Have You Ever Experienced What I Call "Rapture Schizophrenia"?

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    Watchman35
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    So I had one of those days that I periodically experience what I will refer to as “rapture schizophrenia”. You know, the kind of day that starts out with seemingly lofty contemplation of topics like the geo-political alignment of the Ezekiel 38 coalition or the timing of the final Jubilee, but then is quickly hijacked by a combination of the mundane responsibilities of life, the tyranny of the urgent at work, and the “fellowship” of people who act like life is just going to continue on like it is now forever, such that the collective impact of these three factors leaves you wondering in your natural mind if those people might be right. I don’t really believe that in my spirit, and thus the schizophrenic part of “rapture schizophrenia”.

    Then, as I walked in the door from work, I was greeted by a ripped-open package of uncooked spaghetti that one of our dogs had helped herself to and strewn across the living room floor while no one was home. (Good news: it was gluten free, so no risk of celiac reaction for our behavior-challenged golden doodle. Although actually, to the best of my knowledge, my dog is not gluten sensitive. But I digress.) As I sat on the living room floor, still in my business casual work clothes, and methodically picked up as many broken noodles from the carpet as I could pull out of the thankfully short-shagged rug, I found myself wondering if life was just going to continue like this forever. I had to remind myself of the unprecedented convergence of biblical signs taking place today, like Israel approaching 70 years back in the land or technology that now exists to support a one-world cashless society driven by computer chips in people’s hands or foreheads, or the United Nations’ blueprint for a new world order, or….on and on.

    Then, following that recitation in my mind, I find myself confronted with another mundane decision. Do I throw the spaghetti out, or, in the name of good stewardship, cook what is salvageable. After all, a large number of the noodles were fully intact and, as best as I can figure, there’s probably nothing going on that 9-11 minutes of boiling water can’t fix. (Don’t worry, I would never serve such a thing to you if you ever just happen to stop by for dinner.) Anyway, now that I have changed my dinner plans, I am jumping on to RITAN to author serious posts about the return of the Bridegroom for His Bride, us. And now perhaps you understand why I characterize today as a bit of “rapture schizophrenia”. Caught between two worlds. Maranatha, Lord Jesus.

    John 14:1-3 “Let not your heart be troubled; you believe in God, believe also in Me. In My Father’s house are many mansions; if it were not so, I would have told you. I go to prepare a place for you. And if I go and prepare a place for you, I will come again and receive you to Myself; that where I am, there you may be also."

    #108976
    David R
    David R
    Moderator

    Ain’t nothin’ the rapture wouldn’t cure.

    My soul yearns, even faints, for the courts of the Lord;
    my heart and my flesh cry out for the living God. Psalm 84:2


    #108977
    Tender Reed
    Tender Reed
    Participant

    Ditto and Amen, bro. Living in two worlds is not even fun. Previous generations were merely asked to occupy. But this last generation must do more and endure more!!

    Stop the world, I wanna get off.

    TR


    #108983
    rbmomof4
    rbmomof4
    Participant

    TR, I agree…One foot in the grave and the other on..what???…Rapture Alert?? I feel conflicted constantly…this is living two lives…and it’s harder and harder to live in this world where we are unwanted and considered the enemy because we’re Christians. But Jesus warned of this and I’m reminded what He said about the world hating Him before it hated me. This is our cross to bear…not for salvation of our souls but for salvation to live from day to day…living out our faith and being castigated because of it.

    [For we know that all things work together for those who love God, for those who are called according to His purpose. Romans 8:28]


    #108985
    churchgal
    churchgal
    Participant

    Agree so much!! One of the reasons that we have this schizophrenia is that we can’t share our watch and our love for watching for His coming even with those physically closest to us and who claim to share our faith!! I am so grateful for this site, to be able to come here and see that you all think about all of the happenings in the world, and how they relate to prophecy and the coming of our Lord. Sometimes I think that is how we see everything, I know it is that way for me. I often think how cool it would be if we could congregate in person weekly and come through the door and run up to each other and say “Did you see this or hear that???” and get to share in the excitement face to face instead of just :yahoo: to :yahoo: …but yet as I said I am so grateful to have this site, the awesome mods and all of you!! Can’t wait to meet in the RITAN coffee house one day after we make that first and most important meeting with the One we love, who loved us first. I’m ready-

    "and all creation sing with me now, lift up your voice and lay your burdens down...let all of creation sing with me now fill up the heavens let HIs glory resound, and every knee will bow, oh in every tongue praise the Father, praise the Son and the Spirit in One!!"

    #108986

    Anonymous

    As usual another perfectly timed post for me! Because of the apostasy I now consider this site as my “church.” I once more tried for fellowship in a local congregation and again was shunned….even before getting acquainted with anyone. Amazing! I’m chalking it all up to a spiritual thing…that unknowingly, the members of these Christian Country Clubs sense I’m one of HIS. ‘Same thing has happened to my daughter at different “Clubs.” I so long for the fellowship at the Banquet Dinner!!! MARANATHA!

    #108995
    gobyebye
    gobyebye
    Participant

    As usual another perfectly timed post for me! Because of the apostasy I now consider this site as my “church.” I once more tried for fellowship in a local congregation and again was shunned….even before getting acquainted with anyone. Amazing! I’m chalking it all up to a spiritual thing…that unknowingly, the members of these Christian Country Clubs sense I’m one of HIS. ‘Same thing has happened to my daughter at different “Clubs.” I so long for the fellowship at the Banquet Dinner!!! MARANATHA!

    I’d say I’m rapture cranky!
    I’d also say pick your clubs carefully.
    Last night was the start up of Wednesday evening activities at my works church. I had a nice dinner and hung around till worship after classes. But worship service had been changed this year to a format that is basically just another glorified class. I thought to myself, these people worship the Lord with their words but their hearts are far from Him!
    Come quickly , Lord Jesus!

    #109006

    Anonymous

    At least you’re getting some Bible. I’m talking about the self-esteem, psychology, good works, stuff with no Cross, no Lord Jesus and rock music. Here were all these people and I thought, I’ve come for bread and have been given a stone. ‘Took me three days to calm down over it. I just want to go Home—I figure I’ll see the Rapture from one angle or another…doesn’t matter anymore if I come with Him or He comes for me. MARANATHA!
    (I’m supposed to be in what was known as a solid Christian county in Africa! HA!)

    #109061
    rbmomof4
    rbmomof4
    Participant

    People are wanting to be entertained, like a one of those week-long conferences where you get some teaching, and then the bands play music, then a special speaker, then the band plays more music, ad infinitum. I agree…I don’t want a psychology/counseling session; I just want to hear the Word and learn the Word.

    [For we know that all things work together for those who love God, for those who are called according to His purpose. Romans 8:28]


    #109065

    Leroy
    Participant

    As usual another perfectly timed post for me! Because of the apostasy I now consider this site as my “church.” I once more tried for fellowship in a local congregation and again was shunned….even before getting acquainted with anyone. Amazing! I’m chalking it all up to a spiritual thing…that unknowingly, the members of these Christian Country Clubs sense I’m one of HIS. ‘Same thing has happened to my daughter at different “Clubs.” I so long for the fellowship at the Banquet Dinner!!! MARANATHA!

    I’d say I’m rapture cranky!
    I’d also say pick your clubs carefully.
    Last night was the start up of Wednesday evening activities at my works church. I had a nice dinner and hung around till worship after classes. But worship service had been changed this year to a format that is basically just another glorified class. I thought to myself, these people worship the Lord with their words but their hearts are far from Him!
    Come quickly , Lord Jesus!

    ..
    Wow thats interesting. Ive been shunned a lot over the years just for existing, let alone stepping into a “church”.

    What is a works church? No need to answer. Its just a retorical question, ive got a real good imagination on whats referred to here so no answer required. Oh did I say required, me bad im thinking in “religion terms” and words of all sorts of man centered requirements to appease an angry god made in mans likeness and image.

    Well ok back to our regularly scheduled programming of awaiting a far better savior and god who already paid the redemption for us price in full.

    come lord jesus we await you.

    #109067

    Leroy
    Participant

    As far as the rapture schizophrenia. Yep too often been going through that one.

    #109086
    Texas Sue
    Texas Sue
    Participant

    Comments above about living in two worlds is so completely accurate – two kingdoms – the kingdom of Jesus Christ and the kingdom of the enemy. Even though Jesus defeated satan at the cross the devil still claims “squatter’s rights”. He hangs on to this earth still believing that he will overthrow God and claim the heavenly throne and ALL kingdoms. He is brain-damaged from Jesus stomping on his head at the resurrection.

    My family grew up in the Baptist church which is a great denomination for teaching scripture and evangelizing (or at least it used to be) but stops short of the power of the Holy Spirit. Once saved, like a newborn babe, you are left to fend for yourself with no knowledge of spiritual warfare. After many years of learning things the hard way, I am thankful for the Holy Spirit Who alone has brought me along to knowledge of how to not only live in this world but overcome the evil one.

    It has occurred to me that we are born into enemy territory. Those who find God do so by pushing through every obstacle and tactic the enemy can throw at us. We cling to and follow Jesus through a minefield loaded path and arrive at home by the Grace and covering of the Lord Jesus. I used to not like those terms of fighting, warfare, strategy, etc., but now that I have firmly faced reality I know it is true. We are born into enemy territory, we are born to be warriors. We not only fight our own battles to overcome, but to get our loved ones and others to see the truth as well. My schizophrenia was in this area of wanting to believe the world was benign and knowing at the same time it is malignant.

    Here is the great promise I stand on from from Isaiah 25:

    7 And he will destroy in this mountain
    the face of the covering cast over all people,
    and the Vail that is spread over all nations.
    8 He will swallow up death in victory;
    and the Lord God will wipe away tears from off all faces;
    and the rebuke of his people shall he take away from off all the earth:
    for the Lord hath spoken it.
    9 And it shall be said in that day
    Lo, this is our God;
    we have waited for him, and he will save us:
    this is the Lord;
    we have waited for him,
    we will be glad and rejoice in his salvation.


    For I know the plans I have for you, plans for good and not for evil, to give you a future and a hope. Jeremiah 29:11

    #112507

    Watchman35
    Participant

    Giving this thread a bump. Feeling the symptoms of rapture schizophrenia big-time today. While on the one hand, it feels like in my spirit the Middle East is about to explode into WWIII at any moment as somebody gets a hook in their jaw, at the same time I decide to take a different way home from work so I can pick up a box of my wife’s favorite “health bars” (not at all sure some of those “health bars” are really all that healthy for you, but I digress). On the one hand, I am contemplating a news story I heard about RFID chips being the mark of the beast, while I retrieve the electric bill out of the mail box. On the one hand, I am pondering the significance of the Revelation 12 sign in the heavens next Feast of Trumpets, even as I begin to consider what needs to be on the grocery list for this weekend. We are talking intense rapture schizophrenia. Can anyone relate?

    John 14:1-3 “Let not your heart be troubled; you believe in God, believe also in Me. In My Father’s house are many mansions; if it were not so, I would have told you. I go to prepare a place for you. And if I go and prepare a place for you, I will come again and receive you to Myself; that where I am, there you may be also."

    #112522
    Tender Reed
    Tender Reed
    Participant

    We are all totally at God’s mercy regarding the timing of the Rapture. Given all the models, parables and prophetic interpretations it all remains inconclusive and ambiguous! Perhaps this also is intended that we may trust and have faith in the Lord.

    To our chagrin, we are still waiting upon the Lord, to our glory, we are still waiting upon the Lord!

    To this end, my hope is that the “spirit of prophecy”/Jesus, will indeed reveal the object of our desire. The timing of our evacuation!

    Love & blessings…Tender Reed


    #112525
    Yohanan
    Yohanan
    Moderator

    So I had one of those days that I periodically experience what I will refer to as “rapture schizophrenia”. You know, the kind of day that starts out with seemingly lofty contemplation of topics like the geo-political alignment of the Ezekiel 38 coalition or the timing of the final Jubilee, but then is quickly hijacked by a combination of the mundane responsibilities of life, the tyranny of the urgent at work, and the “fellowship” of people who act like life is just going to continue on like it is now forever, such that the collective impact of these three factors leaves you wondering in your natural mind if those people might be right. I don’t really believe that in my spirit, and thus the schizophrenic part of “rapture schizophrenia”.

    Then, as I walked in the door from work, I was greeted by a ripped-open package of uncooked spaghetti that one of our dogs had helped herself to and strewn across the living room floor while no one was home. (Good news: it was gluten free, so no risk of celiac reaction for our behavior-challenged golden doodle. Although actually, to the best of my knowledge, my dog is not gluten sensitive. But I digress.) As I sat on the living room floor, still in my business casual work clothes, and methodically picked up as many broken noodles from the carpet as I could pull out of the thankfully short-shagged rug, I found myself wondering if life was just going to continue like this forever. I had to remind myself of the unprecedented convergence of biblical signs taking place today, like Israel approaching 70 years back in the land or technology that now exists to support a one-world cashless society driven by computer chips in people’s hands or foreheads, or the United Nations’ blueprint for a new world order, or….on and on.

    Then, following that recitation in my mind, I find myself confronted with another mundane decision. Do I throw the spaghetti out, or, in the name of good stewardship, cook what is salvageable. After all, a large number of the noodles were fully intact and, as best as I can figure, there’s probably nothing going on that 9-11 minutes of boiling water can’t fix. (Don’t worry, I would never serve such a thing to you if you ever just happen to stop by for dinner.) Anyway, now that I have changed my dinner plans, I am jumping on to RITAN to author serious posts about the return of the Bridegroom for His Bride, us. And now perhaps you understand why I characterize today as a bit of “rapture schizophrenia”. Caught between two worlds. Maranatha, Lord Jesus.

    I am laughing so hard at this that my sides ache! This is seriously funny! You really did me in and I love it. Thank you, Watchman35!

    Baruch shem kivod leolam va’ed. Barukh attah adonai melekh m’hulal batishbachot. (Blessed be His glorious majesty forever and ever. Blessed are You, Lord
    a King to be praised in adoration.)



    #112553

    Watchman35
    Participant

    Yohanan wrote:
    I am laughing so hard at this that my sides ache! This is seriously funny! You really did me in and I love it. Thank you, Watchman35!

    Glad to be able to provide some comic relief in the midst of the increasingly sober goings on around us. With increased frequency, I need a reality check in reminding myself that the Lord is in control, even in the midst of the seemingly chaotic circumstances raging around us. Maranatha, Lord Jesus.

    John 14:1-3 “Let not your heart be troubled; you believe in God, believe also in Me. In My Father’s house are many mansions; if it were not so, I would have told you. I go to prepare a place for you. And if I go and prepare a place for you, I will come again and receive you to Myself; that where I am, there you may be also."

    #112592
    Tender Reed
    Tender Reed
    Participant

    More like a monthly cycle, isn’t it!

    TR


    #112600
    Donna
    Donna
    Participant

    yeah, I know, huh ~~ . . tra la la la la ~ goes the world with their one track mind ~

    and so I am imagining when our Lord entered earth with His Pure mind living in the midst of this world’s hornet’s nest and its opposition (against Him) so radically ~~~ oh, how wise He was throughout ~~

    reminds me when Adam and Eve knew only of earth’s Paradise, not knowing both evil and good ~~ . . and yet we can conclude, can’t we, it is because of our ‘schizophrenic’ experience that (through God’s wisdom) has caused our desire even more intense for our Cherished Lord ~

    eyes closed oh, yes! our desire is real!! oh, to be in His full Presence ~ ~ where He is ~~ where there is Pure Light and Love knowing Jesus IS Heaven! ~~ no mocking and rejecting our Majestic God there ~~~ we do take it personally this world not our home , . Jesus reminding us how MUCH He takes us Personally ~~

    It’s like J.D. Faraq said the other day: “If I didn’t know and BELIEVE the Blessed Hope was sure, I’d go crazy” . . didn’t Paul say, too that if the gospel wasn’t true, we’d be the most pitied . . .

    get ready you darlin’ RITA watchers, the Banquet table is set in Heaven (envisioning gorgeous roses hanging through the beautiful lattice roof, ~~ oooooooh, what bliss when we’re all finally together smiling and enjoying our Lord sitting at the head of the Table smiling with us ~~

    Feeling so ready to enter Christ’s wedding chambers ~


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