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  • #130191

    2ndcoming
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    For illustration purposes, I use my speculative timeline of Pentecost 2018 to Nisan 15 2025. Below is what I have written few days ago.

    [ In Book of Revelation,we find there shall be 1st woe,2nd woe judgment. Concerning the 3rd woe, God didn’t mention what that is. I used to think 3rd woe has something to do with a global warfare. But right now I am leaning toward it being the release of the seven vials judgment.

    The reason I brought the woes up because I am trying to link their timing to the “time” and “times”. Take my timeline for illustration, the three tabernacles Israeli have to go through are follows;

    2022 Feast of Tabernacle 1st woe

    2023 Feast of Tabernacle 2nd woe

    2024 Feast of Tabernacle 3rd woe release of the seven vials judgment

    For each Feast of Tabernacle Israeli have to go through, God shall bring forth a woe judgment. The 7th trumpet may very well sound on 2024 Feast of Tabernacle which is to bring forth the seven vials judgment. ]

    I begin with the Mid-trib.

    Revelation 8:1 And when he had opened the seventh seal, there was silence in heaven about the space of half an hour.

    From Revelation 3:10,we learn that God symbols the 7 years tribulation as one hour.

    Revelation 3:10 Because thou hast kept the word of my patience, I also will keep thee from the hour of temptation, which shall come upon all the world, to try them that dwell upon the earth.

    So half hour shall take us to Oct 31 2021. The seventh seal shall be opened on or around this date. It shall bring forth the seven trumpets judgment because of what the nations did to Israeli. This is how God recompense nations for their trodden down of His land and scattering His people.

    Revelation 9:12 One woe is past; and, behold, there come two woes more hereafter.

    The release of 1st,2nd,3rd,4th and 5th trumpet shall occur between Oct 31 2021 and Tabernacle 2022,and brings the 1st woe to past.

    Oct 31 2021 —– 1st,2nd,3rd,4th,5th trumpet —— Tabernacle 2022 1st woe comes to past

    6th trumpet is world war three. It is also the fulfillment of Daniel 11:44,Micah 5:5 and Zechariah 1:18-21. 6th trumpet shall be sounded immediately after the 1st woe comes to past, very likely a short while after the Tabernacle 2022.

    Tabernacle 2022 —- 6th trumpet ——Tabernacle 2023 2nd woe

    2nd woe falls on Tabernacle 2023. This is also the time the two witnesses are killed.

    Revelation 11:11 And after three days and an half the Spirit of life from God entered into them, and they stood upon their feet; and great fear fell upon them which saw them. 12And they heard a great voice from heaven saying unto them, Come up hither. And they ascended up to heaven in a cloud; and their enemies beheld them. 13And the same hour was there a great earthquake, and the tenth part of the city fell, and in the earthquake were slain of men seven thousand: and the remnant were affrighted, and gave glory to the God of heaven.

    14The second woe is past; and, behold, the third woe cometh quickly.

    When we subtract 1260 days of their ministry,we come to on or around Passover 2020 as the beginning of their ministry. Passover 2020 is already 2 years into tribulation since 2018 Spring. By this time the third temple should be complete. Because of Revelation 11:1-3.it’s my long thought that their appearance shall tie in with the third temple.

    Tabernacle 2024 3rd woe judgment.

    On and around 2024 Tabernacle, God shall have the 7th trumpet sounded,and bring forth the 3rd woe which is the release of the 7 vials.

    Revelation 11:15 And the seventh angel sounded; and there were great voices in heaven, saying, The kingdoms of this world are become the kingdoms of our Lord, and of his Christ; and he shall reign for ever and ever. 16And the four and twenty elders, which sat before God on their seats, fell upon their faces, and worshipped God, 17Saying, We give thee thanks, O Lord God Almighty, which art, and wast, and art to come; because thou hast taken to thee thy great power, and hast reigned. 18And the nations were angry, and thy wrath is come, and the time of the dead, that they should be judged, and that thou shouldest give reward unto thy servants the prophets, and to the saints, and them that fear thy name, small and great; and shouldest destroy them which destroy the earth.

    There is a reason for heaven rejoice at the sounding of 7th trumpet. Take men 110 meter hurdle as example. At the final crossing of the last hurdle,the crowd shall get so excited that they stand up and cheer for the runners. Since Israeli entered the promised land in 1406 BC, they were commanded by God to sound the trumpet on the 10th of Tishri. Even though for the lack of their obedience,or due to wars,exile,God would not have this event forgotten,and very likely to use this as “the marker” of Israeli’s journey on earth.

    From 1406 BC to 2024 AD,there would have been 3430 trumpets sounded on Tishri 10. The calculation is listed below.

    1406 BC 1st trumpet sounded on Tishri 10

    1405 BC 2nd trumpet sounded on Tishri 10

    1404 BC 3rd trumpet sounded on Tishri 10

    1406 + 2023 ( 2024 – 1 since there is no 0 in AD) = 3429

    But we need to add 1 to 3429 when the first and last is included. It comes to 3430 or 70 jubilees.

    On Tishri 10 2024,there are total 3430 trumpets sounded since Israeli entered the promised land. We also see the completion of 70 jubilees. When God does use Tishri 10 as the marker of Israeli’s beginning and their end,2024 Tabernacle shall be their “very last hurdle” Israeli have to go through, because on their next Tabernacle in 2025, they shall enter the Millennium kingdom together with their Lord Jesus. This is the reason heaven is rejoicing at the sounding of 7th trumpet.

    Between Tabernacle 2024 and Nisan 15 2025, the world shall have to go through the 7 vials judgment,with Jesus returning on Nisan 15 to end all these events. Concerning the 1335 days and 1290 days, my belief is 1335 days have these days begin with the third temple destruction,while 1290 days are the days since the abomination set up,until the day Jesus returns.

    August 17 2021 destruction of the third temple —– 1335 days —— Nisan 15 2025

    Oct 1 2021 set up of abomination, MOB —— 1290 days —— Nisan 15 2025

    All these begin with AC’s campaign to destroy Israel on or around Oct 6 2020 Feast of Tabernacle ( subtract 390 days siege from Oct 31 2021). My speculation is this is the time the dedication of third temple begins. AC is invited to this ceremony on 2020 Feast of Trumpets. This is also in remembrance of the dedication of the first temple Solomon held on the previous Tishri 10. Jesus has forth warned Israeli to flee when they see the abomination/AC stand on the Holy Place/third temple which ought not. This is the beginning of times of Jacob’s trouble.

    I shall continue with the events on first half of tribulation later.

    #130197

    2ndcoming
    Participant

    Now I am going to cover the first half of tribulation.

    Pentecost 2018 Tribulation begins with God removing the church from earth.

    First seal Arrival of Anti Christ (Daniel 11:21)

    Second seal Peace being taken away from earth. Eruption of regional conflict all over the world, wars and rumors of wars.

    Third seal Global economic collapse/meltdown, hyperinflation, daily wage can only buy one loaf of bread.

    Fourth seal Death shall follow one quarter of earth with sword,hunger.

    These four seals shall be opened simultaneously following the event rapture. They shall dominate the entire Spring of 2018.

    Fifth seal is a question.

    Sixth seal Gog/Magog war, Ezekiel 38:17-23, Daniel 11:22. Seeing US and much of Europe being crippled by the event rapture, Gog shall seize this opportunity to invade Israel, together with Turkey and Iran. This event shall take place in summer. Because God intervenes, this war shall be quick and decisive. Many Israeli shall come to Christ through this event. Sealing of 144,000 begins.

    A note here. After Gog/Magog, there shall be a power vacuum left in that region,with Russia being pushed back to their north,and military arms of Turkey and Iran being destroyed. AC shall capitalize this opportunity to form a league we find in Daniel 11:23. That league is the revival of Roman empire with two legs coming together. Ten Kings shall be appointed to rule this newly formed league with AC (Revelation 17:12) for “one hour”. Saudi and her Arab league member states will not join this league. They were never part of Old Roman empire.

    Late in 2018, possibly on Dec 25 ( 2300 days of continued transgression of little horn in Daniel 8), AC shall confirm the covenant with many nations including Israel (Daniel 11:24). Israel shall enlarge her territory. Construction of third temple is about to begin.

    From early 2019 to the end of that year, the war between King of the North (AC) and the King of the South (Arab league led by Saudi) shall break out (Daniel 11:25-26). Arab league led by Saudi shall be furious with the arrangement of third temple being built on Temple Mount,with the removal of Dome of Rock. This is AC’s first move toward the south we find in Daniel 11:29,represented by “the former”. Saudi shall be humiliated by AC and his ten Kings alliance during this battle.

    AC shall make one more move toward the south in 2020. But it shall not be as the former, or as the latter (Daniel 11:29). The former is his battle with King of the South (Saudi). The latter is his invasion against Israel later on. It is further explained by Daniel 11:30.

    Daniel 11:30 For the ships of Chittim shall come against him: therefore he shall be grieved, and return, and have indignation against the holy covenant: so shall he do; he shall even return, and have intelligence with them that forsake the holy covenant.

    My belief is US is the Chittim,possibly still under Trump administration. They shall thwart AC’s second attempt toward the south. By now we are already in 2020. Third temple should be complete by then,likely on or around Passover with the appearance of two witnesses.

    2020 Feast of Tabernacles Dedication of third temple begins. AC is invited as guest for this ceremony. Jesus has forewarned Israeli to flee when they shall see the abomination/AC stand on the Holy Place/Third Temple which he ought not. Tragic thing happens around this time. 390 days of siege on Jerusalem begins (Ezekiel 4-5). These 390 days shall bring them to Mid-Trib on Oct 31 2021 when AC shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease. He shall also change the times and Law of Israel by abandoning their Feast and their Torah. This is also the time God shall unleash the trumpets and vials judgment by opening the 7th seal.

    And we can find the rest of trumpets and vials judgment from my first post.

    #130203

    2ndcoming
    Participant

    [ August 17 2021 destruction of the third temple —– 1335 days —— Nisan 15 2025

    Oct 1 2021 set up of abomination, MOB —— 1290 days —— Nisan 15 2025 ]

    I have placed the destruction of third temple before the set up of abomination. I do have scripture to back me up.

    Daniel 9:27 And he shall confirm the covenant with many for one week: and in the midst of the week he shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease, and for the overspreading of abominations he shall make it desolate, even until the consummation, and that determined shall be poured upon the desolate.

    I have attached the Hebrew version below.

    http://biblehub.com/text/daniel/9-27.htm

    The keyword is overspreading which is Hebrew kanaph. It stands for wings,extremity.

    http://biblehub.com/hebrew/3671.htm

    The word overspreading is wrong in this interpretation.It should have been understood as corners,wings,extremity. It is very interesting to see AC set up his abomination on the corners/wings of the temple. It should be due to the fact that the third temple has been destroyed,and only leave the wings of altar intact. And this is why AC can only set up his abomination on the corner/wings of the temple.

    I believe we have discussed this scenario few years ago.

    #130204

    2ndcoming
    Participant

    I have placed the 6th trumpet on and around Fall Feast 2022, after the 1st woe. Let’s see if this holds any merit.

    From Daniel 11:42-43, we learn that AC shall go after Egypt,Libya,Ethiopia after “he shall enter also into the glorious land” in Daniel 11:41. I shall elaborate on the scenario of “he shall enter also into the glorious land” later. The invasion on Egypt,Libya and Ethiopia shall take place after the mid-trib (Oct 31 2011),after Israel is utterly destroyed.

    From Isaiah 20:3-4,we learn that Egypt and Ethiopia shall be fallen into the hand of King of Assyria/AC for three years. The three years are spring/summer 2022 unto return of Jesus on Spring 2025.

    But we also learn that Ethiopia shall send a swift messenger to a nation scattered and peeled, to a people terrible from their beginning hitherto; a nation meted out and trodden down, whose land the rivers have spoiled (Isaiah 18:1-2). I have stated before that this nation is China. Somewhere on and around Fall 2022, China shall engage in this conflict by sending an huge army possibly 100 million strong to battle with AC and his revived Roman empire. This is the sounding of 6th trumpet or better known as world war three with 1/3 being killed. Russia and seven shepherds and eight principal men/nations (Micah 5:5) shall also participate with China.

    The 6th trumpet sounded on Fall 2022 does have the merit and the backing of scripture.

    Concerning Daniel 11:41 “He shall enter also into the glorious land”,I have people challenging the view that AC will not invade Israel,but to enter the glorious land/Jerusalem peacefully. I think my scenario has best answered “he shall enter also into the glorious land” by stating that he is invited to the dedication of third temple during the Feast of Tabernacles 2020. He does enter the glorious land peacefully. But I have also suggested that some tragic event happen after he enters Jerusalem,which shall lead to the opening of times of Jacob’s trouble.

    #130237

    2ndcoming
    Participant

    Revelation 11:11 And after three days and an half the Spirit of life from God entered into them, and they stood upon their feet; and great fear fell upon them which saw them. 12And they heard a great voice from heaven saying unto them, Come up hither. And they ascended up to heaven in a cloud; and their enemies beheld them.

    I have been puzzled by the three days and an half for a while. Why can’t God say three days,or four days? Why does it have to be three days and an half?

    While I was pondering on this myth today, a thought came to me. “Think Feast of Tabernacle!”

    Ah ha, I understood right away. The three days and an half points to the middle of Feast of Tabernacle when this feast lasts seven days. Seven days divided by 2 = 3.5 days. It is the same way of revealing “time,times,and dividing of time” in which God wants us to understand the day Jesus returns. God wants us to know the day the two witnesses’ resurrection and ascension to heaven. It shall take place in the middle of Feast of Tabernacle.

    But some may suggest Feast of Unleavened Bread which lasts seven days also. But “the thought” said to me “Think Feast of Tabernacle”, not Feast of Unleavened Bread. Plus Feast of Tabernacle fits into my timeline.

    #130249

    2ndcoming
    Participant

    Let’s go back to this timeline:

    [ 2022 Feast of Tabernacle 1st woe

    2023 Feast of Tabernacle 2nd woe

    2024 Feast of Tabernacle 3rd woe release of the seven vials judgment ]

    Tim Lahaye believes the 1st woe is demonic possession which shall torment those who have not the seal of God in their foreheads. I totally agree with him. And from Revelation 9:13-18,we learn that 1st woe is immediately followed by the 6th trumpet. From my post #4,I have given the likelihood of 6th trumpet sounded on and around Feast of Tabernacles by quoting Daniel 11:41-43,the three years in Isaiah 20 and how the nation/China in Isaiah 18 shall respond to the swift messenger, resulted in the breakout of world war three/6th trumpet. So the first hypothesis of 2022 Feast of Tabernacle 1st woe is checked.

    Now we come to the second hypothesis.

    2023 Feast of Tabernacle 2nd woe

    With the help of “a thought” came to me this morning,I believe the hour of the resurrection and ascension of two witnesses has been disclosed.

    Revelation 11:13 And the same hour was there a great earthquake, and the tenth part of the city fell, and in the earthquake were slain of men seven thousand: and the remnant were affrighted, and gave glory to the God of heaven.

    2nd woe is a great earthquake,happens at the same hour the two witnesses ascending to heaven. Feast of Tabernacle begins on the evening of Tishri 14, ends on the evening of Tishri 21. I think the evening begins around 6 pm Jerusalem time.

    First day 6 pm Tishri 14 to 6 pm Tishri 15

    Second day 6 pm Tishri 15 to 6 pm Tishri 16

    Third day 6 pm Tishri 16 to 6 pm Tishri 17

    Half day 6 pm Tishri 17 to 6 am Tishri 18

    The resurrection and ascension of two witnesses shall take place around 6 am Tishri 18. At the same hour earthquake shall happen with 7000 killed. The killing of two witnesses shall take place on the eve of Tishri 14. And working back 1260 days of their ministry,their appearance shall be around Passover 2020.This is also the time I believe the third temple comes to it’s completion. The two witnesses may be the two keepers of the temple. Or their job is to condemn Israeli for adhering to old temple worship,while Jesus’ blood has replaced the temple. So far I am fifty fifty on these two scenario.

    2024 Feast of Tabernacle 3rd woe 7th trumpet release of the seven vials judgment

    Concerning this timeline, I have already explained how it relates to 3430 trumpet sounded on Tishri 10, or 70 jubilees since Israeli entered the promised land,and why do heaven rejoice at the sounding of the 7th trumpet, because Israeli have passed the “very last hurdle” or “time mark” of their journey on earth. They shall spend their next Tabernacle with Jesus in millennium kingdom.

    All these come from one thought few days ago.

    [ For each Feast of Tabernacle Israeli have to go through, God shall bring forth a woe judgment.]

    It’s kind of hearing God saying “For each Tabernacle my people have to go through,I shall bring forth a woe judgment”. Then I felt a strong urge to post this message. Since then, all is good, including the thought came to me this morning.

    #130261

    2ndcoming
    Participant

    I have the destruction of third temple in the season of summer.

    [ August 17 2021 destruction of the third temple —– 1335 days —— Nisan 15 2025 ]

    Amos 8:1 Thus hath the Lord GOD shewed unto me: and behold a basket of summer fruit. 2 And he said, Amos, what seest thou? And I said, A basket of summer fruit. Then said the LORD unto me, The end is come upon my people of Israel; I will not again pass by them any more.

    God showed Amos a basket of summer fruit. God also foretold the end has come upon His people. The end of His people shall occur in the season of summer.

    Amos 8:3 And the songs of the temple shall be howlings in that day, saith the Lord GOD: there shall be many dead bodies in every place; they shall cast them forth with silence.

    Tragic thing happens inside the temple. The songs of temple shall turn into howlings in that day, and many dead bodies in every places.Some may suggest this event has already taken place in the summer of 586 BC when the second temple was destroyed.

    Amos 8:9 And it shall come to pass in that day, saith the Lord GOD, that I will cause the sun to go down at noon, and I will darken the earth in the clear day:

    The sun never went down at noon, and the earth wasn’t darken on the Tish’a B’Av in 586 BC. This event is still waiting for it’s fulfillment. But there are good news.

    Amos 8:11 Behold, the days come, saith the Lord GOD, that I will send a famine in the land, not a famine of bread, nor a thirst for water, but of hearing the words of the LORD:

    And God shall judge Beersheba afterward. A false idolatry worship system shall crumble and fall,and never rise up again.

    Amos 8:14 They that swear by the sin of Samaria, and say, Thy god, O Dan, liveth; and, The manner of Beersheba liveth; even they shall fall, and never rise up again.

    #130267

    2ndcoming
    Participant

    After the 6th trumpet sounded,John saw a mighty angel come down from heaven.

    Revelation 10:1 And I saw another mighty angel come down from heaven, clothed with a cloud: and a rainbow was upon his head, and his face was as it were the sun, and his feet as pillars of fire: 2And he had in his hand a little book open: and he set his right foot upon the sea, and his left foot on the earth, 3And cried with a loud voice, as when a lion roareth: and when he had cried, seven thunders uttered their voices. 4And when the seven thunders had uttered their voices, I was about to write: and I heard a voice from heaven saying unto me, Seal up those things which the seven thunders uttered, and write them not. 5And the angel which I saw stand upon the sea and upon the earth lifted up his hand to heaven, 6And sware by him that liveth for ever and ever, who created heaven, and the things that therein are, and the earth, and the things that therein are, and the sea, and the things which are therein, that there should be time no longer:

    6th trumpet is to bring forth 1/3 killed. This is a global warfare. But John saw the mighty angel cried (Greek word scream) twice afterward. The situation is very intense. So intense that God has brought in the seven thunders. John was forbidden to write those down. My speculation is the seven thunders have to do with keeping or teaching the saved one from the 6th trumpet judgment/the horrific global warfare. They may be given instruction to where they shall flee to avoid this global judgment.

    My next focus is verse 7.

    Revelation 10:7 But in the days of the voice of the seventh angel, when he shall begin to sound, the mystery of God should be finished, as he hath declared to his servants the prophets.

    To answer the mystery of God,I need to bring back my scenario of the seventh angel who shall sound the 7th trumpet during the Fall Feast in 2024. This shall be the 70 jubilees or 3430th trumpets from the time Israeli entered the promised land. When God does ordain a 70 jubilees and “book mark” it being the end of His people’s journey on earth, then at the time of sounding the 7th trumpet,His mystery (mystery of 70 jubilees) shall be revealed/finished.

    #130336

    2ndcoming
    Participant

    Revelation 10:7 But in the days of the voice of the seventh angel, when he shall begin to sound, the mystery of God should be finished, as he hath declared to his servants the prophets.

    To further explain the mystery of God, lets say God has written a book which is 3430 pages thick. When God flips to the very last page,that is,3430th page,heaven rejoice because there is no more pages (time) left. This is why they declare the kingdom of earth has become the kingdom of Christ. But since there are still some wrath to come,God commands the 7th angel to sound the 7th trumpet at the same hour,to bring forth the 7 vials judgment. And this is why we have heaven saying ” the nations were angry, and thy wrath is come, and the time of the dead, that they should be judged”.

    By 2024 Tishri 10,God may very well flip to the last page of His book. Will heaven rejoice by proclaiming the kingdom of earth has become kingdom of Christ? Will 7th trumpet sounded on the same day which is to bring forth the final wrath of Christ? Will God’s mystery be finally revealed and finished by then,because the book He has written only has 3430 pages long?

    We shall see. So far I am leaning toward this scenario.

    #130337

    2ndcoming
    Participant

    If God tells us the resurrection and ascension of two witnesses shall take place in the middle of Feast of Tabernacles, what number can we come up with?

    Three days? Nope. Four days? Nope.

    The correct answer should be three days and an half,or simply 3.5 days. I believe this is the exact language God used in Revelation 11:11, by pointing the resurrection and ascension of two witnesses to a future Feast of Tabernacles. Without “the thought” came to me three days ago,I could never solve this puzzle.

    Anyway, subtracting 1260 days from Feast of Tabernacles,we always come to the time on and around Passover. It is the Jew’s desire that their Elijah shall come on a future Passover. Well, may be God has granted their wish already.

    #130342

    2ndcoming
    Participant

    Revelation 15:1 And I saw another sign in heaven, great and marvellous, seven angels having the seven last plagues; for in them is filled up the wrath of God.

    Concerning the sign or the timing of the event in Revelation 15:1-8,including song of Moses and song of the Lamb,and the temple of the tabernacle in heaven is opened, it should take place at the same time the 7th trumpet is sounded,very likely on Tishri 10 2024.

    2 And I saw as it were a sea of glass mingled with fire: and them that had gotten the victory over the beast, and over his image, and over his mark, and over the number of his name, stand on the sea of glass, having the harps of God.

    3 And they sing the song of Moses the servant of God, and the song of the Lamb, saying, Great and marvellous are thy works, Lord God Almighty; just and true are thy ways, thou King of saints.

    4 Who shall not fear thee, O Lord, and glorify thy name? for thou only art holy: for all nations shall come and worship before thee; for thy judgments are made manifest.

    5 And after that I looked, and, behold, the temple of the tabernacle of the testimony in heaven was opened: 6 And the seven angels came out of the temple, having the seven plagues, clothed in pure and white linen, and having their breasts girded with golden girdles. 7 And one of the four beasts gave unto the seven angels seven golden vials full of the wrath of God, who liveth for ever and ever. 8 And the temple was filled with smoke from the glory of God, and from his power; and no man was able to enter into the temple, till the seven plagues of the seven angels were fulfilled.

    #130366

    2ndcoming
    Participant

    Revelation 15:5 And after that I looked, and, behold, the temple of the tabernacle of the testimony in heaven was opened:

    From my previous post,I have placed the temple of the tabernacle in heaven being opened on Tishri 10 2024. Tishri 10 is also known as Yom Kippur. According to the Torah, Yom Kippur is their holiest day. And their Torah also states that Yom Kippur was the only time when the High Priest could enter the Holy of Holies,and call upon the name of Yahweh to offer blood sacrifice.

    During the whole book of Revelation,this is the only place we see the temple of the tabernacle is opened. When I place this event on a future Yom Kippur,it does resonate their High Priest entering the Holy and Holies. But since I am not a Torah expert, I shall let those expert to chew on this scenario.

    #130413

    2ndcoming
    Participant

    This is what I have written in my second post.

    [ From early 2019 to the end of that year, the war between King of the North (AC) and the King of the South (Arab league led by Saudi) shall break out (Daniel 11:25-26) ]

    When I suggest the war between King of the North/AC and King of the South can only last one year, I do have scripture to support it.

    A Prophecy against Arabia

    Isaiah 21:13 The burden upon Arabia. In the forest in Arabia shall ye lodge, O ye travelling companies of Dedanim.

    14 The inhabitants of the land of Tema brought water to him that was thirsty, they prevented with their bread him that fled.

    15 For they fled from the swords, from the drawn sword, and from the bent bow, and from the grievousness of war.

    16 For thus hath the Lord said unto me, Within a year, according to the years of an hireling, and all the glory of Kedar shall fail: 17 And the residue of the number of archers, the mighty men of the children of Kedar, shall be diminished: for the LORD God of Israel hath spoken it.

    God has foretold that within a year,according to the years of an hireling,and all of the glory Kedar shall fail. Kedar is situated in the northwest of Saudi peninsula.

    What happens after this battle?

    Daniel 11:28 Then shall he return into his land with great riches; and his heart shall be against the holy covenant; and he shall do exploits, and return to his own land.

    There are two movement of King of the North mentioned here. The first is he shall return into his land. According to Daniel 9:26 “the people of the prince that shall come”,his homeland is Rome. His first return is Rome which shall take place in early 2020.

    His second return is more interesting. After his first return to Rome,his heart shall be against the holy covenant. What has caused his heart against the covenant is unknown at this moment. I am still chewing on this. But his next move represented by “return to his own land” is not surprising at all because God has foretold his move in Zechariah 5:5-11.

    From Zechariah 5:5-11,we learn that there will be a woman moving to the land of Shinar. God calls this woman wickedness. Through out the bible,God uses the term woman to denote her faithfulness such as bride of Christ. A wicked woman is an unfaithful/apostate church. Also, Shinar is situated in the ancient Babel which is the origin of sorcery,witchcraft,and occult. When king of the North/AC makes his move to Shinar, God sees him moving back to “his own land”. Satan has once organized a “global rebellion” against God in the land of Babel. Satan shall organize a second global attempt from the same place against God,by having an apostate church to go back to Babel. God has already foreseen this event by nick naming his move to “his own land”.

    From my timeline,I shall place this movement “return to his own land” sometime in 2020,possibly in summer,before the dedication of third temple on Feast of Tabernacle in 2020.

    #130469

    2ndcoming
    Participant

    As this illustration has pointed out,all the seals,trumpets,and vials judgment are in chronological order. As a matter of fact,the entire Book of Revelation is in chronological order,with some insertions to explain the events. Examples are chapter 12,13,14,17,18.

    Chapter 12 is war in heaven,resulted in Satan being cast down to earth and persecutes the woman for time,times,and half time. Chapter 13 is the beast who shall blasphemy God for 42 months. It shall take place during the second half of tribulation. Chapter 14 is the vision John saw in heaven,the Lamb with 144000 standing on mount Sion,followed by three angels spreading gospel,and the harvest of the earth from verse 14 to 16,and the harvest of Israel from verse 17 to 20. All these events shall also take place during the second half of tribulation. Chapter 17 and 18 is God’s ordained judgment on the whore,and the city Babylon. It shall take place toward the end of tribulation.

    Chapter 19 is the marriage supper of the Lamb. It shall take place on a future Passover when it is Jesus’ promise to finish the Passover seder,with Jesus returning on the following day,to end the 7 years tribulation.

    So far I have demonstrated where the seals,trumpets,and vials are in relation to the 7 years tribulation using my timeline. There are some gains after I started this thread,including the mystery of three days and an half. I have also combined the events from Daniel 11:21-45 in this timeline. I used to have a thread titled “The rise and fall of Anti Christ” based on Daniel 11:21-45.

    All is good. Glory to our Lord Jesus forever and forever! He is Alpha and Omega,the beginning and the ending, the author of Book of Revelation. Hallelujah!

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    2ndcoming
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    Now I end this thread with a song by Paul Wilbur,I Enter The Holy of Holies, For Your name Is Holy.

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    Mike Mc
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    For illustration purposes, I use my speculative timeline of Pentecost 2018 to Nisan 15 2025.

    I sure Hope we don’t have to wait another year, But it is Possible… This will be the most Devastating time in all of Human History… The Election of President Trump was a Breaking point into the NWO, but this delay is only for a short little bit for others to come to Christ before all this Begins… As Christ In Prophecy Wrote… It’s Time to Repent and come to Christ.. A Time for Reflection… The History of the Jewish People is written in History for all to see, And God was not Joking around back then on what He did to them for not Listening and He’s Not going to Joking around in the Tribulation Period…

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    The prophet Nahum understood the true nature of God. He wrote that “The Lord is good, a stronghold in the day of trouble, and He knows those who take refuge in Him” (Nahum 1:7). That is the love and mercy of God. But the same prophet wrote (Nahum 1:2-3):

    “A jealous and avenging God is the Lord;
    The Lord is avenging and wrathful.
    The Lord takes vengeance on His adversaries,
    And He reserves wrath for His enemies.
    The Lord is slow to anger and great in power,
    And the Lord will by no means leave the guilty unpunished.”

    Truly, the Lord is “slow to anger.” He allows the iniquities of Mankind to accumulate over long periods of time because He doesn’t wish that any should perish (2 Peter 3:9). His desire, instead, is that all should come to repentance. But there is always a day of reckoning, just as there was in the days of Noah, and such a day has been set for this age. Paul referred to it in his sermon in Athens when he said, “He [God] has fixed a day in which He will judge the world in righteousness” (Acts 17:31).

    A second reason for the Tribulation is to bring people to salvation. Amazingly, even when God pours out His wrath, His fundamental purpose is not to destroy but to save. Isaiah 26:9 explains it this way: “When the earth experiences Your judgments, the inhabitants of the world learn righteousness.”

    The brutal fact is that God often has to hit us over the head with a two-by-four in order to get our attention and motivate us to repentance. The equally brutal fact is that most people respond to such discipline by either cursing God or continuing to ignore Him (Revelation 9:20-21). But some people always respond in humility and are saved. As Billy Graham has put it: “The same sun that melts the butter, hardens the clay.”

    When God’s wrath is poured out during the Tribulation, some hearts will be melted, but most will be hardened, illustrating once again that nothing is as “deceitful” and “desperately sick” as the heart of Man (Jeremiah 17:9).

    Man is frivolous about sin. God is serious. The Tribulation will be a graphic expression of how serious God is about Mankind’s rebellion against Him.

    The Great Tribulation

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