A Clue by God Indicating an April Rapture?

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    Terry
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    This is the other thing, or one of the other things I wanted to share with you all.

    In the Bible, in the book of Revelation, the Church is only mentioned in the first three chapters, and the Church is last mentioned in the 22nd and last verse of chapter 3.
    And beginning in Revelation chapter 4 with the “come up hither”, (the Rapture taking place), the Church is not mentioned anymore throughout the rest of the Bible.

    I believe why the Church is only mentioned in these first three chapters is because this may be a clue from God indicating that the Church will be in the world for the completion of three months into 2017, or 2018, and the “come up hither” in Revelation 4 indicating that the Rapture will occur in the fourth month of April.

    I’ve believed this for many years, of this indicating that the Rapture might occur in the fourth month of April, of some year.

    And do I dare say that I believe the 22nd and last verse of Revelation chapter 3 in which the Church is last mentioned throughout the Bible, might possibly represent April 22nd, the last day the Church is in the world, the very day it might be taken out of the world, at the Rapture.
    April 22nd being the seventh day from Easter in 2017. Christ the firstfruits, afterward they that are Christ’s at his coming. Would seem to indicate that we who are Christ’s would be gathered shortly after Firstfruits (Easter).

    I believe Revelation 22, the very last chapter in the Bible, also represents April 22nd, the last day the Church might be in the world, the very day it might be taken out of the world, at the Rapture. April 22nd is a sabbath day, a day of rest, it’s also Earth Day.

    If I’m to guess at any other days in April that the Rapture might occur on, I would say April 18th, it’s the eighth and last day of Passover, it’s also the third day from Easter, a Tuesday, and according to ancient jewish tradition regarding the marriage ceremony, the bridegroom would always come for his bride on a Tuesday.

    And my last Rapture date guess for the month of April, is April 25fth. I say April 25fth because I believe Matthew 25 being a chapter at least up to verse 13, having to do with the ten virgins, who went forth to meet the bridegroom, may represent April 25fth, a possible day that the bridegroom Jesus might come for his bride (the Church), (US). And April 25fth is a Tuesday.

    In Hebrews 10:25, at the very end of this verse, it says: “as ye see the day approaching”. I believe this 25fth verse represents April 25fth, the day we see approaching, which might be the day of the Rapture.

    Surely the Lord God does nothing, unless he reveals his secret to his servants the prophets.

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    Savedat33
    Savedat33
    Participant

    I’m all for an April Rapture! Especially on the 14th, simply because that would be the best birthday present ever!!

    #129524

    sonya b1974
    Participant

    April of this year sounds good to me!:)

    #129527
    Tender Reed
    Tender Reed
    Participant

    Works for me, and is on my calendar!

    TR


    #129528

    sonya b1974
    Participant

    Works for me, and is on my calendar!

    You wrote down on your calendar, Jesus will be here? 🙂 Or coming?

    #129533

    Mike Mc
    Participant

    I’m all for an April Rapture!

    So am I…

    By the way if we go past this time. I’m all in for June 1-4…

    Tell me if this Translation is on target… epifaneia

    G2015
    ἐπιφάνεια
    epiphaneia
    ep-if-an’-i-ah
    From G2016; a manifestation, that is, (specifically) the advent of Christ (past or future): – appearing, brightness.
    Total KJV occurrences: 6

    One just has to know a little Greek or go the extra step to decipher the terms in Greek for a proper context, perspective and interpretation. The Apostle Paul in this 1 passage basically lines-up the chronological order of the Last Days events but in pairs and in reverse order. The passage states the following order.

    1. Concerning the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ [Parousia] and
    2. our being gathered [Ephipaneia] to him,
    3. the Day of the Lord [The Tribulation] has already come.
    4. for that Day will not come until the rebellion [Retreat or ‘Fall-back’]

    The passage is thus rendered in its chronological order with the following.

    4. for that Day will not come until the rebellion [Retreat or ‘Fall-back’]
    2. our being gathered [Ephipaneia] to him
    3. the Day of the Lord [The Tribulation] has already come.
    1. Concerning the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ [Parousia] and

    2Ti 4:8  Henceforth there is laid up for me a crown of righteousness, which the Lord, the righteous judge, shall give me at that day: and not to me only, but unto all them also that love his appearing.

    On THAT DAY….!
    Pentecost 2017 falls on Sunday, June 4, 2017

    Upcoming Dates
    Year Date
    2017 Sunday, June 4

    Pentecost is a Christian celebration which occurs fifty days after the Christian celebration of Easter.

    The Torah Calendar has it on…
    Month 3

    1-Jun, 2017 C.E.
    sundown to
    2-Jun, 2017 C.E.
    sundown

    Shavuot

    Day of Pentecost, Spirit And Truth

    Bikkurim

    First Fruits

     

    The passage clearly delineates that the ‘gathering together’ first has to occur and then the appearing of Jesus occurs as a conclusion. The initial ‘gathering’ event is the Rapture and the advent of Jesus at this event is only for the Believers and is called the Epiphaneia. The meaning of this word is that of ‘a sudden manifestation; an appearance especially of a divine being’. This is when Jesus appears and only to the Bride of Christ as that is the purpose for the Rapture, to withdrawal or retrieve His invested Wife, His ‘Eve’ for which the work of the Holy Spirit ‘sealed’ such souls. The Rapture, to coincide with the Epiphaneia will be the cause for the withdrawal of the Holy Spirit’s deposit and investment within the Bride of Christ done only within the Pentecostal Age, etc.

    http://nebula.wsimg.com/12da1301284f265c4610d84bdca070cc?AccessKeyId=D40106E1331C24ABD7C3&disposition=0&alloworigin=1

    ~

    #129539
    Savedat33
    Savedat33
    Participant

    Hmm, I’m not good with Greek, it’s all Greek to me but I know that Pentecost is a Jewish celebration and the Lord fulfilled it on (well) Pentecost.

    The first 120 in the uppper room were all Jews and from that upper room, the church was “born”.

    The Feasts are Gods appointed times with the nation of Israel, He says as much in His word.

    And if we are discussing 2 Thessalonians .

    “Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition;”

    The word for “falling away” is apostasia… let’s break that word down in context:

    “646 apostasía (from 868 /aphístēmi, “leave, depart,” which is derived from 575 /apó, “away from” and 2476 /histémi, “stand”) – properly, departure (implying desertion); apostasy – literally, “a leaving, from a previous standing”

    http://biblehub.com/greek/646.htm

    The word “stasis” meaning fixed or unmoving is derived from this word: histémi. “Apo” means away from… so moving away from a fixed position is essentially how this word can be translated.

    Now, we know the Church is NOT HERE when the Anti-Christ is revealed. Don’t believe me? Check out Revelation 6, he is the guy on the white horse who is given a bow. Notice that is after Chapter 4 with an open door (Jesus) and voice that says “Come up hither”.

    There are several articles that explain how this scripture has been misinterpreted. Paul is clearly talking about the Church (which is on earth, ergo, a fixed position) departing or being “properly removed”.

    The antichrist can’t show up until the Church is gone because the “Restrainer” God’s Holy Spirit is the one holding back all the evil of this world and He is currently indwelling us (the Church) and will continue to do so until we are removed and then! the man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition, the antichrist.

    Hope that helps, if you have more questions, Heather is way more knowledgeable on this subject. :rose:

    #129552
    Heather R
    Heather R
    Participant

    The falling away is specific, and it’s a noun. And yes, movement away from a fixed place (the earth). All 7 or 8 translations of the Bible pre-1611, which is when the Kjv was translated, all record it as the departing or departure. The Kjv changed it because of the Protestant Reformation and people leaving the Catholic Church and the Catholic faith. That’s not what I Thess 2:3 intended at all. I’ll be going through this in what I’m currently writing, but at it’s core, the departure, or falling away, is Rev 4:1 and the man of sin being revealed is sometime between Rev 4:1 and 6:1, because 6:1 is the confirmation of Daniel 9:27 which starts the 70th Week.

    Romans1:16 For I am not ashamed of the gospel of Christ: for it is the power of God unto salvation to every one that believeth; to the Jew first, and also to the Greek. 17 For therein is the righteousness of God revealed from faith to faith: as it is written, The just shall live by faith.
    #129553

    Watchman35
    Participant

    Totally agree with both Savedat33 and Heather regarding the “falling away” of 2nd Thessalonians 2 being a definite article reference to a physical departure (“the” departure…aka the harpazo). This makes the most sense by far when viewed in the context of both 1st and 2nd Thessalonians. Also agree with Savedat33 that the Restrainer is the Holy Spirit in us and it is His removal from indwelling the members of the Body of Christ at the time of the rapture that removes the restraining power that WE, as born-again, Spirit-indwelt believers, bring to this earth today. Rapture first, at which time the Restrainer is also removed, followed by the revelation of the Antichrist leading into Daniel’s 70th week. Sooooooooo thankful to the Lord that we are riding at the front-end of this apocalyptic “train” and not on the caboose!!!

    John 14:1-3 “Let not your heart be troubled; you believe in God, believe also in Me. In My Father’s house are many mansions; if it were not so, I would have told you. I go to prepare a place for you. And if I go and prepare a place for you, I will come again and receive you to Myself; that where I am, there you may be also."

    #129554

    Mike Mc
    Participant

    The Kjv changed it because of the Protestant Reformation and people leaving the Catholic Church and the Catholic faith. That’s not what I Thess 2:3 intended at all.

    Boy Howdy, This could go in so many directions, but for another day not to derail this thread.

    I’ll be going through this in what I’m currently writing, but at it’s core, the departure, or falling away, is Rev 4:1 and the man of sin being revealed is sometime between Rev 4:1 and 6:1, because 6:1 is the confirmation of Daniel 9:27 which starts the 70th Week.

    Can’t wait to see this one, If we’re still here. and I fully agree that Revelation 4:1 is our departure.

    And beginning in Revelation chapter 4 with the “come up hither”, (the Rapture taking place), the Church is not mentioned anymore throughout the rest of the Bible.
    I believe why the Church is only mentioned in these first three chapters is because this may be a clue from God indicating that the Church will be in the world for the completion of three months into 2017, or 2018, and the “come up hither” in Revelation 4 indicating that the Rapture will occur in the fourth month of April

    Makes Perfect scene to me.

    Now, we know the Church is NOT HERE when the Anti-Christ is revealed. Don’t believe me? Check out Revelation 6, he is the guy on the white horse who is given a bow. Notice that is after Chapter 4 with an open door (Jesus) and voice that says “Come up hither”.
    There are several articles that explain how this scripture has been misinterpreted. Paul is clearly talking about the Church (which is on earth, ergo, a fixed position) departing or being “properly removed”.
    The antichrist can’t show up until the Church is gone because the “Restrainer” God’s Holy Spirit is the one holding back all the evil of this world and He is currently indwelling us (the Church) and will continue to do so until we are removed and then! the man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition, the antichrist.

    This couldn’t have been put any clearer… Plain, simply and to the Point.

    Sooooooooo thankful to the Lord that we are riding at the front-end of this apocalyptic “train” and not on the caboose!!!

    The one thing I see here is and has been said in other posts, is, Once Saved, we start to Grow, and we see these things and Study like the Bereans have to see if they are true.

    I can sense, by the Holy Spirit in me, and you, that everyone here is all on the same exact page, I have no doubts… :whistle:

    I said this just shooting from the hip…
    Pentecost is a Christian celebration which occurs fifty days after the Christian celebration of Easter

    There is a much deeper meaning to this as I know , you all know this, and it’s not just a Christian thing, this is the reason the Jews still today are doing the things they are like building a Temple and getting a Red Heifer. As Heather wrote in one of her books, Jesus was the Fulfillment of the Law, He Finished it at the Cross. Found only in the Gospel of John, the Greek word translated “it is finished” is tetelestai, He said it was “paid in full.”
    We all know that God has Appointed times we know this from reading His Word, we also know His Word is Perfect as He is Perfect…. The moedim: the appointed times of God. The Most High has a schedule of appointments with His people and He Plans on keeping it to the Jot and Tittle… Jesus also has and Appointment with His Church Bride, The Ekklesia…

    Mat 5:17  Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil. 
    Mat 5:18  For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled. 
    Mat 5:19  Whosoever therefore shall break one of these least commandments, and shall teach men so, he shall be called the least in the kingdom of heaven: but whosoever shall do and teach them, the same shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven. 
    Mat 5:20  For I say unto you, That except your righteousness shall exceed the righteousness of the scribes and Pharisees, ye shall in no case enter into the kingdom of heaven. 

    Passover – First Fruits
    Shavuot – Feast of Weeks – Pentecost
    Jesus being our Passover Lamb…

    We are in a very High Watch time once again Saints… This could be our moedim…

    Hymnal Number 322
    Text: Robert Lowry, 1826-1899
    Music: Robert Lowry, 1826-1899

    Low in the grave He lay—
    Jesus my Savior!
    Waiting the coming day—
    Jesus my Lord!
    Up from the grave He arose,
    With a mighty triumph o’er His foes
    He arose a Victor from the dark domain,
    And He lives forever with His saints to reign.
    He arose! He arose!
    Hallelujah! Christ arose!

    Vainly they watch His bed—
    Jesus, my Savior!
    Vainly they seal the dead—
    Jesus my Lord!

    Death cannot keep his prey—
    Jesus, my Savior!
    He tore the bars away—
    Jesus my Lord!

    Indeed He arose from the grave.

    ~

    #129809

    Terry
    Participant

    Bump!

    #129811
    Tender Reed
    Tender Reed
    Participant

    He’s been on my calendar since 1969! Boy is He late!

    TR


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