to limit my attempts to explain a matter to no more than 3 times. If the resistance to rational discussion continues I dust off my feet and move on.

    If your in an online discussion about Islam, and ready to close, I leave them with a You Tube video by Bridgette Gabrielle called the Muslim Brotherhood plan for America. (I can’t paste thu URL from my phone) written by the Muslim Brotherhood!

    She is a Christian originally from Lebanon that lived with persecution in childhood years until finally escaping to Israel.

    Be blessed in Christ

    #128369
    churchgal
    churchgal
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    Yes, I totally concur,..exactly what it is…. giving over to a reprobate mind-

    “What we are witnessing is a form of insanity, not because of political differences, but because it involves an unwillingness to cope with reality. Or more precisely, it is an attempt to redefine reality so that it conforms to one’s own preferences. That is much broader than the issue of who won the election”….

    David, that hits the description nail directly on the head…I felt as though I was dealing with someone who was unable to grasp reality and being in the medical profession, I very well know that you can not rationalize with a person who is not oriented to reality, and ordinarily I am on guard for that but social media slipped up on me!

    and Take Me Home..thanks for the comment! :good: I know of Brigitte’s work well, have read both of her books and that video clip is awesome…
    Finally, thank you to all…all who read…all who post and respond, for it is a warm, welcome and sane place to come for discussion, fellowship and anticipation of our Blessed Hope
    love you all :rose:

    "and all creation sing with me now, lift up your voice and lay your burdens down...let all of creation sing with me now fill up the heavens let HIs glory resound, and every knee will bow, oh in every tongue praise the Father, praise the Son and the Spirit in One!!"

    #128370
    Tender Reed
    Tender Reed
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    The spirit of stupid lives. Between being turned over to a reprobate mindset and being infused with a spirit of confusion, many are simply reaping what they have sown into their hearts, their lives, their politics and their souls!

    God is still Almighty, sovereign, and in complete control. As He allows this world to set themselves up for God’s judgments, hearts of men are being revealed. Again so that all will be without excuse in that day of Judgment!

    Men are now building their own gallows, for their own hanging! How ironically appropriate of God to do so!

    Commentary and teachings are great fun, but wisdom is a better servant.

    TR


    #128373
    Donna
    Donna
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    We are seeing the world’s reaping ~~ it’s almost over, the darkness and it’s people preferring it ~~ . . We know for sure no one enters Heaven except all who love Jesus and His Light, His amazing Holiness and Righteousness and Love ~~

    Interestingly Jesus was never frustrated here on earth . .He cried yes, . .

    Love Jesus, love the Father, ~~ love the Father love Jesus ~~ Thank God for the Holy Spirit revealing the Light of the LORD ~


    #128383

    Watchman35
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    I think I need a safe space from morons… :wacko:

    LOL Thanks for the laugh. The emoticon is perfect.

    John 14:1-3 “Let not your heart be troubled; you believe in God, believe also in Me. In My Father’s house are many mansions; if it were not so, I would have told you. I go to prepare a place for you. And if I go and prepare a place for you, I will come again and receive you to Myself; that where I am, there you may be also."

    #128402
    gobyebye
    gobyebye
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    I would agree that too many Christians in America have their treasure in this world.
    This raises the question of whether these people will go up in the Rapture.

    #128408
    Heather R
    Heather R
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    I would agree that too many Christians in America have their treasure in this world.
    This raises the question of whether these people will go up in the Rapture.

    Of course.

    I Corinthians 3:11 For other foundation can no man lay than that is laid, which is Jesus Christ. 12 Now if any man build upon this foundation gold, silver, precious stones, wood, hay, stubble; 13 Every man’s work shall be made manifest: for the day shall declare it, because it shall be revealed by fire; and the fire shall try every man’s work of what sort it is. 14 If any man’s work abide which he hath built thereupon, he shall receive a reward. 15 If any man’s work shall be burned, he shall suffer loss: but he himself shall be saved; yet so as by fire.

    Romans1:16 For I am not ashamed of the gospel of Christ: for it is the power of God unto salvation to every one that believeth; to the Jew first, and also to the Greek. 17 For therein is the righteousness of God revealed from faith to faith: as it is written, The just shall live by faith.
    #128409
    MyWhiteStone
    MyWhiteStone
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    This raises the question of whether these people will go up in the Rapture.

    John 3:12 If I have told you earthly things and you do not believe, how will you believe if I tell you heavenly things? 13 No one has ascended to heaven but He who came down from heaven, that is, the Son of Man who is in heaven. 14 And as Moses lifted up the serpent in the wilderness, even so must the Son of Man be lifted up, 15 that whoever believes in Him should not perish but have eternal life. 16 For God so loved the world that He gave His only begotten Son, that whoever believes in Him should not perish but have everlasting life. 17 For God did not send His Son into the world to condemn the world, but that the world through Him might be saved. 18 “He who believes in Him is not condemned; but he who does not believe is condemned already, because he has not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God.

    John 6:28 Then they said to Him, “What shall we do, that we may work the works of God?” 29 Jesus answered and said to them, “This is the work of God, that you believe in Him whom He sent.

    Romans 10:8 But what does it say? “The word is near you, in your mouth and in your heart” (that is, the word of faith which we preach): 9 that if you confess with your mouth the Lord Jesus and believe in your heart that God has raised Him from the dead, you will be saved. 10 For with the heart one believes unto righteousness, and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation. 11 For the Scripture says, “Whoever believes on Him will not be put to shame.”

    Believers will go in the Rapture. Period. Do Christians possessing treasures within their enjoyable surroundings signify they never believed in Jesus? Preposterous! Belief is everything. Rewards?? Well, that’s a matter discussed in 1 Corinthians 3.

    The Rapture will not be withheld from believers.

    I know that my Redeemer lives, and that in the end He will stand upon the earth. And after my skin has been destroyed, yet in my flesh I will see God; I myself will see Him with my own eyes -- I, and not another. How my heart yearns within me! Job19:25-27



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