End Times Timeline, Summer Fruit, Psalm 83/Isaiah 17 & Pretrib Rapture

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  • #129588
    Heather R
    Heather R
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    Hi all,

    This thread just serves to consolidate what I’ve written so far into one post.

    The End Times Timeline

    Part One – The Battle of Gog and Magog
    Part Two – The Daniel 9:27 Covenant
    Part Three – The Feasts of the Lord
    Part Four – The Day of the Lord
    Part Five – The Final Jubilee Year

    The final jubilee year is Biblically calculable and is tied to the Second Coming and restoration of Israel’s land and possessions and her deliverance from captivity.

    https://www.academia.edu/30488722/The_End_Times_Timeline_-_A_Journey_through_the_End_of_Days_-_Parts_1-_most_of_4

    https://www.academia.edu/30510824/The_End_Times_Timeline_-_The_rest_of_Part_Four

    https://www.academia.edu/30579059/The_End_Times_Timeline_-_Part_Five_-_The_Final_Jubilee_Year

    The Judgment of the Summer Fruit

    Far less popular, this one goes through how the feasts have already been fulfilled in the person of Jesus Christ, not by what He did but by who He was (chapters 1-9). It also explains the “times and seasons” and the “day and hour” (chapters 10-13). Then, it goes into the time of year the Bible seems to give us for the Second Coming… and it’s not the fall (14-the end).

    https://www.academia.edu/31013965/The_Judgment_of_the_Summer_Fruits_-_Chapters_1-3

    https://www.academia.edu/31053501/The_Judgment_of_the_Summer_Fruits_-_Chapters_4-9

    https://www.academia.edu/31088008/The_Judgment_of_the_Summer_Fruits_-_Chapters_10-13

    https://www.academia.edu/31158218/The_Judgment_of_the_Summer_Fruit_-_Chapters_14_-_the_end

    As much as people like the fall, if I were to suggest reading any of my work, The Judgment of the Summer Fruit is the one I’d suggest.

    Psalm 83 and Isaiah 17

    This is pretty short comparatively and goes through the timing the Bible gives for the conclusion of Psalm 83. It’s not a conflict of it’s own, but a prayer to end the brother vs. brother hatred which originated with Shem and Ham, continued through Abraham and Lot, Isaac and Ishmael, and Jacob and Esau. It also includes the potential timing for the destruction of Damascus. Both of these, as far as I can tell, are linked to the Second Coming.

    https://www.academia.edu/31519894/The_Timing_of_Psalm_83_and_Isaiah_17

    The purpose of all this writing was to break down barriers and preconceived notions. We have funny ideas about what we can or cannot know or what the Bible is or isn’t going to tell us. We also have a lot of preconceived ideas about the timing of the end times events. I don’t know where or how everything got as twisted up as it did, and I’m also not saying I got it all right, but nothing is being hidden from us if we just search it out. It’s all there and there is probably a ton more than I found. I don’t think I actually wrote about anything that will occur pre-rapture. In fact, most of this centers on the timing of the Second Coming. Why? Because that’s the end… If you know the timing of the end, and you know how long the interim period is (Daniel’s 70th Week), then you’ve got a pretty good idea about the timing of the rapture. But If you just try to plot the timing of the rapture irrespective of the timing of the end, it often loses a lot in translation. I started from the end and worked backward. But next event on the prophetic calendar is the rapture. That’s why…

    I wrote this too —> Truth: In Defense of the Pre-Trib Rapture

    https://www.academia.edu/32045461/TRUTH_IN_DEFENSE_OF_THE_PRE-TRIB_RAPTURE

    All my work is available in print and ebook, too. I’d rather people take advantage of the free options, but I know that’s not always possible. Thus, I tried to make a format for anyone and everyone. Just search my name or the book title on Amazon, and it’ll come up.

    Romans1:16 For I am not ashamed of the gospel of Christ: for it is the power of God unto salvation to every one that believeth; to the Jew first, and also to the Greek. 17 For therein is the righteousness of God revealed from faith to faith: as it is written, The just shall live by faith.
    #129589
    Savedat33
    Savedat33
    Participant

    Awesome! Thanks so much for aggregating this and also for your work! :yes: :good:

    #129590
    Heather R
    Heather R
    Participant

    You’re welcome. Kind of not sure why I didn’t do it before LOL

    Romans1:16 For I am not ashamed of the gospel of Christ: for it is the power of God unto salvation to every one that believeth; to the Jew first, and also to the Greek. 17 For therein is the righteousness of God revealed from faith to faith: as it is written, The just shall live by faith.
    #129728
    Regina
    Regina
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    hi Heather, this question is about figuring out years.
    Today I was counting because of another post, about the 6000 years, so I was thinking about the number of years since Israel became a nation May 1948.
    Then I looked again at your work about the final jubilee–which came to 2023-2024.

    If just counting the years as I did for the post on the forum, then 2017 is the 70th year.
    This would have the next seven years 2018-2024.
    But— counting years comes out different ways depending on how its done.
    When I made another chart to see how it turns out if counting a whole year beginning from 1948-49, then the 70th year is 2017-2018, and adding 7 years to that comes to 2024-2025.
    I know that God knows what He is doing! He doesn’t get fouled up on counting so this is bothering me because how you figured out what year Israel entered the promised land, and then going forward makes sense matching the text dates given in the bible.
    So, I’m wondering about this- is the time Israel became a nation not a starting point for final years, or perhaps its a starting point that does not begin a countdown of 70years?
    The final jubilee the way you came up with the dating is 2023-24, a year difference.
    So much emphasis has been put on numbers-70’s, 7’s, its confusing to me when the numbers don’t seem to work out, to match.
    Here’s the counts – there isn’t a face below for banging head


    Judah, you are he whom your brothers shall praise: your hand shall be in the neck of your enemies; your father's children shall bow down before you. Judah is a lion's whelp: from the prey, my son, you are gone up: he stooped down, he couched as a lion, and as an old lion; who shall rouse him up? The scepter shall not depart from Judah, nor a lawgiver from between his feet, until Shiloh come; and to him shall the gathering of the people be. Gen 49

    #129730

    Watchman35
    Participant

    When I made another chart to see how it turns out if counting a whole year beginning from 1948-49, then the 70th year is 2017-2018, and adding 7 years to that comes to 2024-2025.

    Just chiming in with my thoughts… Whether you start counting from 11/29/47 or 5/14/48, to me the first year would be the 1947-48 year, not 48-49. That puts you back to 2023-2024. IMHO. We’ll see what Heather has to say. :Hi:

    John 14:1-3 “Let not your heart be troubled; you believe in God, believe also in Me. In My Father’s house are many mansions; if it were not so, I would have told you. I go to prepare a place for you. And if I go and prepare a place for you, I will come again and receive you to Myself; that where I am, there you may be also."

    #129731
    Regina
    Regina
    Participant

    God bless you watchman!

    Judah, you are he whom your brothers shall praise: your hand shall be in the neck of your enemies; your father's children shall bow down before you. Judah is a lion's whelp: from the prey, my son, you are gone up: he stooped down, he couched as a lion, and as an old lion; who shall rouse him up? The scepter shall not depart from Judah, nor a lawgiver from between his feet, until Shiloh come; and to him shall the gathering of the people be. Gen 49

    #129735
    Regina
    Regina
    Participant

    here’s as Watchman said, going by the Hebrew year 1947-48 would be 5708, when Israel became a nation it was 5708

    Judah, you are he whom your brothers shall praise: your hand shall be in the neck of your enemies; your father's children shall bow down before you. Judah is a lion's whelp: from the prey, my son, you are gone up: he stooped down, he couched as a lion, and as an old lion; who shall rouse him up? The scepter shall not depart from Judah, nor a lawgiver from between his feet, until Shiloh come; and to him shall the gathering of the people be. Gen 49

    #129737
    Heather R
    Heather R
    Participant

    Yes, that’s exactly it. When you use Hebrew years, it’s much easier to keep it straight.

    Romans1:16 For I am not ashamed of the gospel of Christ: for it is the power of God unto salvation to every one that believeth; to the Jew first, and also to the Greek. 17 For therein is the righteousness of God revealed from faith to faith: as it is written, The just shall live by faith.
    #129740
    Regina
    Regina
    Participant

    using Hebrew year 1947-1948 as the start

    Judah, you are he whom your brothers shall praise: your hand shall be in the neck of your enemies; your father's children shall bow down before you. Judah is a lion's whelp: from the prey, my son, you are gone up: he stooped down, he couched as a lion, and as an old lion; who shall rouse him up? The scepter shall not depart from Judah, nor a lawgiver from between his feet, until Shiloh come; and to him shall the gathering of the people be. Gen 49

    #129741
    Heather R
    Heather R
    Participant

    That’s not exactly how I counted. I didn’t start from 1947-48. I started with the jubilee years, then worked backward. The jubilee isn’t the 7th-7. It’s the first year of the next cycle of 7. While it’s cool that it works out to be 70 years from 47-48, it seems to be affecting people’s endpoints. An assumption is being made if the rapture happens in one year, the next year must be the start of the Week. Why can’t they both be in the same year? And are we using spring-spring calendar dates, or fall-fall? Are we using Hebrew calendar or Gregorian? 365, 354 or 360 day years?

    All the charts I used are in the jubilee paper.

    Romans1:16 For I am not ashamed of the gospel of Christ: for it is the power of God unto salvation to every one that believeth; to the Jew first, and also to the Greek. 17 For therein is the righteousness of God revealed from faith to faith: as it is written, The just shall live by faith.
    #129743
    Regina
    Regina
    Participant

    i see what you are saying, the year 1947-48 wasn’t the first year in a cycle of 7’s that leads to the jubilee.
    the charts you made identify the “7’s” and show 2023-24, being a jubilee year, is the 50th year, not the 49th.
    the chart I did was counting to 70 years from the founding of Israel in May 1948, but does not show the jubilee pattern. it does work out that the Hebrew year 1947-1948 (5708) adding 70 years comes to 2023-2024.
    hopefully the rapture is this spring. I don’t want to confuse the issue, so I’ll take down the chart

    Judah, you are he whom your brothers shall praise: your hand shall be in the neck of your enemies; your father's children shall bow down before you. Judah is a lion's whelp: from the prey, my son, you are gone up: he stooped down, he couched as a lion, and as an old lion; who shall rouse him up? The scepter shall not depart from Judah, nor a lawgiver from between his feet, until Shiloh come; and to him shall the gathering of the people be. Gen 49

    #129744
    Heather R
    Heather R
    Participant

    No, that’s fine. Please leave it. I just have a tendency to look at things differently since I’m starting from the end, not the beginning. 1947-48 is the beginning. We wind up around the same place, so it’s all good.

    Romans1:16 For I am not ashamed of the gospel of Christ: for it is the power of God unto salvation to every one that believeth; to the Jew first, and also to the Greek. 17 For therein is the righteousness of God revealed from faith to faith: as it is written, The just shall live by faith.
    #129753
    Regina
    Regina
    Participant

    staring at the chart—–the 70th year from Israel’s founding in 5708 (1947-1948) comes to this year 5777 (2016-2017). this is as what you were saying, Heather, that the rapture could happen in the same year the 70th week of Daniel begins. then the years would work out as the final seven beginning this year
    1-2016-2017 spring (Nisan 5777) or later in 2017 spring
    2-2017-2018
    3-2018-2019
    4-2019-2020
    5-2020-2021
    6-2021-2022
    7-2022-2023

    then 2023-2024 spring (5784) would be the first year of the next 7, a 50th year Jubilee, as you were writing about the Lord returning on a Jubilee, beginning the millennium of the Lord’s rule.

    Judah, you are he whom your brothers shall praise: your hand shall be in the neck of your enemies; your father's children shall bow down before you. Judah is a lion's whelp: from the prey, my son, you are gone up: he stooped down, he couched as a lion, and as an old lion; who shall rouse him up? The scepter shall not depart from Judah, nor a lawgiver from between his feet, until Shiloh come; and to him shall the gathering of the people be. Gen 49

    #129754
    Heather R
    Heather R
    Participant

    Indeed. On a fall-fall calendar, that’s how it would look.

    If we go by spiritual year, it’d look like this:

    Nisan – Nisan

    2017-18 (start of the Week sometime after Nisan 1) Nisan 1 is 4 days from now
    2018-19
    2019-20
    2020-21 (fall/winter 2020 AoD)
    2021-22
    2022-23
    2023-24
    2024-25 (Starts on Nisan 1 and potentially sees a Second Coming between Nisan 1 – 15)

    I hesitate to post this, because I don’t want people attributing my statements to a fall second coming or that I’m now saying I think the Second Coming will be in 5785 (fall-fall Hebrew year 2024-25). I’m not saying that at all. Spring 2024 is still 5784 regardless of counting fall-fall or spring-spring.

    Romans1:16 For I am not ashamed of the gospel of Christ: for it is the power of God unto salvation to every one that believeth; to the Jew first, and also to the Greek. 17 For therein is the righteousness of God revealed from faith to faith: as it is written, The just shall live by faith.
    #129861
    Heather R
    Heather R
    Participant

    updated the main post with the link to the newest paper.

    Romans1:16 For I am not ashamed of the gospel of Christ: for it is the power of God unto salvation to every one that believeth; to the Jew first, and also to the Greek. 17 For therein is the righteousness of God revealed from faith to faith: as it is written, The just shall live by faith.
    #129883
    TakeMeHome
    TakeMeHome
    Participant

    Please know how much I appreciate your work, Heather.

    This math gives me head spins! Iwould never figure this out. :scratch:

    #129953
    Heather R
    Heather R
    Participant

    In case anyone didn’t know, all my books (with the exception of the most recent) are also YT videos. It’s the closest I’ll ever get to an audio book. :yes:

    The End Times Timeline Playlist – (excluding part three, because that’s the Summer Fruit stuff)

    The Judgment of the Summer Fruit

    Psalm 83 & Isaiah 17

    While I don’t have a video for the most recent paper/book, I do have a video titled In Defense of the Pre-Trib Rapture. It’s not exactly the same, but it hits most of the high points.

    Romans1:16 For I am not ashamed of the gospel of Christ: for it is the power of God unto salvation to every one that believeth; to the Jew first, and also to the Greek. 17 For therein is the righteousness of God revealed from faith to faith: as it is written, The just shall live by faith.
    #130082
    Regina
    Regina
    Participant

    just relistened about summer fruit…and about the death of a lamb to provide covering for Adam and Eve.
    Jesus is the first and the last lamb of God who takes away the sin of the world—
    Really hopeful that the time of crowning Jesus as King of Israel and over all the earth will be Nisan, which would make seven years earlier Nisan. which would mean we would be with Him during a springtime.
    Come Lord, can it be this year? :rose:

    Judah, you are he whom your brothers shall praise: your hand shall be in the neck of your enemies; your father's children shall bow down before you. Judah is a lion's whelp: from the prey, my son, you are gone up: he stooped down, he couched as a lion, and as an old lion; who shall rouse him up? The scepter shall not depart from Judah, nor a lawgiver from between his feet, until Shiloh come; and to him shall the gathering of the people be. Gen 49

    #130274
    Heather R
    Heather R
    Participant

    Romans1:16 For I am not ashamed of the gospel of Christ: for it is the power of God unto salvation to every one that believeth; to the Jew first, and also to the Greek. 17 For therein is the righteousness of God revealed from faith to faith: as it is written, The just shall live by faith.
    #130451
    Heather R
    Heather R
    Participant

    Part Two – a recap of Chapters 1-4, then going through Chapters 5-7

    Romans1:16 For I am not ashamed of the gospel of Christ: for it is the power of God unto salvation to every one that believeth; to the Jew first, and also to the Greek. 17 For therein is the righteousness of God revealed from faith to faith: as it is written, The just shall live by faith.
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